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Rate Their Chances - Smash Ultimate Edition! Day 672: Five Most Likely First and Third Parties for Smash 6, and Final Goodbyes

RealPokeFan11

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Katalina:
Chance: Abstain

Never heard of her/him. Honestly couldn't care less.
Want: Abstain
Never played the game he/she is from.
Never even payed the game in the first place.

Predict: Tails:
47%


Nominations: My boi!!
Freddi Fish and her friend Luther (Freddi Fish) x5
Uhhh... Katalina is a woman, and Freddi Fish is a dude...
 
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and Freddi Fish is a dude...
This site tells me Freddi Fish is a woman http://humongous.wikia.com/wiki/Freddi_Fish
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Constantly referring to her as she, she even once said in a game to some who thought she was a girl "Actually, I'm a girl". Dumb name and I can see why you though Freddi Fish was a boy


EDIT: I said "you thought Freddi Fish was a girl", when I meant "you thought freddi fish was a boy"
 
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RealPokeFan11

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Huh. Never knew that. Last time I played the game was when I was four years old on my Windows XP desktop. Humongous probably could've chosen a different name to prevent confusion.

Thx for the heads up.
 
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RileyXY1

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Katalina

Chance: 0%
She's a Japan-only, mobile gacha character. Also, no one wants her. Not even in Japan, where she's considered a troll pick like Steve is over here.

Want: 0%
She's not that interesting. We've got many characters like her already in the game.

Nominate: Amy Rose x5
 

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Gatcha****
Chance: 0%
The one leak that was in her favour turned out to be bogus. That and a character from a JP exclusive mobile game would not sell relatively well and bring hype among the Smash community.


Want: 0%
I have absolutely no interest in anything gatcha, even if I did I wouldn't be able to play her game anyway. Also I've heard her franchise has official body pillows, some of them featuring under age characters. I don't want degeneracy like that anywhere near Smash, let alone pay for it.

Tails: 15.82%
Hollow Knight x5
 
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GoodGrief741

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Katalina

Double zeroes

For chance, literally the only thing she had going for her is that Hitagi leaked her. Then Hitagi backpedaled. The fact that we all believed she had a chance is truly a testament to pessimism for DLC post Incineroar and Piranha Plant. Let’s look at her credentials. She’s a character from a Japanese only mobile game. Is she the most popular? I dunno, but she certainly isn’t the protagonist, and that alone would mean her chances aren’t great (then again, anything can change).

As for want, Hell will freeze over before I accept a character from a gacha mobile game in Smash. Especially one as obscure and inconsequential as this one. I would take her over Steve, but not much else.

Nominations: Mach Rider x5
 

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Katalina

Chance: 15%
I wouldn't eliminate the chances of her becoming a surprise third party pick. But her being from a not so well known gacha game hurts her chances like a lot.

Want: 55%
Although she isn't a top tier pick of mine. I am very curious to how she would work in Smash and I like her design quite a lot. It is pretty cool to see a Gacha rep in Smash
 

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Katalina

Chance: 0.01%

-That rumor of her ended up being bull.
-She's a Japanese exclusive character right now with unfamiliarity in the west. Sakurai has been avoiding those kind of characters after Lucas. It was the reason Takamaru and Ayumi were written off.

Want: 0%

-It's that that I don't want a mobile character.
-It's just that I'd vastly prefer Vaseraga who's easily the best Granblue character IMO.

Tails Prediction: 5.64%

Nominate DLC Story Expansion x5
 
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Sid-cada

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Katalina

Chance - 0% - The only reason anyone brought her up was a leakier said that she might be in. A leakier who would latter go back on that statement. Otherwise, as a Japanese only character from a mobile-exclusive series, we wouldn't normally give her the time of day.

Want - 0% - A character that simply feels way too random to be deserving. I'd at least like a character from a Nintendo Mobile game if we had to have one.


Prediction

Tails - 3.45% - I guess it's possible...


Nominations

Dark Matter X5
 

GoodGrief741

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The holidays are over, and as such extra nominations are also over. But you guys certainly made use of them.

It is now time for you to meet your new top 7. It consists of Arle Nadja, Rhythm Girl, All DLC will be third-party, Hollow Knight, Nero Claudius, Grovyle, and a tie between Mach Rider and Stages outside Fighter Pass.

Arle Nadja x365
Rhythm Girl x325
Concept: All DLC will be third-party x320
Hollow Knight x272
Nero Claudius (Fate) x260
Grovyle (Pokémon Mystery Dungeon) x243
Mach Rider x235
Concept: Stages outside Fighter Pass x235


Over 200

Reimu Hakurei x230
Reaper (Overwatch) x221
Concept: Gen 8 Pokemon x216
Concept: More DLC x215

200 - 151


Concept: SNK rep x165
Sephiroth x155

150 - 101

Kat & Ana x130
Concept: No fan favorite/highly requested characters x130
Professor Hector x128
Dark Matter x125
Ravio x125
Andy (Advance Wars) x120
Ryota Hayami x120
Dante x115
Arthas Menethil (Warcraft) x110
Amy Rose x110
Brash the Bear x110
Sly Cooper x110
Concept: Boss Rush x110
Shy Guy x110
Bonkers (Kirby) x110
Ezio Auditore da Firenze x110
Magikarp x109
Q*Bert x106
Impa x101
Maxwell (Scribblenauts) x101
Porky Minch x101

100 - 51


Tracer x100
Concept: 100 characters (counting Echo Fighters and Miis/Pokémon Trainer as 3) x100
Monster Hunter x100
Poochy x100
Cranky Kong x100
Vaati x100
Concept: World of Light expansion x100
Nathan Drake x100
Concept: Microsoft Rep x100
Aloy x100
Protector (Etrian Odyssey) x100
Concept: Undertale rep x100
Concept: Third-party character from unrepped Company x95
Lora (Xenoblade) x90
Boss: Kracko x85
Concept: Style Savvy rep x75
Hat Kid x65
9-Volt x64
Spyro x52

50 - 25


Creeper x42
Frisk x40
Papyrus x39
Concept: Assist Trophy becomes Fighter x30
Ninten x27
Thrall (Warcraft) x25
Cooking Mama x25

Under 25

Boss: Perfect Chaos x20
Kamek x20
Earthworm Jim x20
Freddi Fish and Luther (Freddi Fish) x20
Hector (Fire Emblem) x15
Pyra & Mythra (sans Rex) x15
Concept: Dragalia Lost rep x10
Decidueye x10
Concept: Bethesda rep x10
Frog (Chrono Trigger) x10
Amaterasu x10
Beat (Jet Set Radio) x10
Tora and Poppi x10
Concept: Spectator Emotes x10
Concept: Spirits aren’t disconfirmations x10
Blacephalon x5
Zhao Yun (Dynasty Warriors) x5
Monokuma x5
Concept: Another joke character x5
Neptune x5
Concept: Crazi Taxi rep x5
Oliver (Ni No Kuni) x5
Ryu Hayabusa x5
Concept: Free updates (Splatoon-style) x5
Courier (Fallout) x5
Scorpion x5
Concept: Another literally who Level-5 Character who's popular in Japan, like Achilles or Mark Evans x5
Starman (Pro Wrestling) x5
Lizalfos x4
Toon Zelda x3
Boss: Sans x2
Urbosa x1
Stahl x1
[Rerate] Steve? x1

Sephiroth wings it past 150 noms.

Bonkers, Porky Minch and Ezio Auditore da Firenze cross 100 noms.
 

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I don't have anything special to say about Katalina; so I prefer to abstain this time xD

_____

Predictions:

Tails: 4.5%

Nominations:

Reimu Hakurei x5
 
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3DSNinja

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Gacha to look at this leak
CHance:0%: Hitagi backpedaled. and unless 'unexpected ' means "Japanese gacha game" then no.
Want:0%: and thank goodness. another anime sword fighter is the exact opposite of what I want. Why should we get her over Geno or Banjo or Bandana Dee or Hollow Knight. No.
Nominations: Shy Guy x5
 
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The holidays are over, and as such extra nominations are also over. But you guys certainly made use of them.

It is now time for you to meet your new top 7. It consists of Arle Nadja, Rhythm Girl, All DLC will be third-party, Hollow Knight, Nero Claudius, Grovyle, and a tie between Mach Rider and Stages outside Fighter Pass.

Arle Nadja x365
Rhythm Girl x325
Concept: All DLC will be third-party x320
Hollow Knight x272
Nero Claudius (Fate) x260
Grovyle (Pokémon Mystery Dungeon) x243
Mach Rider x235
Concept: Stages outside Fighter Pass x235


Over 200

Reimu Hakurei x230
Reaper (Overwatch) x221
Concept: Gen 8 Pokemon x216
Concept: More DLC x215

200 - 151


Concept: SNK rep x165
Sephiroth x155

150 - 101

Kat & Ana x130
Concept: No fan favorite/highly requested characters x130
Professor Hector x128
Dark Matter x125
Ravio x125
Andy (Advance Wars) x120
Ryota Hayami x120
Dante x115
Arthas Menethil (Warcraft) x110
Amy Rose x110
Brash the Bear x110
Sly Cooper x110
Concept: Boss Rush x110
Shy Guy x110
Bonkers (Kirby) x110
Ezio Auditore da Firenze x110
Magikarp x109
Q*Bert x106
Impa x101
Maxwell (Scribblenauts) x101
Porky Minch x101

100 - 51


Tracer x100
Concept: 100 characters (counting Echo Fighters and Miis/Pokémon Trainer as 3) x100
Monster Hunter x100
Poochy x100
Cranky Kong x100
Vaati x100
Concept: World of Light expansion x100
Nathan Drake x100
Concept: Microsoft Rep x100
Aloy x100
Protector (Etrian Odyssey) x100
Concept: Undertale rep x100
Concept: Third-party character from unrepped Company x95
Lora (Xenoblade) x90
Boss: Kracko x85
Concept: Style Savvy rep x75
Hat Kid x65
9-Volt x64
Spyro x52

50 - 25


Creeper x42
Frisk x40
Papyrus x39
Concept: Assist Trophy becomes Fighter x30
Ninten x27
Thrall (Warcraft) x25
Cooking Mama x25

Under 25

Boss: Perfect Chaos x20
Kamek x20
Earthworm Jim x20
Freddi Fish and Luther (Freddi Fish) x20
Hector (Fire Emblem) x15
Pyra & Mythra (sans Rex) x15
Concept: Dragalia Lost rep x10
Decidueye x10
Concept: Bethesda rep x10
Frog (Chrono Trigger) x10
Amaterasu x10
Beat (Jet Set Radio) x10
Tora and Poppi x10
Concept: Spectator Emotes x10
Concept: Spirits aren’t disconfirmations x10
Blacephalon x5
Zhao Yun (Dynasty Warriors) x5
Monokuma x5
Concept: Another joke character x5
Neptune x5
Concept: Crazi Taxi rep x5
Oliver (Ni No Kuni) x5
Ryu Hayabusa x5
Concept: Free updates (Splatoon-style) x5
Courier (Fallout) x5
Scorpion x5
Concept: Another literally who Level-5 Character who's popular in Japan, like Achilles or Mark Evans x5
Starman (Pro Wrestling) x5
Lizalfos x4
Toon Zelda x3
Boss: Sans x2
Urbosa x1
Stahl x1
[Rerate] Steve? x1

Sephiroth wings it past 150 noms.

Bonkers, Porky Minch and Ezio Auditore da Firenze cross 100 noms.
When are characters going to get locked in the schedule? This has probably been asked before but I didn't see it.
 
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Chance :
To start, I should probably address Hitagi. The main reason Katalina gained prominece within speculation was because Hitagi, a leaker who Vergeben trusted and communicated with, said she was planned for DLC. Hitagi’s track-record isn’t very large, and he later claimed that this was misinfo and that Katalina wasn’t being planned, so we can’t use this as evidence. With that out of the way, let’s look at Kat from Granblue Rush proper. Katalina is an important character in the mobile game Granblue Fantasy, which has become very popular within Japan. Katalina herself is a very popular character. She has 4 variations within the game, and is the protagonist of an upcoming Granblue hack-n-slash by Platinum Games. It can’t be understated how big Granblue is. Despite only releasing in 2014, it was one of the first F2P gacha games to really make it big and inspired various other games in the genre such as the also mega-popular Fate GO. The game as of October 2018 has crossed 22 million downloads, all while being exclusive to Japan. The fact that Granblue is getting a PS4 hack-n-slash spin-off by Platinum should alone tell you that the game’s big. Nintendo also owns 5% stock in Cygames, the developers of Granblue, and has worked with the company to make Dragalia Lost, so the connections are there and licensing should be easy. With Nintendo aiming to draw people in with DLC, Katalina could make sense as an inclusion from a game that is undeniably huge in Japan, and could represent the ever-growing mobile sector of gaming. However, these are where Katalina’s drawbacks come in. Granblue as previously mentioned is a Japan-exclusive game, and thus Katalina would be a very strange inclusion if Nintendo is aiming for world-wide appeal with DLC, as she’s one of the few characters I think you can reasonably call a “literally who” when reffering to the West. Even Persona 5 managed to get over 2 million copies sold in the West, so worldwide appeal could still matter. Another problem is that in a press-release regarding Joker, SMT’s storied history with Nintendo was mentioned, showing that gaming history is still something considered for third parties. Granblue only began as a series in 2014, and is still very young, too young to have a super substantial impact on gaming or it’s history. While Bayonetta had the same issue, Granblue and Kat to my knowledge have yet to make an appearance on a Nintendo console yet. Bayonetta also got in due to popularity overseas, so worldwide popularity is clearly something considered. Nintendo might also instead favour a character from Dragalia Lost, another Cygames project which has been released worldwide and is also finding success.
Unless Nintendo really wants to promote Granblue overseas due to their Cygames connection, I can’t see Katalina really getting in. She’s just way too obscure overseas, and I think Nintendo would realise that, even if she has a home-country advantage.
5%

Want :
I really do not like Gacha games at all. They’re in my eyes a predatory system that do nothing good for the industry, so I would definitely not be super fond of Katalina’s inclusion. However, others who have played Granblue have said that it’s one of the les micro transactions reliant gacha games, being laxer with its currency and more generous, which very slightly helps with this problem. Katalina also has the potential for a really cool ice-based moveset, which we don’t have in smash apart from the Ice-Clombers. Ultimately though, I just hate Gacha games with micro transactions too much for me to really appreciate Katalina, especially compared to the other third-parties.
5%

Noms: Ezio Auditore X5.
 

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ProfPeanut

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New year, new chance score calculations, right?

Katalina

Chance: 0.1%
Sakurai picking a Japan-only title? In this day and age?

Granblue's really popular there, but that's about all you can say about it, and you can say the same thing about Fate and Artoria Pendragon. Her only apparent weapons are a sword and unapparent ice powers, and she's not even the character that people associate Granblue with (if they associate anyone at all.)

There's half a dozen third-party sword characters in line, so the only way I can see her getting in is if Nintendo railroads the process for the sake of a company they don't even have majority shares in.

Want: 0.1%
As far as getting a mobile rep goes, this is a pretty bad choice. Heck, I can't think of any category where she's the most ideal candidate, and I doubt she's even the best Granblue character one could go for.


Predictions:
Tails: 9%

Nominations
Hat Kid x5
 

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This'll be an Abstain for me, since I don't know enough to make a valid judgement. And I now know better than to provide a Want score if I'm not providing a chance one.

Nominations: Reimu x5
 

GoodGrief741

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Chance :
To start, I should probably address Hitagi. The main reason Katalina gained prominece within speculation was because Hitagi, a leaker who Vergeben trusted and communicated with, said she was planned for DLC. Hitagi’s track-record isn’t very large, and he later claimed that this was misinfo and that Katalina wasn’t being planned, so we can’t use this as evidence. With that out of the way, let’s look at Kat from Granblue Rush proper. Katalina is an important character in the mobile game Granblue Fantasy, which has become very popular within Japan. Katalina herself is a very popular character. She has 4 variations within the game, and is the protagonist of an upcoming Granblue hack-n-slash by Platinum Games. It can’t be understated how big Granblue is. Despite only releasing in 2014, it was one of the first F2P gacha games to really make it big and inspired various other games in the genre such as the also mega-popular Fate GO. The game as of October 2018 has crossed 22 million downloads, all while being exclusive to Japan. The fact that Granblue is getting a PS4 hack-n-slash spin-off by Platinum should alone tell you that the game’s big. Nintendo also owns 5% stock in Cygames, the developers of Granblue, and has worked with the company to make Dragalia Lost, so the connections are there and licensing should be easy. With Nintendo aiming to draw people in with DLC, Katalina could make sense as an inclusion from a game that is undeniably huge in Japan, and could represent the ever-growing mobile sector of gaming. However, these are where Katalina’s drawbacks come in. Granblue as previously mentioned is a Japan-exclusive game, and thus Katalina would be a very strange inclusion if Nintendo is aiming for world-wide appeal with DLC, as she’s one of the few characters I think you can reasonably call a “literally who” when reffering to the West. Even Persona 5 managed to get over 2 million copies sold in the West, so worldwide appeal could still matter. Another problem is that in a press-release regarding Joker, SMT’s storied history with Nintendo was mentioned, showing that gaming history is still something considered for third parties. Granblue only began as a series in 2014, and is still very young, too young to have a super substantial impact on gaming or it’s history. While Bayonetta had the same issue, Granblue and Kat to my knowledge have yet to make an appearance on a Nintendo console yet. Bayonetta also got in due to popularity overseas, so worldwide popularity is clearly something considered. Nintendo might also instead favour a character from Dragalia Lost, another Cygames project which has been released worldwide and is also finding success.
Unless Nintendo really wants to promote Granblue overseas due to their Cygames connection, I can’t see Katalina really getting in. She’s just way too obscure overseas, and I think Nintendo would realise that, even if she has a home-country advantage.
5%

Want :
I really do not like Gacha games at all. They’re in my eyes a predatory system that do nothing good for the industry, so I would definitely not be super fond of Katalina’s inclusion. However, others who have played Granblue have said that it’s one of the les micro transactions reliant gacha games, being laxer with its currency and more generous, which very slightly helps with this problem. Katalina also has the potential for a really cool ice-based moveset, which we don’t have in smash apart from the Ice-Clombers. Ultimately though, I just hate Gacha games with micro transactions too much for me to really appreciate Katalina, especially compared to the other third-parties.
5%

Noms: Ezio Auditore X5.
Gotta say, this is the first time I’ve seen a picture of Katalina, and somehow her design still disappointed me.

As for ‘I swear my gacha is not as bad as other gachas’, every single person I’ve known who plays a gacha has always claimed that their gacha is the only good one. I don’t stake too much on such claims (and if ‘the lesser of evils’ is the argument you have to go to then you’re not defending something great).
 

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Katalina;

Chance: 10%. Being Japanese-only isn't enough of a deterrent alone. Especially if they want it in the West. It also helps that this is a very strong-going Gacha game that actually removes the microtransactions and has constantly gotten more good games, so it's pretty much made a mark on Japanese Gaming history. Thus, the chance of it is pretty low, but not that impossible.

Want: Hard to say. She looks pretty neat and I like the character designs. I never had a Gacha game, but I might try it if it comes overseas due to being pretty much free. I do similar games that are mostly rng to get items, so it sounds fun. 20%, maybe? Enough interesting, but not super interested by any means.

I forgot my noms;

Brian(Quest 64) x 5. Mainly cause I want to honestly see him in the game(after his game/franchise is revived), and though I know he'll be a 0% chance by almost everyone(including me), I think he'd bring a ton of unique gameplay to the table.
 
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Gotta say, this is the first time I’ve seen a picture of Katalina, and somehow her design still disappointed me.

As for ‘I swear my gacha is not as bad as other gachas’, every single person I’ve known who plays a gacha has always claimed that their gacha is the only good one. I don’t stake too much on such claims (and if ‘the lesser of evils’ is the argument you have to go to then you’re not defending something great).
I'm actually surprised for how her armor looks; I think looks quite pretty without looking obviously sexualized xD.
 

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HITAGAY's Nonsensical Bullcrap.
Chance: 0%
Want: 1%

This character was all the talk back when Hitagay was considered credible by Vergayben. Now it's 2019, and he was proven to be utter nonsense. Shortly after he "leaked" Katalina, he immediately backpedaled and said "she was false information". Makes sense considering she's from an obscure, third party, Japanese exclusive mobile game.
So, are we still using gay as an insult in this day and age?
 

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I’m surprised by how sexualized it feels to me. That navel jewel might be the culprit.
Well; that is the reason I said obviously sexualized instead of just sexualized; I also noticed the navel jewel; which is weird, but hey, it's a more original way of doing appealing designs hahahaha.
 

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So, are we still using gay as an insult in this day and age?
For the record, it's being looked into. Feedback isn't easy when the days are busy.

That said, until then, let the mods handle it. We'll do what's needed. I can safely say that I think it's extremely inappropriate... but I enforce the rules here, not my personal feelings alone.
 

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Katalina
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1%
So, the reason she's even in the conversation was because of Hitagi's misinfo. I remember pretty clearly the day that came out and the entire general thread acted like the sky was falling and everything was awful, but that's just another day at the office for the Smash fandom I've learned. Of course, there's also the fact that Nintendo owns a small part of CyGames and that Granblue is massive, complete with Uematsu music and tons of updates and a fighting game and RPG both on the way. Still, it's not happening. No international appeal, no Nintendo connection, only the remotest chance of this happening.

Want: 5%
During the days of the possible leak I went to my friend who loves Granblue and asked about her. She's his favorite. He sometimes sends me Granblue stuff now and it seems like a fun game with a nice art style and good music. Katalina herself actually seems like a really funny and cute character, and she uses ice magic and during one story event gets magically transformed into a tank called Katapillar. She seems like a thoroughly enjoyable character and the only reason she gets so much vitriol is because no one has actually played Granblue and something something gacha games are exploitative and blah blah blah my slots. If she was from an actual Nintendo game no one would be batting an eye.

That said, it's not like I want her in. I don't play Granblue. I don't have any connection to the character outside of what my friend says. I absolutely think she'd be fun to use and I think she's cute, but if I want to play as her in a videogame I'll go play that Platinum game starring her when it comes out, or the Granblue fighter. It's not happening and I don't want it to happen. It wouldn't be the worst thing in the world by a long shot but it would be a letdown.

Nominations: Style Savvy Rep x5
 
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Katalina

Chance: 0 - Hitagi backed off of her, and since she was an oddball choice to begin with I can't see this happening. Too much of a literal who to be DLC from the start, and since it seems like we're getting more big names in this round of DLC I think it's safe to say we won't have her joining the roster in smash ultimate

Abstaining on want because I had no idea who this was before Hitagi.

noms
Gen 8 Pokemon x5
 

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Cell Phone Character
Chance: 0.01%
The only reason we're talking about her is because some fake leaker said she was in, and even he changed his mind two weeks later. So with that out of the way, no, she won't be in. I know there have been some weird character choices here and there, but I'm confident Nintendo and the Smash devs have better taste than this.
Want: 0%
I could probably go on for hours on why Katalina shouldn't be in Smash, but I'll try to keep this short. Cell phone characters do not belong in Smash, especially nin-Nintendo ones. Katalina would be one of the worst additions to Smash ever. Worse than any Fire Emblem character could ever hope to be.

Tails prediction: 15%
Noms: Stages outside Fighter Pass x5
 

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Well something big may have just been leaked and its already been making rounds online. I thought I'd be the first to mention it here and hide it in spoiler tags just to warn anyone else who wants to speculate while avoiding leaks. Read at your own risk:

Three file names for characters have apparently been found that contain data like walk speed, character weight, etc.
One is for piranha plant, one is for "Jack" which is assumed to be Joker, and the other...
Is for a character nicknamed "Brave." It's unknown exactly who it is so take it as you will. The most common conclusion seems to be that it is...
A Dragon Quest character (either Erdrick or the protaganist from DQVIII) since brave can roughly translate into "hero" which is the name of the main DQ class.

Regardless if it's true or not, I think it'd be best if we either talk about it using spoiler tags or just not talk about it at all in this thread.
 

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Well something big may have just been leaked and its already been making rounds online. I thought I'd be the first to mention it here and hide it in spoiler tags just to warn anyone else who wants to speculate while avoiding leaks. Read at your own risk:

Three file names for characters have apparently been found that contain data like walk speed, character weight, etc.
One is for piranha plant, one is for "Jack" which is assumed to be Joker, and the other...
Is for a character nicknamed "Brave." It's unknown exactly who it is so take it as you will. The most common conclusion seems to be that it is...
A Dragon Quest character (either Erdrick or the protaganist from DQVIII) since brave can roughly translate into "hero" which is the name of the main DQ class.

Regardless if it's true or not, I think it'd be best if we either talk about it using spoiler tags or just not talk about it at all in this thread.
If DQ is getting a character, I'd rather see a different character than Erdrick. He just seems kind of boring to me. I feel like Slime is the perfect fit that would cause a lot more hype, and he's the icon of the series with a lot of moveset potential.

Just a quick update: I apologize for the joke that I made in Katalina's rating. I mean no ill will towards gay people, and no harm was intended with the joke. It was simply meant to poke fun at Hitagi's name because he was a fake leaker that later became old news. It was along the lines of inserting "crap" or something in a username (Example: Piranha Crap), and gay was the word that ended up working the best with Hitagi's name. It was not meant to be taken seriously, and to those who took offense to my joke, I am sorry for my actions and will not do it again.
(Please Read)
 
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Granblue? GranBOO!

Chance: 1%
Alright, Katalina. As many have said before me, the only reason she's really mentioned is because a leaker said she would be in, than did double take, claiming her info was for something else. Since then, most have walked away from the idea of her. Does she have any merits? A few, Cygames has worked with Nintendo in the past, but honestly? They'd choose Dragalia Lost before a Gacha Game only in Japan. What about the character herself? Well...

  • She has Ice powers! That's pretty unique, right?
OK, but so does :ultlucas:, and :ulticeclimbers: are pretty much all ice powers.
  • Well, her design is pretty unique.
All a matter of perspective I'm afraid. Personally, I'd say she fits right in with the Fire Emblem crew.
  • ...She uses a sword?
sigh, :ultcloud::ultcorrin::ultganondorf::ultike::ultlink::ultmarth::ultlucina::ultmetaknight::ultmiifighters::ultroy::ultchrom::ultshulk::ulttoonlink::ultyounglink:

As far as I'm concerned, she doesn't even bring much to the Smash table, aside from representing Cygames, which again, Dragalia Lost could do a lot easier.

Want: 0%
OK, yeah, it's unfair of me to rate her in want when I can't play her game of origin? But honestly, even if I had the ability to, I wouldn't. I'm not a fan of gaming on a phone, omitting the fact it's a gacha. Give me a Game Boy (Advance), DS, 3DS, or the Switch (obviously), I'll play till the cows come home. On a phone? That muddies things a bit. It becomes just another app cluttering your phone IMO. Pass.

Predictions: Tails
Poor Miles Prower, you got screwed buddy. Knuckles became an assist before you, and to make matters worse, your spirit is a support. Not a primary, a support. The arguably 2nd or 3rd most important Sonic character certainly deserves better (arguably because Eggman is still in the mix). 8.67%

Noms:
Professor Hector x3
Q*Bert x2
 

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Oh, I did forgot to do my Nominations, so I updated my post with it. Let me know if I made any error on how it's done.
 
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Katalina

Want: 0%
Don’t care about her, and look bland. Ice powers are nice, but i prefer the FE Heroes protagonist from the second book more.

Chances:0,01
Only Hitagi made her considered, and he scrapped the character in the end. She can join like any other character in gaming, but that’s about it.

Nominees: Eight/Hero from Dragon Quest 8 with 3 points and Adeleine with 2.
 
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Granblue-cheese Cat Lady:

Want: Abstain - I don't care whether she's in or not.

Chance: 10% - Hitagi keeps his info about her in consideration, but he's been off-and-on about it happening and I don't know anymore, especially since he's he only reason people are talking about her. However, Cygames has worked with Nintendo so who knows (being honest here, the newer leaks and rumors would've made me drop her chances to 1-5%, if I didn't try to ignore them for this...).

Nominations:

Creeper x3
Papyrus x2
 
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