Rate Their Chances - Smash Ultimate Edition! Day 672: Five Most Likely First and Third Parties for Smash 6, and Final Goodbyes

[FancySmash]

Frayed Wire joins the fray

Chance: 1%
It's very unlikely we'll be seeing a second Gen 7 Pokemon, especially with Gen 8 on the way. Incineroar has basically proven that new Pokemon characters will most likely be starters in the future, and unfortunately, Ultra Beasts seem to be the gimmick of Gen 7, I don't believe we'll be seeing more Ultra Beasts in Gen 8...

Want: 0%
Not that I really mind in all honesty. My apologies to RealPokeFan11 , but Ultra Beasts weren't really something I enjoyed in Sun and Moon, especially with the terror that some of them have become, namely Pheromosa, Kartana, and Celesteela. To me, they serve as evidence of the ever increasing power creep in Pokemon. Plus, with Pokemon already commanding quite the presence in the roster, I'd prefer the series take a break.

Predictions: Master Chief
TBH, it's either this guy, Banjo, or Steve. Personally, he's not my preferred choice, but it could very well happen. 13.07%

Nominations: I believe we're allowed to give 100 nominations to a character not on the schedule, correct? So, how about...
Q*Bert x100

 

[Artix]

Xurkitree

Chance: 1%
I highly doubt we're getting another Gen 7 Pokemon in this game. Even if we DO get another one, Lycanroc would be the one that seems most likely, not Xurkitree. But even that's unlikely since I believe DLC will most likely focus on unexpecting third-party characters and if we somehow got a first-party character in that slot, then there will be a fierce competition to see who gets in. Besides, Gen 8 will probably come by the time the second or third DLC Fighter is announced, so Nintendo might pick there instead. Still, I'm giving it 1% for the surprise factor.

Want: 50%
I really like Xurkitree's design in the game. Xurkitree is one of my favorite Ultra Beast, I gotta admit because of the design alone. However, in Smash, there are other characters I want before Xurkitree and they're mostly third-parties so...Yeah, maybe next time, I guess.

Master Chief Prediction: 3.15%

Nominations:
Arthas Menethil (Warcraft) x10

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Oof, I've been out for a bit...

Anyway:
Buzzlights

Chance: 0%
Want: 0%

Yeah, yeah, anything can happen...

But what's the last time we ever got more than one mon from the same generation that wasn't gen 1? Especially since Meltan is here heralding the forthcoming Gen 8? Besides, even if we did get another gen 7, I expect they'd pick a more popular mon - there are loads voted higher than Xurk. Even if we wanted to focus on Ultra Beasts, Nihilego is the story-important one, Buzzwole/Pheremosa for the most popular version exclusives, Necrozma for the mascot of USUM, and there's Zeraora for the new movie mascot. Xurk's pretty far down the list actually.

If we got another Pokémon, I'd want to see Buzzwole get in. Unless they really wanted to throw us all and give Arcanine something (I'm loving he at least got a Spirit!)

Nom: More DLC x5

 

[Sid-cada]

Xurkitree

Chance - 0.01% - Ultra Beasts, while a notable subset of Pokemon, aren't that notable, and Xurkitree is a rather random one of them. With its generation already represented with a new one looming, it's not looking good at all.

Want - 40% - Eh... I guess it would be cool, but I don't find it interesting as a fighter. I would much rather have Nihilego instead.


Master Chief Prediction

Chance - 2.34% - Anything is possible, I guess...


Nominatinos

Dark Matter X10

 

[Ridrool64]

Plug n Play

Chance: 1%. A lot of things seem to be conspiring against that poor Pokémon. Incineroar, + not being from Generation 8, + not being a mascot of Generation 7, + the increasing focus on new series and third parties = poor Xurkitree doesn't get a lot of love.

Want: 20%? I'm not sure what to give it, but Xurkitree was the Ultra Beast I found the most captivating. That being said, I have no hands-on experience with it so. Hm.

If he's not up, Sly Cooper x 100. If he is, Arle Nadja x 10. Oh, and Master Chief will probably have a 18.52% chance. While things are working out in his favor, there's Banjo and Steve to deal with.

EDIT: Make that a 1.29% chance. He had an explicit disconfirmation.

I don't know what I was thinking yesterday. Was I ****ing high or something?

 

[RealPokeFan11]

Plug n Play

Chance: 1%. A lot of things seem to be conspiring against that poor Pokémon. Incineroar, + not being from Generation 8, + not being a mascot of Generation 7, + the increasing focus on new series and third parties = poor Xurkitree doesn't get a lot of love.

Want: 20%? I'm not sure what to give it, but Xurkitree was the Ultra Beast I found the most captivating. That being said, I have no hands-on experience with it so. Hm.

If he's not up, Sly Cooper x 100. If he is, Arle Nadja x 10. Oh, and Master Chief will probably have a 18.52% chance. While things are working out in his favor, there's Banjo and Steve to deal with.

EDIT: Make that a 1.29% chance. He had an explicit disconfirmation.

I don't know what I was thinking yesterday. Was I ****ing high or something?

Wait Master Chief got disconfirmed? How?

 

[Ridrool64]

If a Mr. O'Connor's word is to be taken, Master Chief is not Smash DLC. Now he might be wrong, or attempting to mislead us, or maybe he simply can't confirm it, but as far as I'm concerned, that's the end of that.

 

[RealPokeFan11]

If a Mr. O'Connor's word is to be taken, Master Chief is not Smash DLC. Now he might be wrong, or attempting to mislead us, or maybe he simply can't confirm it, but as far as I'm concerned, that's the end of that.

F for respects to Master Chief supporters. At least Banjo's chances went up! (Hint of tomorrow's avatar change)

I'm guessing Chorus Kids and Karate Joe are going back to tomorrow?

 

[Jomosensual]

Xurkitree

Chance: 0 - We got our Gen 7 rep already. I think if we do get a new Pokemon in the game it'll be a Gen 8 rep to help promote the new games, It's too bad, because there are a lot of Pokemon who could be fun picks from gen 7, but the chances we get another rep through DLC are pretty much non existent

Want: 30 - The number of gen 7 pokemon that I think would be fun is really damn high, but my interest for having them in for DLC is very low. Already have one, and there's already a ton of Pokemon in the game. Wouldn't complain if Xurkitree got in, but my hype level would be nowhere near as high as it was for the Joker announcement.

Noms:
Cranky Kong x 100

 

[PK-remling Fire]

Xurkitree

Chance: 0%
We already have a gen 7 rep, if we were to get another pokemon, it'd be from gen 8. Also Xurkitree is fairly overlooked compared to other pokemon (I had to google it to even find out what the pokemon actually was).

Want: 10%
I honestly don't see the appeal of this character. I'd much rather have Buzzwole or Nihilego if we were to get an Ultra Beast rep.

Noms: More DLC x5

 

[GoodGrief741]

I’ll be candid, totally forgot I hadn’t done nominations. Sorry.

Spoiler: Nominations post-The Prince pre-Xurkitree

Over 200

Arle Nadja x335
Concept: All DLC will be third-party x280
Rhythm Girl x265
Nero Claudius (Fate) x240

200 - 151

Grovyle x195
Mach Rider x195
Concept: Gen 8 Pokemon x191
Reaper (Overwatch) x190
Hollow Knight x187
Reimu Hakurei x180
Concept: More DLC x175
Concept: Stages outside Fighter Pass x175

150 - 101


Kat & Ana x130
Professor Hector x119
Concept: No fan favorite/highly requested characters x110
Andy (Advance Wars) x105
Concept: SNK rep x105
Impa x101

100 - 51


Maxwell (Scribblenauts) x100
Tracer x100
Concept: 100 characters max (counting Echo Fighters and Miis/Pokémon Trainer as 3) x100
Arthas Menethil (Warcraft) x100
Brash the Bear x100
Monster Hunter x100
Shy Guy x100
Dante x100
Poochy x100
Concept: Third-party character from unrepped Company x95
Sephiroth x95
Lora (Xenoblade) x90
Concept: Boss Rush x90
Boss: Kracko x85
Ravio x85
Porky Minch x71
Dark Matter x70
9-Volt x59
Concept: Style Savvy rep x55


50 - 25

Creeper x42
Spyro x42
Frisk x40
Papyrus x39
Concept: Assist Trophy becomes Fighter x30
Ninten x27
Thrall (Warcraft) x25
Cooking Mama x25
Hat Kid x25

Under 25


Boss: Perfect Chaos x20
Hector (Fire Emblem) x15
Pyra & Mythra (sans Rex) x15
Concept: Dragalia Lost rep x10
Decidueye x10
Concept: Bethesda rep x10
Frog (Chrono Trigger) x10
Kamek x10
Amaterasu x10
Earthworm Jim x10
Blacephalon x5
Zhao Yun (Dynasty Warriors) x5
Monokuma x5
Concept: Another joke character x5
Neptune x5
Concept: Crazi Taxi rep x5
Oliver (Ni No Kuni) x5
Ryu Hayabusa x5
Concept: Free updates (Splatoon-style) x5
Courier (Fallout) x5
Concept: Spirits aren’t disconfirmations x5
Scorpion x5
Concept: Another literally who Level-5 Character who's popular in Japan, like Achilles or Mark Evans x5
Lizalfos x4
Toon Zelda x3
Boss: Sans x2
Urbosa x1
[Rerate] Steve? x1

Concept: SNK Rep bursts past 100 noms.

Concept: Style Savvy Rep struts past 50 noms.

Hat Kid soars to 25 noms.

Today’s newcomers are a large bunch. With 100 noms each, they are Maxwell, Tracer, Concept: 100 characters max, Arthas Menethil, Brash the Bear, Monster Hunter, Shy Guy, Dante (who is disconfirmed), and Poochy. Merry Christmas to them!

RileyXY1 Echo Fighters as DLC is a concept on the schedule.

waddledeeonredyoshi By 100 characters max, do you mean ‘by the end of DLC, we will have less than or equal to 100 characters’, correct?

TCT~Phantom We got a Brash the Bear situation, do we allow it?

 

[waddledeeonredyoshi]

Xurkitree
Chance and Want: 0%
We are simply not likely getting another gen 7 mom or even another Pokémon in general, especially not such a random pick as Xurki. It's an Ultra beast sure but there are around 5 other Ultra beasts they could pick from, that is if they go for one at all. Gen 8 is the only gen that might still get representation at this point but I even think that's not that likely. Honestly, Pokémon don't really have that suprise factor anymore. Personally, I think we have more than enough Pokémon at the moment. We don't have may spots left, I'd like to see franchises represented that don't have their number of characters be in the double-digits. There are very little Pokémon left which I have even slight interest in, Xurkitree isn't one of those.

Master Chief (if tomorrow's his day): 12.78%
Chorus Kids and Karate Joe (if tomorrow's their day): 16.15% and 9.23%
Hollow Knight x5

waddledeeonredyoshi By 100 characters max, do you mean ‘by the end of DLC, we will have less than or equal to 100 characters’, correct?

More like 100 characters exact by the end of dlc, yes.

 

[WaddleMatt]

Ah crap I missed a day, eh whatever...

Xurkitree:

Chance - 0.1%

A Pokemon which isn't even popular and from the same generation we just got a Pokemon from. Anything can happen of course but this isn't likely though at all. If we get another Gen 7 Pokemon I can't see anyone other than Lycanroc.

Want - Abstain

I am a Pokemon fan but I have never seen or used Xurkitree and know nothing about it.

Nominations: Isaac x100 (If that is allowed because AT) if not then Vaati x100

 

[shocktarts17]

Xurkitree
Chance: 0%
I think this could maybe have been a solid 1% chance if the DLC wasn't shaping up to have a 3rd party focus, but if 1st party characters are fighting over 2-3 spots then I don't see how this one Pokemon beats out the competition. We already got a Pokemon newcomer from this Gen and Xurkitree is hardly the next in line for iconic characters or even unique movesets.
Want: 10%
I give him the cursory he-isn't-Sans-or-Steve-or-Master-Chief want but he probably wouldn't even in my top 5 Pokemon if the DLC was going to be all Pokemon.

Prediction: 1%
Nominations: Rabbid x100
So if I do the x100 bomb do I have to use my x10 on them or can I start nominating Ravio again tomorrow with x10?

 

[PeridotGX]

Circuitry

Chance: 0%. If we get another Pokemon, It'll be Grovyle/Sceptile. If we get another Gen 7 Pokemon, It'll be Lycanroc. If we get an Ultra Beast, it'll be Nihelego. He has literally no chance.

Want: 35%. He'd be neat. There are many Pokemon I would prefer though

Noms: Grovyle x9, Maxwell x1

 

[TCT~Phantom]

GoodGrief741

Yeah Brash is kosher. He ain't on the noms list. Ill let it be.

Xurkitree
0% Chance

Sorry PokeFan, but this is something I do not see happening. Gen 7 is waning, and I say that with Lycanroc among my most wanted. But at least Lycanroc appears to be one of the biggest mons of Gen 7, with it being Ash's main pokemon so far in the Alola arc and getting its own form. But Xurkitree I would not even put in the top 15. The Tapus, The Starters, Lycanroc, Cosmog Family, Necrozma, Nihilego, Buzzwole, Pheromosa, Poiple, even Magearna I would say are bigger gen 7 mons. And that does not include Alolan forms. Essentially, so much competition in its own region, and the odds of that even happening at this point are super small. And keep in mind, Lycanroc is in my top wanted newcomers when I say that.

Abstain Want

Yeah, I do not wanna tank the want score even further. The best response I could say is this is a character I feel genuinely apathetic towards. I mean, I do not hate Xurkitree. However, I feel that it is not in my favorite mons of the region. I feel that you could conceivably put together a strong moveset for the mon, but I can do that for most pokemon.

Nominating Sephiroth x 10

Now that I did the Tracer bomb, I have to keep supporting this underrated choice.

Day will end around 12:30-1 PM EST, fair warning on time.

 

[Perkilator]

Electro from Spider-Man

Chance: 0.2%
We technically already have a Gen 7 rep, so there’s next game if there can be another.

Want: 80%
It’s been a while since I’ve played Gen 7, much less used Xurkitree. But either way, I’d love to play him if he ever becomes DLC (even though I want Blacephalon more lol).

 

[RouffWestie]

Xurkitree
Chance: 0%
I doubt Nintendo would be looking for another Gen 7 Pokemon for DLC. Especially if they're not amazingly popular. I find this about as sensible as adding the band members from Mario Odyssey.

Want: 1%
The only interesting thing Xurtiree brings to the table is that it's an Ultra Beast. UBs were a strange new concept and kind of new idea I never expected from the Pokemon series.

Nomination:
Concept: No fan favorite/highly requested characters x10

 

[Icedragonadam]

Xurkitree

Chance: 0.01%

-We just got a gen 7 Pokemon in Base game.
-Seriously just what!?

Want: 0%

-Again like the chances.
-Just what!? XD

Prediction: 3.55%

Nominate All DLC are 3rd party x10

 

[TCT~Phantom]

Day over, rate Master Chief, predict Karate Joe and the Chorus Kids.

 

[Sari]

Master Chief

Chance: 0%
We have yet to see a character appear in Smash that is owned by a company currently fighting a console war with Nintendo. In regards to Microsoft reps, I feel that Steve or Banjo would probably be picked over him and even their chances aren't the greatest. Also from what I understand Xbox and Halo aren't all that big in Japan.

Up until yesterday I would've given Master Chief a 5% chance for the reasons described above; the extra 5% being from Microsoft being fairly open with Nintendo recently (at least compared to Sony) and Master Chief being a gaming icon. But with the recent news that the Development Director of the Halo series (Frank O'Connor) flat out deconfirmed Master Chief on Twitter, he has literally no chance at all. Of course you could argue that he's lying but I feel if Master Chief were really in Smash then Frank would most likely have to remain silent on the matter.

Want: 60%
I'll be perfectly honest and say that I have never owned anything related to Halo or Xbox in my entire life. With that out of the way, seeing Mario and Master Chief fight each other in a videogame would be something out of a dream. It'd probably make the Internet explode over how crazy the crossover would be. I'd be completely down for it.

Chorus Kids chance prediction: 10.22%
Karate Joe chance prediction: 6.71%

Nominations:
Concept: SNK rep x10

 

[WaddleMatt]

Master Cheif:

Chance - 0.000000001%

The developers of Halo straight up said it wasn't happening.... If that isn't disconfirmation I don't know what is. I'm giving a very small percent just in case they were lying but that isn't the case most likely.

Want - Abstain

I think I played Halo like once year ago but I don't remember. I can't rate this character fairly.

Nominations: Rhythm Girl x5

(No one got back to me yesterday about my question with the 100 noms btw)

 

[Ridrool64]

Finisher of Fights

Chance: 0%. Outright disconfirmed by his dev team. Now while we're still going to do his day, but I don't think that leaves much to the imagination.

Want: 1%. Banjo competition, and even Steve competition. After Joker, I'd rather not see competition. He gets a pity vote for being a rule-breaker for good, though.

Arle Nadja x5/10, and both of the two tommorow will get a 6.58% chance. They're spirits, and they're not money farms, but they're at least a new series.

 

[Icedragonadam]

Master Chief

Chance: 2%

-It's unlikely we'll see an 1st person shooter reps in the game.
-The genre is very unpopular in Japan and DLC would have to be appealing for both sides of the pacific.
-Banjo and Steve are more likely as a Microsoft rep than Master Chief due to them being more notable in Japan compared him.

Want: 30%

-I like the guy though.
-But I just don't want him in Smash.

RH characters prediction: 1.22%(Karate Joe), 1.26%(Chorus Kids)

Nominate Concept: World of Light DLC expansion x100

 

[Jomosensual]

Master Chief

Chance: 50 - Hitagi backed off steve being playable and Vergeben is going with a Minecraft boss being in the game over a character, and Banjo being almost a relic at this point might mean he could get passed over for Master Chief, who would fit the same kind of holy **** moment people had over Joker. I think he would sell fairly similarly to how Banjo would sell, and Master Chief would absolutely bring tons of buzz for smash and the fighter pass. Not that Banjo wouldn't do any of that of course, but I think it's a 50/50 chance between the 2 now while pre Joker I had Banjo as the runaway favorite.


Want: 50 - I haven't touched a Halo game in a while, but I did always like playing them with friends. That's about as far as my connection goes with the character. He fits the ultimate crossover and characters you'd never expect taglines perfectly. If he's not the most iconic character from Microsoft, he's very close, and would give me a "holy ****, how is this real" reaction when getting to see him on the select screen for the first time.

Noms:
Nathan Drake x 100

 

[Wyoming]

Chief was disconfirmed by i343's head. Every time a developer has said no it has meant no. That's the end of that.

 

[Flyboy]

Master Chief
Chance: .0001%
To keep it simple, he's the mascot of a rival company that has been completely deconfirmed by the owners on Twitter. This plummets his chances in my eyes. I know Microsoft and Nintendo have a good relationship now, and that truly warms my heart, but I can only give this the most remote of chances. Combine that with the Xbox's general lack of Japanese popularity and you have the entire deck stacked against him. He was already a remote chance, a pie-in-the-sky choice, but explicit deconfirmation was the final nail for me.

Want: 80%
I have played Halo a handful of times in my life. My entire experience with the original Xbox was going to a friend's to play theirs for Jet Set Radio Future and Shenmue 2. I have no love for the series though I did watch some Red vs. Blue growing up. But at the same time, I have a very short list of characters who have never had meaningful appearances on a Nintendo console that I would welcome to Smash with open arms. They are:

1. 2B
2. Master Chief

2B starred in my favorite game of all time, so that's the measuring stick. Master Chief is on that list not just because of his iconic status but for other reasons he has that put him over every other other-company-owned IP for me. Yes, he's iconic. Yes, seeing him vs. Samus is a dream. Yes, it'd represent a milestone in gaming. But more than that? Chief just feels like he'd fit right in to the Smash world. I have this issue with Doomguy, the idea that by taking him out of his context he'd lose what makes him unique. Not so with Chief. He has tons of moves he can use, a recognizable green suit and gold visor combo that helps him stand out, a moveset that can be fun, flashy, and a little bit wacky, and you don't need over the top violence to keep his essence in a crossover game. (Though on that note, Doomguy for Mortal Kombat!)

I'd love to see Master Chief. Again, I'm not even attached to the character but a Smash logo followed by the Halo theme would be one of the most surreal experiences ever.

Nominations:
Style Savvy Rep x5
Ryota Hayami x5

(If this isn't how the ten vote gift works just give all 10 to Style Savvy)

 

[RealPokeFan11]

One less form of competition for Banjo
Chance: DISCONFIRMED (previously gonna be 25%)
Want: 20%

Well, this day seems completely pointless now that Master Chief is basically done for. O'Connor flat out disconfirmed him via Twitter on Sunday. When a developer says no, this usually means no.

Master Chief is not is Smash DLC. Although I did just download Smash. Now I’m going to do what I always do, button mash, do Street Fighter circle moves and jabs till one works, and then try to keep pushing to the right no matter what is happening or what characters are fighting.

— Frank (@franklez) December 23, 2018

I feel like we should just move on to Karate Joe and Chorus Kids, now that we're rating a disconfirmed character.

Want score is staying low, because I'm a Banjo supporter and MC serves as competition along with Steve for a spot in the fighters pass. He also just seems bland considering we have Samus and Dark Samus who are quite similar in body style and both use guns and cannons. At least Banjo only has Steve to worry about now.

Karate Joe 35.21%
Chorus Kids 38.62%
(Keep in mind Rhythm Heaven is still unrepresented in Smash Bros with a fighter.)

Reaper x10 (200 Noms club!)

 

[jamesster445]

Chief

Chance- 10%
Want- 100%

So I had no expectations of Chief being in Smash. He's owned by a rival console manufacturer and reps a genre of games that's generally unpopular in Japan. And more recently a rep from 343 studios deconfirmed Chief. Maybe Chief will get his chance in a potential DLC season 2.
That said he is A pioneer of the shooter genre which hasnt been repped in Smash yet. Chief is also one of the most recognized video game characters of all time rivaling even Mario and Link (according to the Guinness book of world records). So I'd love to see him in Smash. I also think there's a good opportunity for "crossover" between Smash/Nintendo fans and Halo/Xbox fans, similar to what we saw with Joker.

Nominations- Tora and Poppi x5

 

[TCT~Phantom]

Chief is gonna get the lowest score so far ain’t he?

Well he is kinda deconfirmed.

I am gonna rate him later, remember the noms stuff.

 

[Perkilator]

Master Chief

Abstain from both. He’s been axed. End of story.

 

[ProfPeanut]

Master Chief

Chance: 0%
Axed by the development director of 343 himself. What a way to go.

I gotta say, between Travis Touchdown and now Master Chief, this feels like the first time third-party developers have had to come out and deconfirm their characters themselves. Smash used to just be some side gig to the rest of the industry, which you didn't have to spend a single word on since you likely weren't under the Nintendo umbrella. Really gives you an idea of how impactful the Joker reveal was.

Want: 20%
I find Doomslayer the best shooter candidate they can go for, but Master Chief's one of the few (if not the only) character left tossed around in speculation with the same level of half-joking, half-sincere emotion as Cloud. A lot of people would be pleased as punch to get him, and the shock of it wouldn't be as hard as it would've been in the Xbox/GC/PS2 era.


Predictions
Karate Joe: 10%
Chorus Kids: 12%

Nominations
Hat Kid: x10

 

[Lasatar]

Chief:

Chance: 0%. He was flat out deconfirmed. Previously though I'd have given him a 50% chance, though, since it was pretty much between him and Steve for Microsoft representation, and I was quite confident that one of them would have made it.

Want: Eh, I'll give him a 60% want. He seems like he could have a cool and creative moveset.

Nominations: If we're still allowed the double nominations, Reimu x10. If not, just make that a x5 instead.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Sakurai also recently said that Joker has yet to be worked on. There's a good chance that if they're attempting to get Master Chief, he wouldn't "be in the game". This seems like a way more literal case than normal. He's literally not in the game(yet). If he was, there's no way they'd be able to say he was via NDA. I wouldn't take it to mean much(especially since how could he be among the game yet when DLC isn't remotely worked on? The context makes the information likely not useful).

Rating: 20% Keeping in mind the above information, I feel he has a reasonable chance. He's already appeared via a costume in Minecraft, as the Halo Mash-Up Pack has been on the Switch version. It never hit anything beyond the Xbox or PC versions before that. Though that may be mostly Sony being difficult to work with, it shows that clearly Microsoft isn't opposed to their top first party IP's showing up on Nintendo consoles in other roles. It may seem small, but this already proves that crossovers aren't as big of a deal as people make it. I have a feeling what would keep him out instead would be having issues figuring out a good gun gameplay style that feels accurate to the series without breaking any realistic gun(and bullets) rules. I'd still say he's more like than Banjo, who's pretty much dead. Steve easily has the edge, and I don't mean his sword.

Want: 80%. I don't want him nearly as much as Steve or Fulgore, but he's an amazing FPS character and definitely worthy of being in Smash. A true icon that shaped games to come. I feel a similar way about Steve and Fulgore(as they both, via their games too, contributed heavily to their respective genres with a major impact. As much as I like Banjo, I don't feel he did nearly as much in comparison. They're damn good collectathons, but the impact is way overstated. It was just... better than Donkey Kong 64, but I never felt it severely impacted a ton of games to come. I know Banjo at least helped shape the Ratchet & Clank series, and I think one more, but that's... not much, really).

 

[Deleted member]

Chief:
Chance: 0% DLC, 80% next Smash
He is an Icon, but he'd probably be the exact same as Snake in a lot of ways, So I don't think they'll add someone who is almost the exact same as another fighter. But there is love for him, although they would most likely do Banjo and Kazooe, or Steve? for DLC, I see an 80% of him being in the next Smash game tho.

Want:
90% he's one of my childhood heroes, and I just wish one day I could be The Glorious Spartan one day, beating the pulp out of A random kid Ness.
He's 90% because he's not my most wanted, and I also don't think I'll like his playstyle.

Nominations:
Beat (Jet Set Radio) x5

 

[RealPokeFan11]

Chief:
Chance: 0% DLC, 80% next Smash
He is an Icon, but he'd probably be the exact same as Snake in a lot of ways, So I don't think they'll add someone who is almost the exact same as another fighter. But there is love for him, although they would most likely do Banjo and Kazooe, or Steve? for DLC, I see an 80% of him being in the next Smash game tho.

Want:
90% he's one of my childhood heroes, and I just wish one day I could be The Glorious Spartan one day, beating the pulp out of A random kid Ness.

Nominations:
Beat from Jet Set Radio, I even made the support thread.

You might want to put x100 next to your nominations for them to count.

 

[Deleted member]

You might want to put x100 next to your nominations for them to count.

ok?

 

[Troykv]

Chief Master.

Talking about character that would potentially and literally disconfirmed is a very weird sittuation, specially when it's something that isn't actually supported for official annoucement of Smash Bros itself... For practical effect Master Chief should be impossible; but the weirdness of this situation just doesn't allow me to give a proper rate.

____________

Predictions:

Karate Joe: 11.2%
Chorus Kids: 11.4%

Nominations:

Reimu Hakurei x5

 

[Garteam]

The Green Spartan: Master Chief
Chance - 1%
Being deconfirmed by a Microsoft employee is a pretty big nail in the coffin. That being said, Nintendo and Microsoft have strong relations and he's a massive icon. Never say never, but the odds are massively weighed against him.

Want - 70%
He's cool, and I have memories of playing Halo with buddies in high school, but I'd rather see Doom Slayer as the FPS rep.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

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Chance: disconfirmed by name
Want: 20%

Well, if there's one genre we haven't seen in Smash, it's the FPS. And there's a reason for that - Japan's really not big on them.

Master Chief's definitely got a pedigree with gaming history. He's the big XBox exclusive character, doubly so now that Microsoft has pretty well killed off all of their other exclusives. Halo's a long running series, and it has a lot of fan support.

But...as much as we like to pretend there's some huge console war, Sony's winning hands down. Xbox sales are negligible in Japan, where Sony is headquartered. And as such, Master Chief's not really much of a name there. Add to that that he's a futuristic power-armored super soldier, and we're seeing a lot of thematic overlap with Samus and Snake, so there's not too much uniqueness that he could bring in. Besides, Microsoft owns two other companies which people talk about much more for Smash than an exclusive who's never seen a Nintendo console outside of a skin - the Bear and Bird and the Blockhead. If Ninty went to Microsoft for anyone, they're probably trying to get the nostalgia fan favorite or the groundbreaking modern icon, not someone who is almost a literally who in Japan.

Of course, all of this assumes that he has a chance in the first place. Halo's head-of-division came out and straight up said no. Not "Oh, well we don't know, wouldn't that be awesome unfortunatelywe'reunderanNDAsowecan'tsayathing." He said no. Not happening, period.

So am I disappointed? Not really. I may be on the XBox side, but I royally suck at FPSs and I hate playing online, so Halo holds no interest for me. The only thing is I'd have preferred Master Chief to Doomguy in terms of the green-power-armored-super-soldier-with-futuristic-weapons character, but a lot of that also comes from me preferring someone else to get in over Doomguy in the first place. He's definitely iconic and looks pretty cool, but I'm not going to miss him from Smash.

Nom: More DLC x5 (or are we on x10s? I'm confused)