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R.I.P. Kjell Anders "Nappy" Peterson.

etecoon

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I have awful timing and clumsy hands so I couldn't play someone like IC's :/

then again not like I'm that great at snake/MK either, klutziness affects everyone...
 

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I'm not to sure about my new font choice though... what do you think?

Compared to this
the greenish color is better imo, and elfen lied is just win
I stopped a while ago because I ****ing hate the generation 3 EV system with a passion.

The fact that I swore shows you how much I hate it.
whats wrong with the ev system? Doesn't seem off to me or stupid in any way
 

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marth is gay. I dont care what happens in the game he's in he's a queer ****** and he likes other mens in his bed.
 

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I only played Super Metroid for SNES. If they come out with an essential pack, or a trilogy or what not, I'll play the others. I heard the controls for the GC metroid games were a b****.
Metroid Prime Trilogy is out august 24th in fact. And the GC games have been reworked to have wii controls like Corruption, although I didn't mind the controls at all, and I don't really know anyone who did...
 
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I only played Super Metroid for SNES. If they come out with an essential pack, or a trilogy or what not, I'll play the others. I heard the controls for the GC metroid games were a b****.
Nah, they're pretty intuitive once you get used to pressing A+B->A+R->L->Z+R+B+A to reload within about one second. Oh yeah, and morph ball is kinda like pulling off those really strong grabs with Ivy in SCIII: hard, but oh so rewarding because you can then continue with the game!

Poor jokes aside, the control really is pretty good on that game.

Super Metroid was the shiznit.

marth is gay. I dont care what happens in the game he's in he's a queer ****** and he likes other mens in his bed.
Not as gay as some people (PENGUINS) I know. Playing every single char he infinites or shortsteps kinda makes you hate that guy. Ironically, I like gaying it up with him too... *sigh*

METROID PRIME TRILOGY???

WANTWANTWANTWANTWANT!

There is exactly one FPS that is better than metroid prime 1 and 2, and that is portal (haven't tried 3). But then again, Portal got 10/10 from the hardest reviewer on the web, so I think it's fair to say that it is perfect in every single way.
 

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We all know snake is manly and that he doesn't wear skin tights to compensate for the so call "lack" of manliness (according to said thread). The fact is that Snake wears tights to prevent his junk from utilting everyone with every step.
 

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the greenish color is better imo, and elfen lied is just win


whats wrong with the ev system? Doesn't seem off to me or stupid in any way
Before I explain, it's vital to know how the EV system worked in generations 1 and 2:

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EV

To me, the new system leeks of logical fail.

If you are putting a 510 cap on Effort values, the least you could do is SHOW US THESE VALUES. SHOW US the amount of effort points Pokemon currently have. SHOW US which Pokemon give us which effort points.
By putting that 510 cap, you are basically telling us to pay attention to these values.

What contradicts that cause is that THESE VALUES ARE HIDDEN.

It also makes raising Pokemon MUCH MORE TEDIOUS than before.

This is why I liked the old system. The values were hidden, but you didn't have to pay attention to them. There wasn't a limit on how many EVs you could get overall. Therefore, you don't have to spend hours just leveling up a Pokemon because you have to run away from most of the wild Pokemon since they don't ouput the correct EVs.

You could get all the EVs you need in generation 2 but simply battling the Elite 4, Red, your rival, and the trainers on both routes on the S.S. Aqua.

I'm talking about Generation 3 here.

I don't care whether generation 4 shows us these values. It's too little, too late.
 

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I stopped playing with R/B/Y after putting like 300 hours into both red and yellow, lol :/ it seems too overwhelming to get back into now, 151 pokemon was fine, seems too complicated and time consuming these days(neverminding the fact that at some point in school pokemon took over my life?)
 

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You know who else is gay?
Yellow mice and alter ego ninjas.


I can't wait for that Trilogy, I already have Prime 3 and 2 from a friend, what they need to add is multiplayer.

Online multiplayer.

I stopped playing with R/B/Y after putting like 259:99 hours into both red and yellow, lol :/ it seems too overwhelming to get back into now, 151 pokemon was fine, seems too complicated and time consuming these days(neverminding the fact that at some point in school pokemon took over my life?)
Fixed.
 

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I'm not vehemently opposed to it as some are but I don't see why metroid really needs multiplayer, it typically hasn't been that kind of game at all...it just has the standard local MP2 echoes multiplayer though, no extra multi mode.

it's extra's from what I've seen are an included art book, MP3 like credits system for MP1 and 2(presumably to unlock the GBA connect galleries and maybe other stuff?), sound test, new difficulty modes...I think that's what's been confirmed so far...
 

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Before I explain, it's vital to know how the EV system worked in generations 1 and 2:

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/EV

To me, the new system leeks of logical fail.

If you are putting a 510 cap on Effort values, the least you could do is SHOW US THESE VALUES. SHOW US the amount of effort points Pokemon currently have. SHOW US which Pokemon give us which effort points.
By putting that 510 cap, you are basically telling us to pay attention to these values.

What contradicts that cause is that THESE VALUES ARE HIDDEN.

It also makes raising Pokemon MUCH MORE TEDIOUS than before.

This is why I liked the old system. The values were hidden, but you didn't have to pay attention to them. There wasn't a limit on how many EVs you could get overall. Therefore, you don't have to spend hours just leveling up a Pokemon because you have to run away from most of the wild Pokemon since they don't ouput the correct EVs.

You could get all the EVs you need in generation 2 but simply battling the Elite 4, Red, your rival, and the trainers on both routes on the S.S. Aqua.

I'm talking about Generation 3 here.

I don't care whether generation 4 shows us these values. It's too little, too late.
you need to see them? When it comes to competitive pokemon its rather simple once you understand to make them and ev....training isn't hard and as long as you keep track of what you fight you can guarantee you get the right amount of ev's, as well as checking the pokemons stat at lvl 100 to make sure it has the max and mininum of everything needed

the 510 cap is just forcing more originality and limiting what pokemon can do a little more than before, it makes you have to think of where what goes and how to distribute it to stop whatever you need to and make it do whatever is necessary
 

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I'm not vehemently opposed to it as some are but I don't see why metroid really needs multiplayer, it typically hasn't been that kind of game at all...it just has the standard local MP2 echoes multiplayer though, no extra multi mode.

it's extra's from what I've seen are an included art book, MP3 like credits system for MP1 and 2(presumably to unlock the GBA connect galleries and maybe other stuff?), sound test, new difficulty modes...I think that's what's been confirmed so far...
You have no idea, how fun that multiplayer is, it's the offline equivalent of a GoW free for all.
Get 4 skilled players and go a few rounds in MP2 multiplayer, it's mad fun.
 

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you need to see them? When it comes to competitive pokemon its rather simple once you understand to make them and ev....training isn't hard and as long as you keep track of what you fight you can guarantee you get the right amount of ev's, as well as checking the pokemons stat at lvl 100 to make sure it has the max and mininum of everything needed
The problem is that this system make the process significantly more time consuming than before.

Why should have to do ALL of this when I didn't have to before?

I did the research on the Gen3 EV system and have decide that it isn't worth my time.

the 510 cap is just forcing more originality and limiting what pokemon can do a little more than before, it makes you have to think of where what goes and how to distribute it to stop whatever you need to and make it do whatever is necessary
Restricting options =/= more originality.

Restricting EVs can, to an extent, restrict what strats to use on certain Pokemon(Hi Misdreadvus, too bad about perish trapping) and affects a Poke's survivability and/or damage output since you EV options are really limited now.

Question: Have you played any of the 1st or 2nd gen games? What was the first Pokemon game you played?

Mines was Blue.
 

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Black and white animals with a sword are not gay, just blind.

Anyway, I really think you should make those tunes into brstms.
 

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I know who you are referring to. Don't say anymore about that.

The only way the series can redeem itself in my eyes is to

A. Go back to the old EV system

B. Show current Pokemon EVs and show which Pokemon give which EVs.

To those who are see SWF all white, switch the Quick Style chooser to Smash Blue or Classic Blue.
 

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I have come to the conclusion that Peach or IC's are the best Snake secondaries.

They both go 70:30 against Olimar (says them)

Olimar says 38:62 against Peach
Olimar says 45:55 against IC's

That in my eyes makes Peach my new secondary.

Because Lolimar is the ONLY matchup I find myself unable to win.

And I do not like unwinnable matchups.

Marth and Luigi work, but I have come to the conclusion that my Luigi is horribad, and my Marth is only sub-par..
After Genesis, I honestly don't think that the Oli matchup is all that bad. I fought Rich Brown, who was the highest placing Oli and is supposedly "the reason there are no snakes in cali anymore" according to some SoCal smashers. And I honestly don't see why it's all that bad.

When I found out I was fighting him, the only thing I had heard about Oli was what you've said and I thought I was screwed. I was even contemplating going some other random oli counter, but decided to stay snake.

But what I found was I was going really even with him and was one hit away from winning both matches I lost. And honestly, I should have won that last match, if only I hadn't gotten two white pikmin on my back on the last stock for a total of 73%...

So here are just some of my thoughts from Genesis...

Oli really isn't as bad as you make it out to be.

Marth-snake matchup is even

Fox-Snake matchup is even.
 

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Please share with the SS how the **** you did the Olimar matchup. T_T

Marth/Fox vs snake is even. <_< I've thought that for a while. Especially after my fights with Bardull and Haze.

Also Utah could just be THAT ****ing good. ;)
 

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I started with Pokemon yellow and then gold. I didn't know what EVs were till about 30 seconds ago... I'm not competitive. I liked the old Pokemon games, they were fun. I'd replay them again, but 1) I don't have an adapter and I hate using batteries, 2) I'm an RPG training *****, and power leveling takes so long. I might pick it up one day :)
 

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I know who you are referring to. Don't say anymore about that.

The only way the series can redeem itself in my eyes is to

A. Go back to the old EV system

B. Show current Pokemon EVs and show which Pokemon give which EVs.

To those who are see SWF all white, switch the Quick Style chooser to Smash Blue or Classic Blue.
Still dont see why you hate it so much theres lists on websites of which pokemon give which ev's and its not hard to keep track of
 

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One of them, Minako Hamano also worked on Super Metroid and Koichi Kyuma is also credited for Metroid Prime's soundtrack, as well as Kenji Yamamoto. Definitely some of my favorite nintendo music between those games

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I'd like to pick up IC's if I played more just to complete the MK/Snake/IC's trio of "wow brawl is a pretty horrible game", alas I don't feel like practicing more.
Learning ICs is a really smart thing to do, regardless of your main. I picked up ICs back when I used to main TL back in 08, and now they pretty much cover any bad matchup I have. My MK does that too, but ICs are more fun.
 
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