Black_Heretic
Smash Lord
but Snake doesn't glide with ***** *** wings, he rides his ****-copter
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R.I.P. Kjell Anders "Nappy" Peterson.
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Berserker.
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Your sayin' he's slow in air?
Offensive Ganondorf can be godly sometimes
Offensive Ganondorf can be godly sometimes
AllyKnight
Banned via Administration
I think Snake vs MK MU is 55-45 now in MK favor.
Black_Heretic
Smash Lord
every time you post, you become a worse player in my mind
I have a million names for that thing, but ****-copter is the one I've been using the most lately
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I agree with this. It is still very winnable though.
Yumewomiteru
Smash Master
At our last smashfest I won a 2v1 by planking with Snake, true story. I was spamming nades on the ledge and one of my opponent tried to bair me, failed and killed himself lololololol.
What do you think of my new avi? Free internetz to those who knows who she is =D.
What do you think of my new avi? Free internetz to those who knows who she is =D.
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Kidding about that :/
@Ally: Wasn't it always like that?
@Ally: Wasn't it always like that?
Yumewomiteru
Smash Master
no it used to be 50-50, 55-45 makes more sense, which is actually pretty tough, considering a 60-40 is a really tough matchup at a high level of play.
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MK is hard 
I'm gonna take a break from brawl.
Don't worry syx, I was just kidding about that. I'm improving with some MUs like Olimar and not much of DDD.
I'm gonna take a break from brawl.
Don't worry syx, I was just kidding about that. I'm improving with some MUs like Olimar and not much of DDD.
I remember that. It was pretty funny random, and if I recall it was between 2 scrubs too. lol
more like 6/4 mk's favor.
Yumewomiteru
Smash Master
Yeah its def not that bad, 4-6 is like Dedede territory.
oh its that bad.
provided the mk is playing on an m2k level of gay. Not trying to use his level of skill as an example. Its just he's probably the mk who does all the dumbest **** you can do. Like stalling/abusing the games mechanics wise.
provided the mk is playing on an m2k level of gay. Not trying to use his level of skill as an example. Its just he's probably the mk who does all the dumbest **** you can do. Like stalling/abusing the games mechanics wise.
MK vs snake is 6:4 or 55:45, it's grey area to me
NE is like all snake's, too bad they're still mostly better than me XD
it's more like 55:45 if the MK doesn't play retardedly gay as nappy said, but it's definitely a solid advantage for MK anyway
lol M2Gay. I remember one of his comments on the ban was something like "at least MK's metagame is actually fighting you not running away and chain grabs". funny how that changed and now he probably is the gayest since plank/spam/bowyer quit
NE is like all snake's, too bad they're still mostly better than me XD
it's more like 55:45 if the MK doesn't play retardedly gay as nappy said, but it's definitely a solid advantage for MK anyway
lol M2Gay. I remember one of his comments on the ban was something like "at least MK's metagame is actually fighting you not running away and chain grabs". funny how that changed and now he probably is the gayest since plank/spam/bowyer quit
llamapaste
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How do you guys play Pika and D3? Hate their chaingrabs on Snake. I played K9 this weekend at a tourny. I couldn't stop getting grabbed by his Pika. ALso, I played him on Smashville. I was able to powershield most of his thunderjolts but he didin't shorthop them or anything. I couldn't aprroach. Are you just supposed to wait for the platform to come? I had trouble camping him. Against D3 I kept getting chaingrabbed and couldn't do anything. How do you avoid getting grabbed? Why are people saying the D3 matchup is even? It's 40-60 or worse in my opinion. Matchup advice and vids would be helpful thanks.
Yumewomiteru
Smash Master
People who say Snake vs. Dedede is even have never played against a good Dedede.
It's probably 40-60, I don't see it being worse than that.
It's probably 40-60, I don't see it being worse than that.
Darkshadow7827
Smash Lord
Snake is a bit overrated. Just air **** us more. Yea, I think diddy is somewhere in the top 5 or top 3. And I think DDD is 4:6.
The Cunning Weasel
Smash Master
I get ***** by DDD's back air.
Yumewomiteru
Smash Master
You're actually getting ***** by the chaingrab since chaingrab puts you offstage which in turn makes you run into bairs.
llamapaste
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Will someone please help me with the matchups not argue over ratios?
Yumewomiteru
Smash Master
In all seriousness, CP MK, nado a few times, run away for 8 minutes.
But if you still want to use SNake, I can give a few tips, what do you need help with?
Yumewomiteru
Smash Master
Double posting cuz this is important (not really lul).
I found Velox everyone!
http://www.smashboards.com/member.php?u=57106
Although I don't think it's our Velox since our Velox doesn't play Melee and lives in the middle of nowhere in Iowa somewhere.
I found Velox everyone!
http://www.smashboards.com/member.php?u=57106
Although I don't think it's our Velox since our Velox doesn't play Melee and lives in the middle of nowhere in Iowa somewhere.
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llamapaste
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Yume I have trouble with the not getting grabbed part. Thank you Sinz i'll study up some Razer.
Yumewomiteru
Smash Master
Learn the range of his grabs, its biiiig, bigger than yours. And try not to approach, camping is the best way do go. He can grab you out of your tilts so don't do it too much. And mix up landing options with breverse and such.
If he's just always going for the shield grab, you can grab him first if hes expecting a tilt or something.
If he's just always going for the shield grab, you can grab him first if hes expecting a tilt or something.
llamapaste
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Thank you. Oh and Pika advive is needed too.
I can help you. You say not to talk about pikmin, but this is essential in DIing the throws at high percents, and predicting followups. Blues and whites have the longest grab ranges. Blue b-throw is a kill move. If he grabs you with a blue at a high percent and it is fresh, expect it. If he grabs you with a purple at high percent, he will u-throw if he thinks it will kill. Thing is, purple's have the shortest grab range. I personally would not go for a grab with a purple at low %. I will likely throw it. If I get a grab at low %, I'm probably going to d-throw you and go for either fair->regrab or u-smash -> follow up. I'm going to camp my balls off and punish whenever possible. F-smash for spacing. If I have a white next in line I'm going to throw it.
Hope that helps.
I've been thinking this for awhile. I think snake is around 4th or 5th best these days
I'm debating dropping snake for diddy. He's more fun. :D. Just gotta learn all the banana techs first though.
TwentyTwo
Smash Ace
Dang, had to read like 5 pages of shenanigans.
DDD can do a whole bunch of dumb **** to you, just try to not get yourself into a position where it'll happen. I personally punish much more with utilt in this matchup then ftilt, simply because with utilt, they're landing or it can push them far enough away, as ftilt1 is easy to grab out of with DDD. You have a pretty strong edge guarding game against DDD just be aware of swallowcide. Shoot mortars, bounce grenades off the ground, grab him out of his Up B, take the ledge, so on and so forth. Your grenade grab out ranges his dash grab but only his dash grab, if he walks and grabs, he'll out range you. Pick a stage, where you can generally avoid the hardest punishment like getting chaingrabbed across the stage to a lesser punishment. Say if you get grabbed on a platform, it is much less devastating then being grabbed on the flat bottom of a stage.
Pika. He's annoying too, but if he's camping, then just powershield and cook nades in between jolts. K9 is pretty good and planks hard a lot, but you're going to have to practice your nade timing, so you can grab the ledge with a nade and have invincibility. Generally you want to camp until a percent, or get hit by enough jolts while camping so you can't get super **** grabbed.
I've always felt like as Snake players, we think he's not as good as others see him. However, when playing against Snake with other characters **** gets confusing fast, and you just make mistakes and that's in turn gets you punished hard, and you're just like what the **** this guy is broke. It's just looking at it from both views, I play a small bit of diddy and can see he's a great character, but someone like ADHD knows diddy like the back of his hand, and his judgment is probably pretty good on how good or bad diddy is.
Hi guys.
DDD can do a whole bunch of dumb **** to you, just try to not get yourself into a position where it'll happen. I personally punish much more with utilt in this matchup then ftilt, simply because with utilt, they're landing or it can push them far enough away, as ftilt1 is easy to grab out of with DDD. You have a pretty strong edge guarding game against DDD just be aware of swallowcide. Shoot mortars, bounce grenades off the ground, grab him out of his Up B, take the ledge, so on and so forth. Your grenade grab out ranges his dash grab but only his dash grab, if he walks and grabs, he'll out range you. Pick a stage, where you can generally avoid the hardest punishment like getting chaingrabbed across the stage to a lesser punishment. Say if you get grabbed on a platform, it is much less devastating then being grabbed on the flat bottom of a stage.
Pika. He's annoying too, but if he's camping, then just powershield and cook nades in between jolts. K9 is pretty good and planks hard a lot, but you're going to have to practice your nade timing, so you can grab the ledge with a nade and have invincibility. Generally you want to camp until a percent, or get hit by enough jolts while camping so you can't get super **** grabbed.
I've always felt like as Snake players, we think he's not as good as others see him. However, when playing against Snake with other characters **** gets confusing fast, and you just make mistakes and that's in turn gets you punished hard, and you're just like what the **** this guy is broke. It's just looking at it from both views, I play a small bit of diddy and can see he's a great character, but someone like ADHD knows diddy like the back of his hand, and his judgment is probably pretty good on how good or bad diddy is.
Hi guys.
Infern Angelis
Smash Master
Do moves, and dont get hit. Those are my 2 tips right there. If u dont like them u can git out!
Darkshadow7827
Smash Lord
Automatically imagined the drunkards in south part and the way they said that. Can't find a vid to show you what I mean...
Infern Angelis
Smash Master
thats where it comes from lol
Darkshadow7827
Smash Lord
Ah, so I imagined it correctly then haha. I still wish I could a video to link it to though.