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Quest to Become the Best

JesiahTEG

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What's really cool about the last tournament combined with an old Melee smasher we used to play with coming back, and Chillin's thread, is that now everyone (4-5 ppl) in my area is really inspired to play again, and yesterday and today we've just been playing nonstop, today started off with best of 5 set money matches for a dollar. It's pretty fun just having at least 4 ppl playing all the time and trying to get better.
 

JesiahTEG

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Tuna- Ah, that sucks man. Keep the tech skill up though.

Riddle- You weren't at smash club dude

I'm feeling great about my game at this point. The more I play the more I see how I can better punish my opponent. My combos and edgeguards are becoming more deadly than ever, as I hardly mess them up at all anymore, with Marth, Sheik and Fox.

I'll almost always go Marth vs Fox in tournament because that's like, my best matchup, but after playing Fox dittos last night it was the first time I ever reconsidered LMAO Fox just ***** himself so bad. The thing that makes it really bad is that, if he drops a combo or messes up or something, he still has all the time in the world to tech chase his opponent. It's like, if you're fox and u grab fox, there's no reason he shouldn't die.

Edgeguaridng is so automatic in that matchup, I just keep it super simple and easy. The hardest thing is approaching/defending against a Fox that's on your level or above, or getting out of combos/di'ing the proper hits.

One thing that's annoying is that I can't Smash DI Fox's uairs or drills or shines with a consistency of 65% or more. The worst part is I'm always aware of it, I always attempt to but I don't always get it. Gotta figure out what's wrong when I'm not doing it right.

Oh also, can someone tell me how to CC grab properly? Because I try it and I can't get it. You use R and A right? Like, say Fox is falling down with a bair and I know that. I hold down and when he hits me, I press R and A...Is that how you do it?
 

ChivalRuse

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There are several ways. M2K recommends holding down, then right as you get hit pressing shield and *mashing* A.

I use that occasionally, though when I first started I liked jump cancelling my grab out of the CC.

One useful variant is to CC a move and still get the grab if they're out of your grab range. This happens often with getup attacks or ranged moves like Sheik's ftilt.

Example - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoC8dCg4l88#t=4m20s

You basically CC, LET GO of down, then dash forward and grab or JC grab.
 

JesiahTEG

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So basically I can't see myself ending up as anything besides the best Melee player. I think I've become so obsessed with the idea that even if it happens when I'm 80 I'll still be trying lol. just thought i'd share that because...well, idk.
 

P.C. Jona

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i wanna be the best too so watch out lol

youll be at rom right?

we should play mad friendlies
 

Druggedfox

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LOL

There needs to be a list of players who all plan on being the best =P Sounds like there are a bit too many getting in my way ;)
 

P.C. Jona

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haha

well new school is really coming up

like me and tfs

a little while back we were scrubs in tristate

but now were like

actually a threat to everybody lol

im getting close to beating ppl that ppl put in thread titles

just gotta step it up a lil more
 

Rubyiris

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@Jesiah: the moment you said a controller doesn't make a big difference, i stopped reading and immediately discredited you as bad.
 

Druggedfox

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"Another thing too, that controller I was breaking in...If I actually ended up using that, Tuna would have beaten me 6-0, I guarantee it. It's horrible right now, until it becomes less stiff."
 

Divinokage

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haha

well new school is really coming up

like me and tfs

a little while back we were scrubs in tristate

but now were like

actually a threat to everybody lol

im getting close to beating ppl that ppl put in thread titles

just gotta step it up a lil more
LOL

There needs to be a list of players who all plan on being the best =P Sounds like there are a bit too many getting in my way ;)
So basically I can't see myself ending up as anything besides the best Melee player. I think I've become so obsessed with the idea that even if it happens when I'm 80 I'll still be trying lol. just thought i'd share that because...well, idk.
Very interesting, I love this fire that's growing and blazing stronger. But remember this, you are all also fighting other people like me that's trying to overcome the world. =)

There will be hell at RoM 3, I can garantee you guys that, I'm gonna punish so hard that no one is going to believe Ganon can do **** like that. =D
 

JesiahTEG

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@Jesiah: the moment you said a controller doesn't make a big difference, i stopped reading and immediately discredited you as bad.
lol i never said that dude, in fact quite the opposite. controllers make all the difference

he never said that lol

he said the opposite

lrn2read

@ chivalruse

lol
word, let em know jona

Very interesting, I love this fire that's growing and blazing stronger. But remember this, you are all also fighting other people like me that's trying to overcome the world. =)

There will be hell at RoM 3, I can garantee you guys that, I'm gonna punish so hard that no one is going to believe Ganon can do **** like that. =D
Oh yeah I have a lot of people IM'ing me telling me that they think I'll be the best or very close within 6 months to a year, and I tell them that just because I have a thread documenting my growth doesn't mean there aren't other people doing the exact same thing as me, so it's impossible to tell really.

It really is crazy how once you become obsessed with an idea, how much it takes over. I don't really go out to the clubs anymore when people ask me, in fact I don't really leave my room haha.

If anyone's seen Inuyasha I kind of almost feel like that if that makes sense. I mean, where one of the main characters, Kagome, has two worlds to travel between. I feel like playing Melee is another world to me now, one where I am slowly starting to prefer to the "real world" and where I feel more at home if that's even possible. (Don't worry I'm not going crazy, I still **** @ my job and hang out with ppl every now and then haha.)

Seriously though, the minute I get home the gamecube goes on, and even if I'm too tired to think of anything to consciously practice, I just practice my movement. In my head, every video I see of a pro doing anything, there's no excuse for me not to be able to play/move like that. Not exactly like them, but just have the ability to do what they do.

I played literally all weekend. From the time I woke up on Friday which was like at Nine until the time I went to bed which was like 3 AM I think. Same thing on Saturday and same thing on Sunday, although Sunday I woke up at like noon and played only till like 2 AM. There's breaks in there for food and stuff, but I always have the urge to be on the TV.

When you play that much, in addition to consciously practicing stuff, you just learn more random stuff that's really useful. Like with all of that time to practice I don't have to worry about doing "perfect" death combos 100% of the time. I mean, I practice them but sometimes I just go into "freeflow" mode, and when I start comboing I just go with it. I don't think about what's the lowest percent to kill them at, or when to switch from combo to tech chase. I just go with it, and the result is some pretty crazy and interesting stuff.

One cool thing I did near the edge, Marth vs Fox on FD, when Fox was at like 60% was Uthrow and he didn't DI so I spiked him down to the ground. He tech rolled into the stage and since I fastfell the Dair, by the time I landed he was right in front of me so I regrabbed, uthrow, reverse fair to spike.

Reverse fair to spike is actually kinda old now, but it's cool how I did the uthrow to dair tech chase first haha.

Another thing that happens when you play so much is that nothing really becomes hard to do anymore. Everything that you see in tournaments that people go hype over is just stuff that I do or stuff that happens like every match. It's not boring by any means, but the more I play the more I realize how human everyone is.

I think I created a mental block for myself starting a long time ago, when I started playing in December of 07. I saw matches of Ken and Isai and Azen and Chillen and since they were "professional MLG players" I thought they were unhuman, and it was just a childish dream to try and get to that level. Also I have so much respect and admiration for skill in Melee, when someone is really really good I used to tend to worship them lol, like "Oh man if I can only get to that level."

That reminds me of when Raynex told me a funny story. He's like "Yeah, at Pound was like my first huge OOS tourney and when I saw I had Zelgadis in my pool I ran to my friends and I was like OH **** ZELGADIS GUYS A LEGEND...Then I ended up 4 stocking him and I'm like wtf..." LOL yeah, just goes to show anyone can beat anyone.

When I play now, most of the time every game feels like some sort of Xbox 360 achievement with real value to it. What I mean by that is, I just try to play perfect, as close to a JV 5 stock as possible.

We start in neutral, and the first step is to outsmart them. Once I outsmart them once, then it's time for them to die. Either death combo or combo until they get out, then keep the pressure on for a psuedo combo. An example is if someone techs on a platform where you can't get to them, predicting what they're going to do Out of Shield and continuing the slaughter. Then the edgeguard until they die.

It's just "How perfect can I be this match?"

Oh another thing that has actually helped my mindset. I used to play Basketball and other sports before Smash. I was really good at sports, like, abnormally good. A prodigy if you will. :) Haha, but seriously it just came so easily to me. No one could ever touch me even in high school.

When I came across Smash I wasn't naturally good. I just got ***** for so long. Having had an immense amount of talent in athletics, it's not like Smash where you have to practice everything like a science. You just play a lot and figure stuff out, at least that's what it's like to me. So, I never had a way to really "learn" Smash, which is what I felt held my growth back a lot in the beginning.

One thing was that I always got super pissed or angry when I messed up a combo or an edgeguard or something. I realized I had to stop that because even the best players mess up sometimes. I looked back to basketball as an answer.

Immediately when I think of Basketball, no matter what state I'm in I just feel confident, like no one can **** with me. Even if I'm walking home in the rain if I think about Basketball I just feel good and confident. So I'm like, "How do I replicate this feeling in Smash?" well, let me get more specific. "What used to happen when I missed a shot in Basketball?"

My answer was instant: Get the rebound immediately. There was no getting angry or upset with myself. Those thoughts never occurred, it was just, get the ball back and win.

I think that's how it has to be in Smash. If you **** something up, you regain position/control and begin the **** once more. I asked myself another question: "When (very rarely mind you) someone pulled a sick move on me and scored, what did I do?"

The answer again was simple...Just get the ball back and score.

That's the only thing that matters. Nerves come into play because I either feel like I don't deserve to be at the top level, or because big name players just intimidate you. You want to be good, you want people to see the results of your hard work, so inside when you play in front of people or a good player you just want to play your best, so that's what you're thinking about.

In reality, you've got to get as close to the feeling you get when you play a friendly with your friends. Take it more seriously in the actual game, don't **** around trying to do cool **** or fancy edgeguards or stuff, but don't feel pressured. If you've practiced enough chances are you've done anything you're going to do in tournament a thousand times over, there's just one difference: Now it matters.

If I could put it as simply as possible, I will say that those three words are the lone barrier to what separates someone from playing their best and playing nervous in tourney: Now it matters.
 

JesiahTEG

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I just found my old Myspace from when I was like 17, and there's a blog post from like the first month I started playing Melee, when I decided to get serious. Haha, it's so funny reading my innocent dreams of becoming the best, without realizing how much work it was going to take. You guys should read it, it's really interesting to me at least.

www.myspace.com/eveofmorse

The blog is to the right called, future life of a gamer. And underneath that if you care was my sexy gf at the time :-P

Edit: Why don't I just copy and past the relevant parts of that post here to make it easier? Lol i'm dumb.

Most of the time it's hard finding something to write about. This time, though, it's different. Lately people have been asking me the same question over and over; "what do you want to do when you get out of high school?" I'm getting sick of answering to everybody, so I'm gonna tell everyone that wants to see what is happening in my life right now, and what i plan to happen later on. It's gonna take a while, so grab some mountain dew so you won't have to get up...Wear a diaper too, so you don't have to go to the bathroom.

Right now, I go to school. I attend Alternative High in Fairport as a senior for half a day, and my other half is spent at Eastern Monroe Career Center, located across the street from my high school. EMCC is awesome. I take web development, and attend to duties like showing kids around on visitation days, presenting the issue of internet safety to the public, and representing my school at developmental assets conventions.

I also hold a job at NASA as an astronaut. Job duties include going to mars in search of aliens. What I found is far worse...Transformers...Oops, thats my...other...job... My real job is at Wegmans as a cashier. I work as little as I can, mainly because I hate working. I've been in need of money lately though, so I've been working a bit more lately.

Ok, that should take care of the boring stuff. Now on to the main entertainment. A few weeks/ months ago, I can't remember which, I realized something. I play video games a lot. Some say too much, but I never listen to those people. I also realized something else. I am very good at videogames. I'm not saying I'm the best, but I am saying I am full of talent. I have been blessed by whatever entity rules upon us with quick reflexes, great hand eye coordination, and intelligence. These three things help make a strong gamer. Do you see where I'm going with this?

Videogames have been a hobby and my main extracurricular activity since I was 4, but lately I've been viewing them more as a way of life. So I decided to take a risk. I'm making the switch from casual gaming to competetive gaming. What's the difference? Why is it a risk? Read on my friends. The answer you seek lies ahead.

The game I play is called Super Smash Brothers Melee, for the Nintendo Gamecube. The next installment in the series is being released on the Wii soon, so expect me to get a Wii. SSBM is a fighting game, containing all of Nintendo's most popular characters. The game is very popular for a few reasons. First off, anyone can pick this game up and have a blast with it. It's simple. Guys, girls, kids, grandparents, anyone can play it. You pick a character, and fight. It's fun. If anyone can play this game and tell me they are not having fun...I don't know, then you just suck. Second, this game is considered the ultimate party game. Up to 4 people can play, either as a free for all, or a team battle. Literally hours can be played with 4 people without getting bored. But looking past the kiddish, simple, party like aspects of the game, lies one of the deepest, most complex and involving fighting games ever created.

I used to play this game with my friends. We would play according to the rules of the game. All of the basic techniques we had mastered. I was at the top of my game; or so I thought. In reality I was an expert casual gamer. I had no idea what lied beyond the world of casual gaming. Recently I got back into the game and decided to look some stuff up for it online. What I discovered was far more than I could have possibly imagined. The first thing I discovered was that this game was one of two games hosted by MLG (Major League Gaming) over 200,000 dollars was being given out as prize money throughout the 2006 season. I thought "wow, I'm a master at this game, I should get into this." I was wrong. Very wrong. I decided to watch some videos of professional players. My first video I was blown away. I just couldn't figure out how these people were moving their characters so fast. It seemed beyond the programming of the game. I figured out later that I was correct. It was beyond the programming of the game.

Throughout the six years that SSBM has been around, people have discovered things that the creators of the game didn't even know. Glitches that allowed people to move at incredible speeds. I decided to look up how these glitches work, and maybe practice a few. As a casual gamer, to perform an attack I used one button. I found out that in the world of competitive gaming. to perform an effective attack, five buttons must be pressed, with exact timing in the perfect order. I soon realized that this was not the worst of it. This game, if played to the fullest, pushes all aspects of human capabilities to the maximum. Also, the mental aspects of this game were insane. Half of the game is outthinking your opponent, something that requires a lot of experience and intelligence. I realized that anyone that lacks the intelligence will not be successful in this game. It seemed like a hard challenge, but I was up for it. Definitely.

I decided to start by seeking out the best players in Rochester. I had heard of a local gaming center known as Arena 51. I went to their website, created a name for myself, and started a post on the forums. I called out to everyone at Arena, and my post simply told people I was a new smash player looking for a challenge. I quickly found out that the best player there was a person named Goodies, AKA Kelvin. I recieved challenges from the whole community at Arena, and my post sooned turn into the largest post ever on Arena 51.com, with over 4000 views and 400 posts. I practiced a lot for the first time I went to Arena, so I wouldn't lose and be humiliated. I went to a Lock in there, and saw Kelving playing a 4 player match. I asked if I could get in the next game without telling him who I was. Remember, the first step in my plan to become a professional gamer was to defeat the top player in Rochester. And now here I am, facing the person I sought to defeat.

So i played him. We each had four lives. At the end of the match, I had 0 lives and Kelvin had 3. I was expecting to lose to him, but not that bad. I realized I had a long way to go and a lot of practicing to do. To make a long story short, me and Kelvin are good friends now, and we practice together about 10-15 hours a week minimum. Right now I'd consider myself within the top 15 players in Rochester. Probably top 10. My main goal right now is to take down the Xepher Crew, a SSBM team in Rochester. In order to do that, I need to practice. To practice I need to get to Arena 51. To get there, I need money to pay for the fees. Arena is expensive, so right now I'm seeking a sponsorship with a few local companies. It's looking pretty good so far.

The next step is to compete at the national level. I'm planning on attending a few huge tournaments this year. I'm not expecting to win, but I'm expecting to learn a lot and make a lot of new friends. Hopefully in the summer I can take off time from work and travel around the country, staying at professional player's houses. The good thing about the SSBM community is that everyone is part of a big family. It's common for people to make friends across the country and spend time with them.


The red part is the blog obviously.

Edit again: I just looked at my pictures cuz I look so funny with such long hair...looking at the comments from all the girls, little jesse was such a pimp LOL now I just sit home and play melee all day. lol funnyyy
 

SnowMan

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My answer was instant: Get the rebound immediately. There was no getting angry or upset with myself. Those thoughts never occurred, it was just, get the ball back and win.

I think that's how it has to be in Smash. If you **** something up, you regain position/control and begin the **** once more. I asked myself another question: "When (very rarely mind you) someone pulled a sick move on me and scored, what did I do?"

The answer again was simple...Just get the ball back and score.
Definitely going to use this a lot. Whenever I **** up once or get ****ed up, it's game over for me.
 

Pi

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you're all scrubs
you can't be the best
i'm gonna be the best

seriously don't even bother, you aint got **** on me
 

Pi

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Everyone that wants to be a champion says that.

i'm not everyone kage, i can do it, i'm gonna wreck anyone who stands in my way and i'll be the best

i know what it takes and i know how to achieve it, i got this, and i'm gonna talk **** all the way there
 

M@1funk$hun

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this is gonna be a weird analogy
but SWD comes in here talkin trash and sayin he's gonna be the best
then Jesiah makes civil posts and is legitimately determined to be the best but without putting anyone else down

so my analogy is SWD is gary oak
and jesiahteg is Ash Catchem
 

Divinokage

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i'm not everyone kage, i can do it, i'm gonna wreck anyone who stands in my way and i'll be the best

i know what it takes and i know how to achieve it, i got this, and i'm gonna talk **** all the way there
Sure but you sound like you already there when you've got a long way to go. If you really think like that you are essentially destroying your own potential because you think you are already perfect. Don't play mindtricks to yourself, it's all in the mind.. everything.. even physical training or whatever goal you have, be realistic. Like I said before, you are also fighting people like me that want to cleave everyone in half.

Maybe when I was 16 in those myspace pics :-P I look a lot different now I think.

Also Kage, just wanna let you know I appreciate your input in this thread. Very very good.
Well thank you, I think it's nice to have threads like this. A LOT if not MOST people need something or someone that they can look up upon. You know like a superhero so to speak. I'm positive it's possible to do things normal people cannot even begin to conceive because they've been conditioned to do otherwise. So ya, it's definitely needed for inspiration and to unlock the mind... we have so much untapped potential it's crazy.

Also, I wrote a decently long message that is pretty much relevant to this thread because Stingers asked me what kind of training did I do in smash to arrive where I am now.. so here it is.. If you have any more specific questions about this then ask. =)



Well ever since the game out, a rivalry started with me and my friend at school because since I was ok at smash 64 I thought I could destroy him at melee (When I only played it once or twice before). And then I fought him for the first time at his place and he annihilated me.

From there I got seriously aggravated and I really wanted to beat him.. it took me about 1000 games before I won 1 game vs him. (Used to play Link/Samus back then and my friend was using Samus also with Falcon) And then when I actually felt some glory with all the efforts I put through to beat him, I played more to increase my consistency. (Note also I went to his place everyday after school and tried to beat him for 3-4 hours, lol)

And then at some point, I watched a few vids like from DBR and Triforce of power.. and I was like: Yo Ganon is totally my style! And I started fighting with him just a little bit before my first tournament. I realized there were tournaments only by my friend's brother who mentioned smashboards and I thought it would be awesome to test our skills and we honestly thought we could win.

So we went and I got my *** kicked and so did our whole group pretty much. I think in teams we got 5th for our first tournament which isn't too bad.

However, that just made me more hungry.. so we've kept fighting while paying attention to the newly advanced techniques we learned like wavedashing and even shield grabbing i didnt even know what that was before. We kept going to 3-4 tournaments and all the time I got 17th-25th on average in locals! So I realized.. am i really getting better from all this experience? Where am I now? Why do I suck so much?

So then, when my friends did not want to play as much anymore, I basically ran after the top players all the time wanting to fight them.. and once again I kept getting ***** x1000000 times this time before I could actually manage to keep up with not so many mistakes. During those times, I developed a friendship with the top players here and I always played with them a lot! When we were practicing it was at least 10-16 hours even sometimes haha.

In details, they made me realize my patterns that I had.. like I always did the same thing after I killed someone or I do the same thing from the ledge like rolling a lot.. or just hitting my partner in teams, umm.. bad positioning on the platforms, I learned how to CC effectively, I learned how to space correctly like when someone approaches you, you go backwards and if he goes backwards, you go forward. I also developed decent reaction time with relatively basic scenarios. And then once I had every basic thing down, it was the beginning of superior mix-ups and mindgames... this is something that cannot be taught, it comes from you and your mind. How do you react to situations? =P

So from there, I started doing wayy better and pulling a lot of upsets in here and Toronto, I was managing to win vs the old top players and gaining a solid 5th spot in the PR.

This is all before I went out of province. In summary, you HAVE to be determined to play hours on end a lot of times during the week and keep getting your face destroyed before you understand what exactly is going on. You have to break your own predictable patterns and not worry about yourself anymore. GRIND A LOT (VS opponents preferably because you learn how to use advanced techniques effectively.. they become skillful movements with purpose, I have also never owned a gamecube nor smash so I have never ever practiced by myself even to this day, this is also why I played the top players a lot, I basically harrassed them to play me so I can get better haha)

Now my first Out of province was Pound 3.. and this basically was the beginning where I became really hungry for the top spot.. I really wanted to win, and do the impossible with Ganon... I wanted to become someone strong and reliable. I wanted to be an icon of power. Goals like that don't come randomly, it's through determination that an important goal can be forged.. you have to always look forward and keep growing. With all that said, you must always have a reachable goal to keep motivated even in life. Even if it's easy goals, once you reach it then create another tougher goal to level up. Like that you can never stop and you become someone with amazing potential.

So ya the US for me in the beginning was indeed a whole new level, I had to relearn everything all over again so from Pound 3 I went to probably at least 10 tournaments in the US to get better even more. I wanted to pull those upsets and that nothing can stop me. I think it took a long time but it was definitely worth it.. all those tournaments...
 

SnowMan

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That was a good read, Kage.


Jesse, I honestly would not be taking Smash like I have been these past few months if it weren't for you. I remember you talking about a goal to make our region, a power region. And when I felt like no one else seemed as determined as you, that set me off to push to try harder, when I watch videos from HMW's youtube channel, I think of our region doing that, being that well known and possibly feared. I want that so bad for our region and I know we can do it.

I've always had a love for Smash, since the 64 days, was the neighborhood's best (Wha'z good?). I knew how to do advance techniques and such, stopped by at Battle for Western, NY, realized how much I sucked at a competitivly level. That threw me off, I would go to tournaments, hardly played friendlies (I'm pretty sure I played you once before I got to know you), never entered them and played with Kelvin every now and then. I was socially awkward and afraid of being made fun of. it took a while, but you guys showed me this whole new level, that I never thought I would be able to jump on. RoM3 is only days away and I never once thought I would ever attend such a tournament. I'm way too excited for it.

Now, I'm addicted. Addicted to winning, addicted to growing, addicted to learning, etc. Being able to beat Burak half the time after he could consistently 3 stock me then beating Steffon, even though he really wasn't playing his best that night, really hit me to notice my improvement and it made my addiction stronger.

I know I'm still a big time scrub, but I thought I'd let you know how determined I actually am and that you're helping me bring that out and the rest of our region as well helps. I'm really trying hard to get up to another level. For crying out loud, I'm not even in our honorable mentions for our PRs yet. Lol.

You're a big inspiration to me and I'm pumped on how far you're going and I hope I can get up there with you one day.
 

Dr Peepee

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Couldn't hurt to post my response to Stingers' PM too I guess. =p





I never really had much of a training partner aside from Twitch(my now 14 year old brother) and occasionally Ali(good Falcon) and Peter(Marth/Falcon main) an hour+ away from me. Matchup experience was always limited, and people experience was arguably worse. Thing is, when you're a victim of circumstance, the last thing on your mind should be that circumstance. Whining to yourself about who you have or where you are doesn't get you any better and it doesn't help you feel good. It only holds you back even more than the circumstances do. People that want to be successful will be successful.

The lack of people actually helped in a strange way. There were no ridiculous biases that could cloud my judgment, there were no ridiculous pro-worshiping people that made me want to compare myself to them and get down, there were also no people that told me I was amazing and built me up(I had to wait for over 2 years of playing before I was praised at all by my own state....some people quit because they hated the way I played in fact).

When you play another person at a tournament or a fest that isn't your training partner, you should be excited. Here is someone that doesn't know your habits and you get to learn theirs. You get the chance to test out your ideas on minds that have no idea about what you want to do, giving you good grounds to prove what works and what doesn't. If you sit down to play someone and think they suck, then you're wasting combo practice. If you think they're going to **** you and get discouraged, then you give up learning to tighten up your game and DI/survival practice. If you focus only on beating your rival/person close in skill to you, then you give up on playing to learn....for the sake of your own ego. Humble yourself and realize that all of your endeavors in such friendlies/tourney matches will pay off later on down the road. Look at the long term. Look at how much you have improved and realize you can keep on doing this for yourself.

Well, I'm a little ahead of myself now. If you have a training partner like I did, then you should love it to death and really appreciate them. Help them get better, tell them your habits and their habits so you can both push each other to new heights. Think about it, you want the best training experience you can get. Why would you want to keep secrets from someone who you're supposed to be improving with? Even if it means they start beating you, remember that you can always catch up, and it will pay off that much more against those who aren't ready for your new tactics. That's how I played with Twitch, I told him my habits and his habits and I enjoyed watching his playstyle evolve to counter mine. It has pushed me incredibly far and helps me realize how much farther I have to go.

When you hit a plateau, there are so many ways to get around it. Play more characters(which also benefits you because you can learn how to beat those characters by trying to be successful with them), force yourself to play differently/creatively(expands your mind to all of the possibilities that these games can offer you and gives you a fresh perspective on an old problem), or maybe even take a break from playing(I heard your mind keeps working on a problem subconsciously even if you move on, so if nothing else you get to stop being frustrated for a bit....but maybe you'll solve the issue without knowing it haha). I've used all of these strategies as well as sometimes just bulldozing through them(sort of using sheer motivation to not get locked down in one way of thought or keeping myself from being angry/frustrated uselessly with an issue).

When you have johns for a loss, don't focus on the johns. Instead, use that drive so that you're even more tight when the rematch occurs. It makes your victory more likely and will make it harder for your opponent to catch up.

When you get to be at a tournament with someone good you don't see often(out of region or otherwise), make the most of it! Pros aren't different than normal people, and you better believe me when I say I was shameless when I asked Chops to play me a ton at HERB 2 when I finally got to play him. Ask for advice in chunks though. If you dump a ton of questions on someone at once, it seems as though you don't want to learn or can't let some pieces of information sink in before going for more. It's just off-putting.

One of the MOST IMPORTANT things you can remember though, is never think you're always ahead of those you've beaten. ESPECIALLY those you've newly beaten/only beaten once. You have an off day, they have a good day, the crowd is more for them or against you, they study your videos religiously for months while you laze around thinking you only have to worry about those ahead of you, that WILL come back on you. Guaranteed. It happened to me after RoM2. That was when I finally got my name out there as an up-and-comer for a top spot by taking out numerous big names in tournament and placing 2nd. Guess what? I got pretty cocky afterward. Anyone remember how I did at pound 4, a couple months later? Not nearly as impressive, a mere 9th I believe. My losses humbled me soundly, especially since one of those was to Lucky, a player who I had taken out on my way to fame at RoM2. After that tournament, I have always observed how other players are advancing and prepare adequately for ALL of my potential problem-matchups, no matter how many times I've beaten them. If they can get close ever, then they are worth always preparing for. The worst feeling in the world is shooting extremely high and feeling prepared for the big dogs, only to lose to someone you had beaten last local/regional/major who was out for blood that you "know you can beat."

Finally, don't let what others say get to you. If you hear/read an opinion on you that you don't agree with, then who cares? Unless you're mango or hungrybox and have proven yourselves over and over and over and over and over for your spots, then there WILL be disagreement about how good you are. Instead of being mad at anyone who disagrees with your own opinion, get motivated to prove them wrong! Train harder, think more, study longer. Know that all of your tools are in front of you, and it's all on YOU to make yourself seen as skilled as you want to be seen. Other people can only look at what YOU've done, and if YOU haven't done well enough to impress everyone, then YOU still have work to do.

Oh yeah, one more thing: set goals. Not necessarily crazy stuff like "I wanna be the best ______ main in the world!" but maybe something like "I wanna make the state PRs!" or "I wanna beat this guy who's better than me!" Having a closer, more tangible goal is always good motivation, and it really helps you mark your progress down the road. I wanted to beat Ali for about the first year and a half that I played, and while I was trading sets with him after about a year, it wasn't until the next half year passed that I was undeniably better than. Those days of training on red Falcon and playing with Ali and imagining scenarios to beat(edeguarding/comboing/approaching/pressuring/everything) finally paid off. LoZR came afterward without me even trying really hard because I just trained on Twitch's Fox to win.





I know that most of my stuff has been more of a "do this, not that" instead of a "this is how I trained," but to be honest, my training isn't going to work for everyone else. You know what does apply to pretty much everyone? The principles I just listed. Some more than others, but they all came into play in some powerful way over the course of my smash career living at least an hour from any competition(3.5 hours from tourneys).



Now then, you've seen how I tick sort of and how I work. I want anyone that gets to read this to know that I believe I have no natural talent for this game and have only succeeded like I have through my hard work. I legitimately believe that pretty much anyone who reads this can improve greatly by taking to heart what I have to write, as it's all straight from several years of experience and personal reflection. It's because I want to prove to all of you that you CAN do it, and that you all can do it if I can.

Work hard and stay focused on your work. If I could sum this all up in one sentence, it would be that. Take it from someone who plays the strangest, yet somehow effective Falco in existence: it really is that simple. Don't lose sight of your dreams, and I'll see you at the top! =)
 
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