[Project] Troll Brawl Smash Mod

[MonkUnit]

For sonic, make his running really fast so you might die by running for more than a second but make his walking REALLY slow.

 

[ElDominio]

And make MK quack for neutral B.

And DEFINENTLY include this skin for stock MK:

 

[Ecks]

I've got a few ideas for this :D

-Shields randomly break. (please do this one :D)
-make smash attacks's charge time infinite.
-if possible, make the ai take control of human characters for a few seconds randomly.
-Give Fox Falco's lasers, but keep the rapidfire.

 

[ryuu seika]

@ElDomino & M0nk: I'm liking where this sonic idea is going. Ultra fast dash, regular walking speed, traction of Luigi and attacks and speech at double speed.

WTF at the Falco thing though. I don't see any reason why not but that seems insane!

Quack? I'm loving that skin though...

@Ecks: Random shield breaks seems like a good one. Do we still keep shield shrinkage over time or replace that outright?

I presume infinite charge leads to infinite strength? If so, why not?

AI control should be event based rather than random IMO.

As for lasers, I don't see why not. Goes well with the bob-oms for Falco mod.

 

[ElDominio]

@ElDomino & M0nk: I'm liking where this sonic idea is going. Ultra fast dash, regular walking speed, traction of Luigi and attacks and speech at double speed.

WTF at the Falco thing though. I don't see any reason why not but that seems insane!

Quack? I'm loving that skin though...

@Ecks: Random shield breaks seems like a good one. Do we still keep shield shrinkage over time or replace that outright?

I presume infinite charge leads to infinite strength? If so, why not?

AI control should be event based rather than random IMO.

As for lasers, I don't see why not. Goes well with the bob-oms for Falco mod.

Here's where I got the idea for a gun shooting bombs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6s-7yJf3XQ#t=00m52

About the MK quacking... I mean like doing a wierd noise... maybe some odd noise included in Brawl (since Tornado = gay i was thinking a gay noise lol)

I'd say infinite shield with shield break at random.

In fact, that should be the scope of Troll Brawl.
Brawl- gave us balance through breakage, so to make this one very different (since I'm sure some people see this as another Brawl-), make it is a random as possible.

It's random Sakurai wants? We'll show them HOW /b/ A GAME CAN BE!

 

[MonkUnit]

Troll Brawl is now known as Project 4Chan

 

[Ecks]

@Ecks: Random shield breaks seems like a good one. Do we still keep shield shrinkage over time or replace that outright?

I presume infinite charge leads to infinite strength? If so, why not?

AI control should be event based rather than random IMO.

As for lasers, I don't see why not. Goes well with the bob-oms for Falco mod.

-Either of, probably making the shrinkage slower and give shields a 40% chance of breaking on imput. You press L/R to guard and...Boom! you're defenseless lol

- YES. This would make for some killer landmines lol

-I got the AI idea from testing a few mugen characters a long time ago and they suddenly taking over. trust me this is very annoying.

- :D

And another idea, make it so when Sheik/Zelda use down b they stay the same.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Nonono.

Other projects add IASA for the transform. To make it safe.

In Troll Brawl, when Sheik/Zelda down-B, they should immediately go to their shield break after the transformation.

 

[ElDominio]

Troll Brawl is now known as Project 4Chan

4chawl?
Trawl?

Super Smash Brothers Trawl

 

[ryuu seika]

Bob-om Lasers: Still don't really get but who cares, it sounds stupid enough.

Quacking: I think the quack works best. Plus, it's apparently more funny than moo...

Shield Break: I think random only is best. That way you could hold it forever if you're really lucky but the longer you hold it the more likely it is to break. I'm wondering what we're going to do with jumps though, now that both moving and blocking are unsafe. Maybe just go back to the infinite jumps code for lols.

AI control: It depends how doable it is but maybe.

Sheik/Zelda Transformations: Why not make them become random characters?

 

[ElDominio]

Bob-om Lasers: Still don't really get but who cares, it sounds stupid enough.

Quacking: I think the quack works best. Plus, it's apparently more funny than moo...

Shield Break: I think random only is best. That way you could hold it forever if you're really lucky but the longer you hold it the more likely it is to break. I'm wondering what we're going to do with jumps though, now that both moving and blocking are unsafe. Maybe just go back to the infinite jumps code for lols.

AI control: It depends how doable it is but maybe.

Sheik/Zelda Transformations: Why not make them become random characters?

#1, #2, #3 agreed

Shelda transformations can even make you turn into an alloy... that would be funny

Really, think about what I said... I think getting the most randomness into the game as possible would make this "Troll Brawl" really shine.
Any character that have a random anything, make it even more random.
And try to add randomness to everything.

Also, I think it should embrace items, since they are also quite random.
lol bombombs spawn in front of a charging fsmash ftw

 

[ryuu seika]

One of the main ideas behind this is that items should be permanently stuck on the highest setting, all on. I can't really say anymore because the "Friday World" theme messes up my eyes so I can't read and the chat censoring of things has me completely confused.

Ok, now that that april fool's rubbish is over, I can modify the suggestions list a little:

Universal Changes

Tripping rate increased to 64x normal
Pressing Taunt Kills You.
Hitstun removed.
Melee air dodge system adopted.
Respawn Invincibility removed.
Stop Watch freezes game indefinitely.
Stage Friction is minimal.
Rumble occurs late.
Stickers, CDs, Trophies and Bananas explode on contact.
Bob-Oms and Motion Sensor Bombs cause tripping.
Items can't be turned off.
Ledges can't be grabbed.
Random Select always picks Pichu* on Pokemon Stadium 2.
Stages scroll in reverse.
Shields last indefinitely but have a chance to break at any moment.
The AI takes control of players briefly at random moments.
There is no limit to the power boost charging moves can grant.
All characters are magnetically attracted to eachother.

*Pichu takes Pikachu's spot on the roster and looks the same on the select screen.

Some Character Specific Changes

Bowser... <suggest> :random:
Captain Falcon shouts "Falcooon Puunch!" for every move.
Diddy Kong's jetpack causes tripping when it hits players, even in the air.
Donkey Kong... <suggest> :random:
Falco shoots Bob-oms rather than lasers.
Fox has Falco's old lasers with added rapid fire.
Ganondorf's neutral B is a super tornado.
Nana looks like Popo and Popo looks like Nana (model swap for ICs).
Ike fights with a Pow Hammer rather than a sword, with sounds to match.
Jigglypuff's up B sends the TV screen to sleep (if possible).
King Dedede spits with infinite strength.
Kirby's Copy ability KOs (doesn't copy) and his Utilt has an insane hitbox range.
Links Final Smash keeps hitting until you stop holding the B button.
Lucario... <suggest> :random:
Ness and Lucas' PK Starstorms rain starmen instead of damaging.
Lucas' PK Freeze spawns Freezies.
Luigi misfires 7 out of 8 times, rather than 1 in 8.
Mario... <suggest> :random:
Marth... <suggest> :random:
Controls for all players are inverted during Metaknight's B moves and his neutral B makes a "quack" noise.
Mr.Game&Watch's forward B mostly hits nines and ones and will occasionally be replaced by a Pow Hammer or even a golden Super Hammer.
Olimar... <suggest> :random:
Peach does not pull up turnips, but Smash Balls.
Pikachu is replaced by a worse version of Pichu (see above).
Pit... <suggest> :random:
Squirtle... <suggest> :random:
Ivysaur's Bullet Seed hits once per frame.
Charizard... <suggest> :random:
ROB... <suggest> :random:
Samus... <suggest> :random:
Snake's grenades are Pokeballs.
Sonic's speed is doubled (including speech), apart from his dash which is 8x normal and his walking which is unchanged.
Toon Link's... <suggest> :random:
Wario... <suggest> :random:
Wolf... <suggest> :random:
Yoshi... <suggest> :random:
Zelda and Sheik transform into random characters, rather than eachother.
Zero Suit Samus... <suggest> :random:

Some Stage Specific Changes

Final Destination tilts and flips.

 

[ElDominio]

My takes

Universal Changes

Tripping rate increased to 64x normal <- yes
Pressing Taunt Kills You. <- no, makes taunting useless and gay, but definently make it do something wierd
Hitstun removed. - k would be would but sure
Melee air dodge system adopted. - sure
Respawn Invincibility removed. - sure
Stop Watch freezes game indefinitely. -k?
Stage Friction is minimal. - yes
Rumble occurs late. - YES
Stickers, CDs, Trophies and Bananas explode on contact. _ LOL
Bob-Oms and Motion Sensor Bombs cause tripping. _YES
Items can't be turned off. _meh
Ledges can't be grabbed. -odd, can't we make a pitfall spawn (or a bomb omb) spawn on it while active (so it spike kills people)
Random Select always picks Pichu* on Pokemon Stadium 2. -k
Stages scroll in reverse. -k
Shields last indefinitely but have a chance to break at any moment. -YES
The AI takes control of players briefly at random moments. - cool
There is no limit to the power boost charging moves can grant. - yes
All characters are magnetically attracted to eachother. - i think this would be implausible

*Pichu takes Pikachu's spot on the roster and looks the same on the select screen.

Some Character Specific Changes (remember what I said about random)

Bowser... flamethrower hat 1 frame hitboxes, doesnt discharge, effect changes
Captain Falcon I think he should say "YES!" for everything that doesnt have a sound
Diddy Kong's jetpack causes tripping when it hits players, even in the air, has a random chance of like ultra-misfire that shoots you off the top.
Donkey Kong... maybe... down B makes bombs ombs start spawning at random
Falco shoots Bob-oms rather than lasers.
Fox has Falco's old lasers with added rapid fire.
Ganondorf's neutral B is a super tornado.
Nana looks like Popo and Popo looks like Nana (model swap for ICs), ice blocks do random effects, even OHKO.
Ike fights with a Pow Hammer rather than a sword, with sounds to match.
Jigglypuff's up B sends the TV screen to sleep (not possible obviously).
I propose making sing stage wide (only dodgable in the air), down b is disjointed, but has really lame effectts (TROLOLOLOLOL)
King Dedede spits with infinite strength.
Kirby's Copy ability KOs (doesn't copy) and his Utilt has an insane hitbox range.
Links Final Smash keeps hitting until you stop holding the B button. His down B can make you blast off the top
Lucario... Neutral B makes items start spawning in front of him
Ness and Lucas' PK Starstorms rain starmen instead of damaging.
Lucas' PK Freeze spawns Freezies.
Ness neutral B charges to an insane size, and insane fast
Luigi misfires 7 out of 8 times, rather than 1 in 8.
Mario... FIREBALL MACHINE GUN OF DEATH
Marth...sword has pitiful range but deals ridiculous damage and knockback
Controls for all players are inverted during Metaknight's B moves and his neutral B makes a "quack" noise. LOL
Mr.Game&Watch's forward B mostly hits nines and ones and will occasionally be replaced by a Pow Hammer or even a golden Super Hammer.
Olimar... Neutral B plucks items, NO PIKMIN FOR LOLIMAR
Peach does not pull up turnips, but random items.
Pikachu is replaced by a worse version of Pichu (see above).
Pit... fires the wierd beam ROB has with much larger hitboxes that just deal tripping and 1% damage
Squirtle... withdraw hurts, a lot
Ivysaur's Bullet Seed hits once per frame.
Charizard... rock smash makes a huge explosion that even hurts charizard
ROB... SideB is almost a tornado
Samus... unavoidable guided missi\kes
Snake's grenades are Pokeballs.
Sonic's speed is doubled (including speech), apart from his dash which is 8x normal and his walking which is unchanged.
Toon Link's... upb is huge and always trips
Wario... forever power fart, with planting flowers
Wolf... laser 3 shot machine gun
Yoshi... i hate him
Zelda and Sheik transform into random characters, rather than eachother.
Zero Suit Samus... upb lasts five frames

Some Stage Specific Changes

Final Destination tilts and flips.

Idk what is possible but i removed some clearly impossible, I think this would be pretty cool

and another things. Please don't ever go for balance... I fear Brawl- is going to not be as good because of it.... The unbalance of the game is what makes it fun

HA I BEAT YOU WITH MY POS CHARACTER sounds much better than HA I BEAT YOU WITH MY EQUIVALENT CHARACTER

 

[ryuu seika]

Don't worry about balance. Lols and balance don't go well together.
Ok, updated:

Universal Changes

Tripping rate increased to 64x normal
Pressing Taunt Kills You.
Hitstun removed.
Melee air dodge system adopted.
Respawn Invincibility removed.
Stop Watch freezes game indefinitely.
Stage Friction is minimal.
Rumble occurs late.
Stickers, CDs, Trophies and Bananas explode on contact.
Bob-Oms and Motion Sensor Bombs cause tripping.
Items can't be turned off and are always set to "Very High".
Ledges have permanent pitfalls.
Random Select always picks Pichu* on Pokemon Stadium 2.
Stages scroll in reverse.
Shields last indefinitely but have a chance to break at any moment.
The AI takes control of players briefly at random moments.
There is no limit to the power boost charging moves can grant.
All characters are magnetically attracted to eachother.

*Pichu takes Pikachu's spot on the roster and looks the same on the select screen.

Some Character Specific Changes

Bowser... <suggest> :random:
Captain Falcon shouts "Falcooon Puunch!" for every attack and "Yes!" for every other action.
Diddy Kong's jetpack causes tripping (with confetti) when it hits players, even in the air. Will occasionally fire Diddy off the top of the screen due to super misfire.
Donkey Kong... <suggest> :random:
Falco shoots Bob-oms rather than lasers.
Fox has Falco's old lasers with added rapid fire.
Ganondorf's neutral B is a super tornado.
Nana looks like Popo and Popo looks like Nana (model swap for ICs).
Ike fights with a Pow Hammer rather than a sword, with sounds to match. His B moves sometimes have the strength to match too but otherwise his damage is less than normal.
Jigglypuff's up B turns the entire stage black temporarily and his down B is useless.
King Dedede spits with infinite strength.
Kirby's Copy ability KOs (doesn't copy) and his Utilt has an insane hitbox range.
Links Final Smash keeps hitting until you stop holding the B button and his bombs are Bob-oms.
Lucario... <suggest> :random:
Ness and Lucas' PK Starstorms rain starmen instead of damaging.
Lucas' PK Freeze spawns Freezies.
Luigi misfires 7 out of 8 times, rather than 1 in 8.
Mario... <suggest> :random:
Marth... <suggest> :random:
Controls for all players are inverted during Metaknight's B moves and his neutral B makes a "quack" noise.
Mr.Game&Watch's forward B mostly hits nines and ones and will occasionally be replaced by a Pow Hammer or even a golden Super Hammer.
Olimar spawns items instead of using or spawning Pikmin.
Peach does not pull up turnips, but Smash Balls.
Pikachu is replaced by a worse version of Pichu (see above).
Pit... <suggest> :random:
Squirtle... <suggest> :random:
Ivysaur's Bullet Seed hits once per frame.
Charizard's Rock Smash explodes like the starfox bomb.
ROB... <suggest> :random:
Samus... <suggest> :random:
Snake's grenades are Pokeballs.
Sonic's speed is doubled (including speech), apart from his dash which is 8x normal and his walking which is unchanged.
Toon Link... <suggest> :random:
Wario... <suggest> :random:
Wolf... <suggest> :random:
Yoshi... <suggest> :random:
Zelda and Sheik transform into random characters, rather than eachother.
Zero Suit Samus... <suggest> :random:

Some Stage Specific Changes

Final Destination tilts and flips.

 

[ElDominio]

I wish I could do PSA work :/

 

[DVDV28]

I think we should make the Home Run Bat's Smash like B-'s Warlock punch. Shield = other person dies.

 

[ryuu seika]

Bat smashes shield break and 1HKO if blocked?

 

[ElDominio]

where r teh coderz

 

[Shorts]

Is it possible for Wario to pull out infinate amount of bikes?

 

[ElDominio]

can anyone code?

 

[ryuu seika]

At the very least, the OP can code. From what I understand, the problem is that the coders are low on free time, not that they aren't present.

Lol at infinite bike Wario. It should be possible but it would require either a limit or for the previous bike to be replaced to avoid making the game lag.

 

[standardtoaster]

Yeah, the bike thing is definitely possible. Get me an approximation of how long you have to wait after using bike before you can do bike again and I'll look into that.

 

[ryuu seika]

Do you mean currently?

EDIT: no, you clearly don't as time isn't the factor that limits it right now.

 

[standardtoaster]

What? I mean for someone to do this:

1. do sideB
2. jump off bike
3. time how long it is until you can do sideB again
4. tell me how long the time is

 

[ryuu seika]

At the minute, the time before it can be reused aerially is longer than it takes me to fall of the tallest custom stage I can build. I would suggest that the modified version be reusable the instant he starts falling again.

 

[PieDisliker]

Ooh, can you make the Nintendog appear and block the screen at random points?

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

Marth can spam counter forever with no vulnerable time.

 

[MonkUnit]

PieDisliker, that would require to have the Assist Trophy drop at random points during the match, open up, and always have the Nintendog always happen. Not possible AFAIK.

 

[Zook]

Yoshi's eat special eggs the opponent for 20 seconds.

 

[ryuu seika]

Marth can spam counter forever with no vulnerable time.

That's just dumb!
In other words, it might be worth including.

 

[MonkUnit]

Air Dodging, Spot Dodging, and Shield Rolling should all have 0 invincibility frames.

 

[ryuu seika]

Lol, that sounds like a right laugh!

 

[PurDi]

No, only rolling has invincibility. That way you can be more of a troll to all the people that never roll :D

 

[ryuu seika]

That doesn't sound that great IMO.

 

[MonkUnit]

My idea is better.

 

[standardtoaster]

It'd give no purpose to shielding at all. :/

 

[ryuu seika]

What would give no purpose to shielding? The suggestion was never to improve rolls, only to make all other forms of dodging useless (except possibly for recovery).

 

[MonkUnit]

Just remove all forms of dodging. You can still stand and shield though.

 

[PieDisliker]

Squirtle should breathe fire and Charizard spray water, if possible.

 

[ryuu seika]

Keeping dodging but making it leave you vulnerable as you first suggested would be better IMO.

Yeah, that water/fire swap sounds good but might be difficult. Maybe a simple move swap would be better (surfing charizard anyone?).