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ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
At the Falcon 64 usmash thing, it would be more useful than his current usmash. I only used his current usmash for when I thought my opponent was gonna flub a tech.
Sneak8288
Smash Champion
We should talk more about falcon... his roll in brawl is garbage but in melee buffered roll was his best line of defense in alot of situations since his spot dodge was terrible. So speed up his roll animation.
Rhubarbo
Smash Champion
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This game is supposed to replicate Melee. To capture a true offensive vibe, the defensive oriented Brawl air dodges must be omitted.
Dan_X
Smash Lord
Yeah, Falcon's 64 usmash would certainly be moreuseful.
@slashy: HAD was removed because BAD is too powerful-- especially in a game with faster falling and higher grav like P:M. Fast fallers have a "get-out-of-jail-free card," with BAD as they can AD from a combo and always get to the ground fast and safely. MAD is just better all around.
@slashy: HAD was removed because BAD is too powerful-- especially in a game with faster falling and higher grav like P:M. Fast fallers have a "get-out-of-jail-free card," with BAD as they can AD from a combo and always get to the ground fast and safely. MAD is just better all around.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
I might regret saying this but I want his ****ty techrolls back too.
Actually, shouldn't most spot dodges and techrolls be slower?
I don't agree with changing Falcon's uSmash to 64 uSmash. His moveset is fine the way it is. Falcon's melee uSmash can be used unexpectedly.
I just think if we ever need to change a character's move, we should look at Melee as the boundary. If we desperately need to change it to something else, then we should resort to 64. Like how Kirby's nAir in Brawl and Melee is ****.. so we can consider changing his nAir to 64's as nAir is usually a staple move. uSmash for Falcon, not so much as he can rely on many other things to kill.
I just think if we ever need to change a character's move, we should look at Melee as the boundary. If we desperately need to change it to something else, then we should resort to 64. Like how Kirby's nAir in Brawl and Melee is ****.. so we can consider changing his nAir to 64's as nAir is usually a staple move. uSmash for Falcon, not so much as he can rely on many other things to kill.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
Hey, I don't really care either way. I've been playing Falcon for so long it wouldn't bother me a bit.
metaXzero
Smash Champion
Wasn't it already said that 64 Falcon's U-Smash was not a KO move?
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
Yup, it's more of a juggle really. It could be a great alternate to stomping and uthrowing.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
64 USmash is like a grounded Uair in it's knockback and trajectory, had excellent startup time, and quite a lot of hitstun. However, he already has a ton of options that can combo into knee like Uthrow or Dthrow into Nair/Uair, etc.
Kirby should get his sex kick back though. I'd like to see how it changes his game since his current one is awful.
Kirby should get his sex kick back though. I'd like to see how it changes his game since his current one is awful.
jalued
Smash Lord
good
as much as melee as possible please
ValTroX
Smash Ace
what about Kirby's 64 Nair? I hope that's a yes
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
Is it possible to give Falcon his Nair priority back? It was his only hole proof approach, I don't think stuff like Squirtle's Fair should outprioritize it.
jalued
Smash Lord
its still not great priority.. plus squirtle is an un melee character, so i dont feel you should relate the 2 as an argument... as long as falcons nair has the same priority as it did in melee, then i see no problem balancing other moves accordingly..
just to ask, are u meaning vbrawl nair or brawl+ nair? his brawl+ has increased priority anyway...
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
I dunno. My Wii's broke. His Nair had pretty good priority, idk what you're talking about.
Gardevior
Smash Lord
Squirtle's an un-melee character? Now you'll be saying Jigglypuff is an un-melee character too.
edit - or do you mean not originally from melee?
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
squirtle was not in melee, thus he counts as an un-melee character. jigglypuff was in melee, thus she counts as a melee character.
Gardevior
Smash Lord
I hope you caught my edit?
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
oh, i finished posting before you edited. its all good.
humble
Smash Ace
Squirtle just feels like it belongs in melee. :V He'll probably **** in P:M.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
He'll have a lot of trouble with people who out range him, unfortunately.
Wind Owl
Smash Lord
Nonsense, just buff all his hitboxes to be ******** like Puff's.
humble
Smash Ace
His movement is so awesome though, he weaves like a boss. Give him a good wavedash please, squirtle for king of sliding. Good aerial mobility, high fall speed, quick jumps, kickass turn momentum, a good wavedash will just add to it.
ValTroX
Smash Ace
im really really sure Diddy will **** in P:M, cant wait to play him
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Diddy is gonna ****. I can't see how he could be bad.
Wind Owl
Smash Lord
Why not? I think it would a pretty legit buff, actually.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
Jiggs is so ghey. I hate her. If he's like Jiggs I will hate him too. Do what you will. Whatever, He'll just have to be ghey.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
I'm pretty sure thats just dumb. Jiggs' bair is ********. Like, Melee Marth fair ******** with amazing aerial movement.
Shadic
Alakadoof?
Archangel
Smash Hero
I thought Falco was already complete? Also is there a list of who's complete, being worked on, or untouched?
humble
Smash Ace
Not available for us average dweebs. :V
Archangel
Smash Hero
Wind Owl
Smash Lord
EDIT: Nevermind, not sure.
Dan_X
Smash Lord
Wow. That Falco looks pretty awesome. Is ours as good? Animation wise?
Wind Owl
Smash Lord
P:M Falco is keeping his animations for the mostpart. His Shine is back, of course, but we're tweaking his Brawl Fsmash to have Melee hitboxes and timing, and he's keeping his Brawl Fair, for example.
humble
Smash Ace
I want melee G dubs nair and dtilt. Will that be in?
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