Project M Social Thread

[Darkshooter]

About the HTP vid...

I remember that Melee had a vid featuring its characters. It was one vid featuring the starting cast and it spent a good 20 seconds on each of them. In the spirit of this and the HTP vid... is there possibly a way to load multiple HTP vids? Imagine if there was a menu option under vids where you could watch a short little HTP for each character. If this isn't really possible... there's always the possibility of putting your character "HTP" under replays and have to go without subtitled instructions. If however, you could do character specific HTP vids, it would also be cool to be able to chose which one played on screen when the start menu went idle. Again, this is all pretty out there as far as I know and assume, but I'm just throwing out these ideas in the event they are workable.

Here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HAZ6Db2XHo

 

[Ulevo]

iirc, 64 / Melee were not supposed to get competitive. He has stated there is no "advanced play" and any of such is from glitches or exploits. Though honestly you have a completely perfect point, maybe you should email Nintendo and tell them.

Actually, Sakurai had tutorial sections on his websites that taught you these so called "glitches". One to note in particular was an article called Landing with Style I believe, and described how to properly L Cancel.

Wave dashing was merely explained as an expected reaction from a combination of mechanics, and that it's use in the game on a competitive level wasn't recognized. It wasn't a glitch.

To be honest, there are almost no real glitches that are used in competitive play. It's all mostly part of the product.

 

[genkaku]

glitches =/= exploits

 

[Strong Badam]

What Sakurai doesn't understand is that that isn't true. Melee can be played casually JUST as easily as Brawl. Casual players don't care what's under the hood as long as it's fun. But for a game to be fun for casuals and deeply competitive for hardcore gamers at the same time is an incredible accomplishment, but unfortunately Sakurai isn't willing to try it again.

And Brawl massively outsold Melee because the Wii massively outsold the Gamecube. That's all. Does Brawl command the same market share of Wii owners that Melee does of Gamecube owners? Not even close. A lot of the hype surrounding Brawl before it's release existed solely because of the reputation the Smash series built due to how great Melee was.


Ok I think we're veering off topic so I'm gonna stop now.

case in point: mashers are going to mash regardless of what game it is; cater a fighting game to the competitive community and you'll be successful.

 

[Sterowent]

in the end, when making a fighting game, design it with the idea of an audience behind the players. design it like a sport.

i may have tons of fun playing some football with friends, but if i can't watch a game and get pumped it's not going to stack up.

 

[Juushichi]

case in point: mashers are going to mash regardless of what game it is; cater a fighting game to the competitive community and you'll be successful.

Virtua Fighter says what's up. It's probably the "best" overall fighter and the one of the least popular.

 

[FireBall Stars]

Actually, Sakurai had tutorial sections on his websites that taught you these so called "glitches". One to note in particular was an article called Landing with Style I believe, and described how to properly L Cancel.

Wave dashing was merely explained as an expected reaction from a combination of mechanics, and that it's use in the game on a competitive level wasn't recognized. It wasn't a glitch.

To be honest, there are almost no real glitches that are used in competitive play. It's all mostly part of the product.

iirc there's a section on the japanese melee website, which is still acessible, that proably explained DI.

I couldn't really understand the text, but there's two screenshot of Falcon Fsmashing Kirby, one which Kirby flies in the normal trajectory and the other that Kirby is sent flying in a much more near to vertical trajectory.

 

[Deleted member]

You guys should hold a competition for official PM intro video once PM goes into released beta.

Personally, I'd start it off with a rustic looking countdown from early movies in the 20's and show a few combos of SSB64 in black and white with poor cinema quality. Then, move into 2-4 combos for Melee and 2-4 combos for Brawl in color. From there I'd only include PM gameplay, increase the tempo of the music, and show character specific cutscenes that are cool.

 

[Strong Badam]

Virtua Fighter says what's up. It's probably the "best" overall fighter and the one of the least popular.

popularity is affected by a large number of factors; i was speaking specifically on the issue of designing a game for competitive players or for casual players.

You guys should hold a competition for official PM intro video once PM goes into released beta.

Personally, I'd start it off with a rustic looking countdown from early movies in the 20's and show a few combos of SSB64 in black and white with poor cinema quality. Then, move into 2-4 combos for Melee and 2-4 combos for Brawl in color. From there I'd only include PM gameplay, increase the tempo of the music, and show character specific cutscenes that are cool.

something's wrong here.....

 

[Deleted member]

Eh, if you want to see a more dramatic evolution of smash gameplay from SSB64 to PM, it won't be so wrong.

There's some cool strings and combos in Brawl though. Not on the level of Melee, but regardless its an example of how the game is played.

Brawl combos...

 

[Brian_Link]

If you're looking for the evolution of combos... Melee should have the last spot before the Project:M footage. If you go solely on graphics... then yeah 64,Melee,Brawl,PM.

Personally I would be content with either 64 -> Melee -> PM, or just vBrawl -> PM

 

[Ulevo]

Personally, I'd start it off with a rustic looking countdown from early movies in the 20's and show a few combos of SSB64 in black and white with poor cinema quality. Then, move into 2-4 combos for Melee and 2-4 combos for Brawl in color. From there I'd only include PM gameplay, increase the tempo of the music, and show character specific cutscenes that are cool.

2-4 combos for Brawl in color.

combos for Brawl

COMBOS FOR BRAWL

WAT.

On another note. Is anyone working on King Dedede at the moment?

 

[Darkshooter]

Bumping for answers on Dedede

 

[Zef]

Bumping for answers on Dedede

hes barely been worked on iirc

 

[genkaku]

waddle dee wombo combo confirmed for PM

 

[Ulevo]

The reason I asked is because I think this Jet Hammer should be included for lulz. It's like Dedede's version of the Falcon Punch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PZZvGuVaZI

 

[*P*L*U*R*]

D3 should throw out knuckle joes on occasion.

It'd be like a stichface or a bomb-omb except it combos you

 

[Kati]

Is the code to map toadstool jumping to another button private or public?

Also, I'm wondering why Marth's neutral special was changed from the stab to the arching slash.

 

[Crispy4001]

Plugged PM in the comment section of the new Sakurai interview:
http://www.1up.com/news/masahiro-sakurai-reflects-super-smash

Say something in support of PM in reply to it if you feel compelled to, I guess.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Is the code to map toadstool jumping to another button private or public?

what is this i dont even

Also, I'm wondering why Marth's neutral special was changed from the stab to the arching slash.

Because it was like that in Melee.

 

[Sora-kun]

Is the code to map toadstool jumping to another button private or public?

Also, I'm wondering why Marth's neutral special was changed from the stab to the arching slash.

I hate when people say toadstool.

Anyway, i'm assuming it was changed back because the melee one was overall more useful

orrrr because they said they're returning melee top tiers to how they were.
Or a combination of both.

 

[Rikana]

Plugged PM in the comment section of the new Sakurai interview:
http://www.1up.com/news/masahiro-sakurai-reflects-super-smash

Say something in support of PM in reply to it if you feel compelled to, I guess.

I was reading this and I clicked on the link provided in one of the comments which lead to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyVGGC3OJS8

Who are they? Outdated set? I'm assuming so. They seem kind of bad too.

 

[Shadic]

It's probably related to 5ive, and is not only an outdated set, but an outdated set being played really, really poorly. The PMBR would prefer giving this Ken guy as little attention as possible, thanks.

 

[Stevo]

OMG I just remembered.

EXTENDERRRRR needs to be in PM

 

[Magus420]

It's from August/early September or possibly older.

 

[shanus]

\ I wish people would respect the work we've done and wait till we released a build. If you have a leaked copy, whatever, but keep it to yourself.

 

[Thunderhorse+]

You know 5ive. When does he respect anything? He's mad French

Spoiler

Canadian

 

[Ulevo]

Canadian or not, spreading leaks will only hurt the project. I don't even see why you'd post it on YouTube in the first place.

 

[Jay Talbayne]

Honestly.. i wouldnt be suprised if this whole leaking thing became a huge... HUGE.. problem..

 

[Rikana]

You know 5ive. When does he respect anything? He's mad French

Spoiler

Canadian

I'm Canadian.

 

[JCaesar]

People permanently banned from all future Project M tournaments where I have any influence, including Pound and Apex:
5ive
Ken34

Don't make this list longer. Don't participate in a leak.

 

[Dantarion]

Also, I will personally give you the finger IRL.

 

[Shadic]

Also, I will personally give you the finger IRL.

Last time Dant did this to somebody, their entire family caught on fire. This man truly is a wizard.

 

[Thunderhorse+]

I'm Canadian.

I am truly sorry for your condition.

 

[Frogles]

lmfao @ trusting 5ive with a closed alpha

 

[genkaku]

I know what would fix all of the leakage problems.
haha

 

[shanus]

well we've been planning something.............. hence why ive made some references

 

[Zef]

well we've been planning something.............. hence why ive made some references

omfg shanus dont do dis

 

[Demon-oni]

Asked this question a few pages back, didn't get answered.

I'm sure you guys are working on other things, but how is the clone engine coming along?

 

[stingers]

shanus has the nuclear missile launch codes (wikileaks posted them a few days ago)

I wouldn't mess with him, guys.