Project M Social Thread

[ETWIST51294]

Yeah, there's no point in taking out good brawl techs.

 

[camelot]

good brawl techs.

Footstools not included... lol.

Like I said before about footstools, they're too good in Project M. If you use it on a fastfaller, it's an almost guaranteed KO because of the gravity increase, not to mention you boost to safety at the same time. Horribly skewed risk/reward factor (and everybody can do it).

I'm hoping footstools won't stay.

 

[Archangel]

footstools are ghey....

 

[shanus]

Footstools not included... lol.

Like I said before about footstools, they're too good in Project M. If you use it on a fastfaller, it's an almost guaranteed KO because of the gravity increase, not to mention you boost to safety at the same time. Horribly skewed risk/reward factor (and everybody can do it).

I'm hoping footstools won't stay.

We can make them meteor cancelable if we want to.

If that is still ugly, then maybe can remove them. I just dont want to rush taking them out when a better solution may present itself.

 

[Bero]

I'm making pages about Project M for Japanese.
I want to use the logo but I can't find it. Is the logo already available?

 

[V-K]

Hey will the hitstun be lower than B+ hitstun?
I personally would like to have higher hitstun. I played Smash64 yesterday and it feels just great to keep comboing people. :D

BTW: Footstool jump doesn´t work really good in B+ imo, sometimes it happens by accident that you just fly in the air although you didn´t really touch your opponent.

 

[jalued]

for footstalls, is it possible to just make it luigi and mario specific, and make the timing alot tighter, AND map it to up on the D-pad? Then it would take skill and be character specific

Hey will the hitstun be lower than B+ hitstun?
I personally would like to have higher hitstun. I played Smash64 yesterday and it feels just great to keep comboing people. :D

BTW: Footstool jump doesn´t work really good in B+ imo, sometimes it happens by accident that you just fly in the air although you didn´t really touch your opponent.

this has been said time and time again, the gravity is higher, so the hitstun ahs to be lower. Smash64 was floaty, so the high hitstun was important, plus alot of the combos worked since there was NO airdodge...

please research before you post

 

[Kitamerby]

Footstool jumping is a fine mechanic. Why the hell would anyone want to get rid of it?

 

[shanus]

Footstool jumping is a fine mechanic. Why the hell would anyone want to get rid of it?

I want to highlight this even more given how we have remapped the footstool button to be separate from jumps. This removes the unintentional uses of footstools.

However, with higher gravity, their duration of effectiveness or ability to escape DOES need to be modified.

 

[Kitamerby]

I want to highlight this even more given how we have remapped the footstool button to be separate from jumps. This removes the unintentional uses of footstools.

However, with higher gravity, their duration of effectiveness or ability to escape DOES need to be modified.

Ah, I see. Carry on, then.

 

[cubaisdeath]

Footstools not included... lol.

Like I said before about footstools, they're too good in Project M. If you use it on a fastfaller, it's an almost guaranteed KO because of the gravity increase, not to mention you boost to safety at the same time. Horribly skewed risk/reward factor (and everybody can do it).

I'm hoping footstools won't stay.

footstools are like a shine spike that are harder to time and do no damage. we'll see how consistently it all can be done first.

and good luck to all the new testers. I would totally like to be one, but all I have is melee experience lol. once this goes beta I'll definitely do my best to lend helpful suggestions. I actually want this project to be as good as it sounds

 

[Cyan_Blau]

Fox/Falco Zup and Zdown

For me it is totally recommented to change the Zup and Zdown of Fox and Falco, so that there can be used more combos like in Melee!

Hope that will be recognized (I know some people whose fav is that kind of move).


THIS IS NO REQUEST! IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A GOOD TIP!

PS: I love this project, well done coders ^^!



//AX

 

[Kitamerby]

For me it is totally recommented to change the Zup and Zdown of Fox and Falco, so that there can be used more combos like in Melee!

Hope that will be recognized (I know some people whose fav is that kind of move).


THIS IS NO REQUEST! IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A GOOD TIP!

PS: I love this project, well done coders ^^!



//AX

Zup, Zdown? Do you mean the Up/Down throws?

 

[ETWIST51294]

Even so, Fox and Falcos dthrows weren't even good. Falcos new dthrow is much better. I do agree with changing there uthrow though.

edit: and I also hate footstools

 

[Kix]

We can make them meteor cancelable if we want to.

If that is still ugly, then maybe can remove them. I just dont want to rush taking them out when a better solution may present itself.

I agree about giving it time, although I could easily see this being ugly as a general tactic. It would be fitting as a Mario Bros. only technique, but could still be stupid.

 

[ETWIST51294]

Hey camelot, what happend with that Onett melee camera thing?

 

[Alphatron]

Ugh, I'd support footstools if it was ONLY possible to footstool when you were above your opponent. But we'll see where this goes.

 

[Veril]

Footstools need to be removed in a game that has directional airdodges imo.

Hey will the hitstun be lower than B+ hitstun?

B+ hitstun is higher than melee's. .46 > .44

 

[kupo15]

Footstools imo have no place in a fighting game period let alone in a Melee replication.

I have no prob keeping QAC

Veril: I'm pretty sure Melee's hitstun would be 0.4. Where did you get .44 from?

 

[shanus]

Well it's pretty easy to remove footstools if we deem to. I just have to modify the code slightly and its cake

 

[Pur3 Smash]

when will this game be expected to be released?

 

[ETWIST51294]

It's in pre-alpha. No time soon.

 

[cubaisdeath]

since footstools are being mapped to a different button it should be much harder to do them PERIOD, even with reprogrammable controls. the fact that they are on a different key makes the game much more interesting. say you are ken comboing someone with marth, and right before the dair, you footstool them and dair for the finisher. thats much more satisfying if it takes an additional input to land such a technique IMO. it just needs to be played with, and seeing only a handful of people even have the codeset, its not a reliable source of testing because this game wants to be so widespread. when the first beta comes out and we all notice problems, then it can be changed.

edit: unless of course its already too broken, then it can be altered, but it doesn't need to be removed completely yet.

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

if we don't want to remove brawl tech's and add just new stuff and not remove, would it be better to call this game Melee+ ?

Brawl+ is "+" cause it brawl, with some of the best tech of melee/64/brawl, or I'm wrong?

I just see this more Melee+ than melee 2.0 :S

Melee 2.0 isn't melee 2.0 cause of wavedash :S or the edgeguard game or Directional AD :S

anyways... I suppurt this project for ****s sake >.<

I've been supporting it... since the first pages of the thread... so don't start flamming me cause a single post saying this :S

lolz, but be sure to quote to this post I know someone will XD

 

[ETWIST51294]

This is suppose to be exactly like Melee with more ATs. We LIKE new ATs. It's Melee 2.0 not Melee+

 

[Turazrok]

if we don't want to remove brawl tech's and add just new stuff and not remove, would it be better to call this game Melee+ ?

Brawl+ is "+" cause it brawl, with some of the best tech of melee/64/brawl, or I'm wrong?

I just see this more Melee+ than melee 2.0 :S

Melee 2.0 isn't melee 2.0 cause of wavedash :S or the edgeguard game or Directional AD :S

anyways... I suppurt this project for ****s sake >.<

I've been supporting it... since the first pages of the thread... so don't start flamming me cause a single post saying this :S

lolz, but be sure to quote to this post I know someone will XD

You're right about the quote. You're wrong about Brawl +. Brawl + has reduced aerial lag, but not lcanceling (I guess you could say auto). It has no wavedash or such things from melee. It has no zcancel/taunt cancel from 64. L2 informed opinion.

 

[The Prophet_]

Well it's pretty easy to remove footstools if we deem to. I just have to modify the code slightly and its cake

Yo Shanus you gotta get your coding crew to make a code for my Game and Watch to B BO BOP B BO BOP when he walks/runs/wavedashes.

-Do you think its possible? it would be great =)

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How about the Melee YO-YO Glitch for Ness?

-Possible?

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I said this before: I wish I could help you and your crew but I'm no coder.

-YOU GUYS ARE AWESOME, I'll repay you guys in a different way.

 

[cubaisdeath]

why would you want the yoyo glitch in? its not like you'd ever use it

 

[RandomLax]

why would you want the yoyo glitch in? its not like you'd ever use it

Dont be so sure... Dont be so sure *Twirls mustache*
bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha I mean...

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

why would you want the yoyo glitch in? its not like you'd ever use it

my friend is a Melee Ness main... he alway almost in everymatch uses the yoyo glitch

Edit:

Even at tourneys >.>

 

[Quenk]

@ shanus: I applied to help out with this. Even if I don't get to help out, good luck to this. Some of my friends also wish you luck with this endeavour.

 

[~tgm_Zeej]

I would totally be willing to help with the project.

However, with no Tournament Melee experience and no knowledge of code, I'm pretty sure I'd be as close to useless as humanly possible. >_>

 

[ChivalRuse]

If Kirby's dair came out faster and was difficult to smash DI / meteor cancel, that would be so sexy.

 

[cubaisdeath]

my friend is a Melee Ness main... he alway almost in everymatch uses the yoyo glitch

Edit:

Even at tourneys >.>

then the people you guys are playing are really bad

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

then the people you guys are playing are really bad

he plays with good players

he plays with HDL sometimes in tourneys (friendlies or tourney matches) and with Excel Zero

they both went to pound 4

HDL fought with m2k and with armada and did good, so... don't say we play with really bad people :S

 

[ETWIST51294]

OH SHlT. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT BUBBLEMAN???

Yo he rapesssss

 

[JayFizzy]

I have some questions about fox...

1) Will SHDL be really hard to do like it was in melee?
2) Will fox's lasers be retreatable by holding backwards while shooting?
3) Will his Bair go back to how it was (like falcos)?
4) Will there be UpB edge cancelling?
5) Would you guys be able to make fox's gun shoot by his side like it did in melee? (lol).

Also, something that I would REALLY want to be in this is the white puff of smoke after a wavedash like in melee. PLEASE.

 

[Deleted member]

I have some questions about fox...

1) Will SHDL be really hard to do like it was in melee?
2) Will fox's lasers be retreatable by holding backwards while shooting?
3) Will his Bair go back to how it was (like falcos)?
4) Will there be UpB edge cancelling?
5) Would you guys be able to make fox's gun shoot by his side like it did in melee? (lol).

Also, something that I would REALLY want to be in this is the white puff of smoke after a wavedash like in melee. PLEASE.

1 - SHDL wasn't hard in melee You can SHDL though.
2. Yes. They are.
3. His Bair is like Falco's now, yes.
4. I'm not sure.
5. Again, I'm not sure.

 

[cookieM0Nster]

then the people you guys are playing are really bad

Don't say that. Have you ever seen Simna play? He killed with the Yo-Yo Glitch.

And this guy may have perfected the Yo-Yo Glitch, who knows :/

 

[cubaisdeath]

Don't say that. Have you ever seen Simna play? He killed with the Yo-Yo Glitch.

And this guy may have perfected the Yo-Yo Glitch, who knows :/

yeah, I used to play him all the time. he didn't get it THAT often.

3. His Bair is like Falco's now, yes.

shine back air?