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Project M Social Thread
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Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
God, I love Dos Equis.
Dingding123
Smash Journeyman
*brings up a topic made a dozen pages ago*
I've had an interesting idea for Pichu. Howzabout his electric attacks have such little lag and give just enough stun to where he becomes the most combo-happy character ever? Leave the damage he takes when he does any electic attacks; just make them all have a follow-up to the point of him having legitimate 0-death combos on lighter members of the cast.
*goes back to lurking*
I've had an interesting idea for Pichu. Howzabout his electric attacks have such little lag and give just enough stun to where he becomes the most combo-happy character ever? Leave the damage he takes when he does any electic attacks; just make them all have a follow-up to the point of him having legitimate 0-death combos on lighter members of the cast.
*goes back to lurking*
curry9186
Smash Journeyman
I like this. It uses some different and unusual gimmicks which is great considering that a lot of the popular stages are very similar to each other.I don't know, if here in poject M you'll use this, but here is it
Green Hill Zone + 2.0
What's new?
*New stage layout.
*The two platforms are low now and, the upper platform moves.
*It has new texture (from original sprites from GHZ).
*New collision, now you can't get trapped under the edges.
*New location, now you can see the sonic TV but it doesn't part of the fight.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
+1 support.
Pichu should be an uber rush-down character.
Needs to be stupidly close to the opponent to do anything, but when he is, he should **** with combos.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
...How would Raichu be easier to make?-10 support
Raichu would probably be easier/funner to make
If they make Pichu, they've already got sound effects, a model, a moveset, etc...
And Pichu fits the theme of the project better.
EDIT: Also, you have far less posts than me, so my opinion means more than yours. HA!
Hush now, no more talking about Pichu.
I'm curious as to what is going on with Yoshi, I assume he has DJC back? Any vids?
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
its always easy to say "no more talking about ____" when you're the last one to say anything about it.
FireBall Stars
Smash Ace
Can we talk about roy? :B
If not, some suggestion of character?
If not, some suggestion of character?
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
This is so true.
I already suggested Yoshi above.
But Roy would be cool as well.
roy has a glowing sword pen0r nose when he fights against marth
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
He also wears his orgasm face against Marth.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
For all it's worth I support Pichu for P:M. Love the look/feel of those aerials and U-smash, love the recovery, love bomb-safe d-smash. Too bad no legal stages have bomb items naturally appearing in Melee :<
From what I've seen of Yoshi, I believe that he is getting Melee stats on most moves, Brawl F-tilt, "Recovery" Egg Toss, and the hybrid optional DJC. All so far and tentative of course. The last video i saw of him was probably about a month ago too, so more may have been done.
From what I've seen of Yoshi, I believe that he is getting Melee stats on most moves, Brawl F-tilt, "Recovery" Egg Toss, and the hybrid optional DJC. All so far and tentative of course. The last video i saw of him was probably about a month ago too, so more may have been done.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Whether or not the suggestion was taken into the consideration, I do remember the idea of speeding up Yoshi's Fair being brought up some time ago...
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
He can jump OoS too... right?
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Don't know about that one. IIRC, there were actually technical limitations (it would sacrifice one feature of his shield for that or something) on that one but don't take my word for it: it's not fresh in my mind.
FireBall Stars
Smash Ace
I mean, from the devs, after all there's no much point in discussing one character and the devs come and say for that to not be discussed yet.
Anyway, about Yoshi...
Hmm, if he can jump OoS, he will have the best shields of the game since he can't be poked inside of it and also comes faster than most shield(I think, not sure).
If he can do well without shielding much or with less shield drop lag, he may not need to jump OoS as he has some solid defensive options as his Pivot Grab and egg throw if polished to it
If we take a look on B+ Yoshi we can see that he's a good character in thatenvironment as some buffs needed was already given to him in that game.
With Egg Throw not taking his midair jump away, he is harder to EG than before, inrease of priority and less lag on Egg Roll makes it more usable. A great air control helps his movementation.
Faster and stronger attacks in both grounded and air game helps him to be more effective offensively. The hybrid djc/rising aerial system gives him more possibilities of combos and maneuvers and takes away the impossibility of using an aerial while recovering.
Also, Yoshi Bomb pops people up with the initial hitbox, it may be a good finisher when grounded because of that but may require a setup, not to mention his other finishers with good range that his DJC Bair may easily setup to.
Probably yoshi only needs tweaks to be a good character in P:M to adapt B+ Yoshi to the Melee environment. I wouldn't worry much about him so.
But something that should be reworked, it would be Egg Lay, it should be more usable.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
I don't really think Brawl+ is a good indication of whether something is good or not.
That game only ever developed a small scene.
That game only ever developed a small scene.
FireBall Stars
Smash Ace
Since this game is made from Brawl+ pac files as starting base, it's a good reference point after all.
The game developed a small and brief scene but, we can see though the good changes that makes a character evidently better.
Anyway, the things will be tested by the P:M BRoom after all
The game developed a small and brief scene but, we can see though the good changes that makes a character evidently better.
Anyway, the things will be tested by the P:M BRoom after all
Yoshi's fair is already faster and 64-esque. His neutral B also has 64-esque range
Revven
FrankerZ
Ivysaur has not seen any changes.
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genkaku
Guest
Ivysaur is remaining exactly like vBrawl, down to the physics and gravity. Obviously.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Ah, that is excellent to hear.
Sulfur
Smash Apprentice
My one concern is that brawl characters turn out as deep as melee characters were. I know that is the goal, but it's really my one hope from this project! I'm really impartial to melee or brawl's physics, but i want the depth that each character had in melee back again :D
Please make ivysaur pimp
Please make ivysaur pimp
curry9186
Smash Journeyman
Suh-wheat. I love 64 yoshi's playstyle. It's much more aggressive than what it was turned into.
Also Mewtoo_2000 announced that he's going to start working on Great Bay. Would that be included in the release if he's okay with it?
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Snake, Sonic, and Ike (despite Ike actually having few updates in recent time; he has QD canceling though so that's already awesome) are all looking pretty awesome.
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
Isn't Great Bay banned? Or maybe it's like a doubles only counterpick. I can't remember.
curry9186
Smash Journeyman
Even if it is, it's still a melee recreation. I think it'd be nice to have but if it's not included because it's banned, I can understand that.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
He creates the stages for the sake of creating them, really. It's nice to have access to stages which should've been present throughout the entire series in the first place.
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
I agree. I kind of hope that it's brought along with the water physics of Brawl, though. It would be pretty awesome. Even though it was never really that legal, I quite enjoyed Great Bay. It's up there with Fourside.
curry9186
Smash Journeyman
Too right you. Great Bay was my favorite stage on melee despite how unfair it can be. Random turtle saves just made playing there too much fun.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
I think the water physics thing should be possible to implement. They were able to remove the water physics from Jungle Japes (mostly as a test, but as an alternative too). They should be able to port it over; Mewtwo_2000 is brilliant at stage hacking so he'll figure something out. Even in the case someone doesn't want the water physics, it would be simple to have two versions.
And yeah, I liked Great Bay a lot myself. The irony that when Brawl adds in water physics, this stage doesn't show up as the #1 candidate for it.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Mewtwo_2000 has also stated that he will continue work on FoD along with Great Bay seeing as how he has finished Fourside and only has those to do.
curry9186
Smash Journeyman
Don't worry. Mewtoo_2000 said he's working on that as well. I like checking the stage hacking thread which is the only reason I know this.
EDIT: Freaking ninja'd
jahkzheng
Smash Lord
I really like the idea of the Great Bay stage edited with Brawl water physics. I just hope all the understage shenanigans stay and I'll miss fighting on the turtle as it was going down, lol.
Quick question that is somewhat related...
Is there basically a "clone engine" for stages? I feel like there must be a couple slots based on previous mods, or were all of those some kind of stage replacement? There are so many cool Melee stages and a few 64 stages that could be added, but I wouldn't want to remove most of what Brawl has already.
Quick question that is somewhat related...
Is there basically a "clone engine" for stages? I feel like there must be a couple slots based on previous mods, or were all of those some kind of stage replacement? There are so many cool Melee stages and a few 64 stages that could be added, but I wouldn't want to remove most of what Brawl has already.
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
I wouldn't think so @ ^, but even a lot of Brawl players don't mind taking out certain stages like 75m, Icicle Mountain and uh... Hannenbow.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
dantarion mentioned that it would be possible, though PW's stage expansion code somewhat met that requirement already...
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