Project M Social Thread

[Juushichi]

Guys, if they're gonna say "just play Melee", let 'em. They'll miss out on a great game in their ignorance, though, they'll probably just get on the bandwagon later. When this amazing game finally drops.

 

[Sora-kun]

but of course. then whoever dissed it will look like a dumb***.

 

[Sneak8288]

we only got to play once.. we'll play more today tho

 

[Revven]

Hope you guys are getting nice replays too. (Get Armada to play >.>)

 

[Sora-kun]

it'd be amazing if armada would fight mango in this. but mango is probably busy just playing melee so...
/dreamsarecrushed

 

[jalued]

it'd be amazing if armada would fight mango in this. but mango is probably busy just playing melee so...
/dreamsarecrushed

well armada is going to the sny tournament in birmingham on the 10th, so maybe you can get some vids of him then

 

[BEES]

Anyone who has seen the recent vids from Project M should be feeling pretty stupid if they criticized the game earlier. I can't think of a compelling argument not to try P:M. It's the future of Smash.

 

[Sora-kun]

the only argument i can think of is "I'm stuck so far up my *** that i'm in danger of choking on my own head."

 

[nawgui]

A lot of the bashers just say, "why not play Melee?". .

my reply: its a true sequel not a replica

 

[Sora-kun]

My reply isn't as nice as yours <_<

 

[nawgui]

it's all good mang one way or another they will look at this project in a different (better) way...hopefully

 

[Strong Badam]

well armada is going to the sny tournament in birmingham on the 10th, so maybe you can get some vids of him then

Project M should be at that tourney, so good stuff.

 

[Sora-kun]

Curious.. how far does link's WD go exactly? Like Melee Mario length? Fox length? Something?

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

my reply: its a true sequel not a replica

Did you miss the part where they cracked melee .dat files and copied the physics from that game onto this one? No, it's a replica with a few new characters. They even re-cloned characters that were de-cloned and changed certain attacks to look exactly like they were in the previous game. There isn't anything wrong with this, but it's just Melee with updated graphics characters and stages in a better more modifiable engine and improved balance. Doing this allows the community to have knobs to turn respective to game balance and gives us more control, but it isn't what I'd call a "sequel." Brawl+ is more like a sequel.

 

[kaizo13]

how is it a replica when melee veterans have brawl and 64 moves? More of a sequel

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

I would have bought sequel before the new physics modifications.

That's not to say there's no merit to the project or anything, I'm just saying "sequel" is a very generous term for a project like this.

 

[Sora-kun]

Call it an upgrade then.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Call it an upgrade then.

This is fair.

 

[Strong Badam]

We copied physics over because the physics worked for the characters in Melee. Why re-invent the wheel?

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

In my opinion the game might have had a little more individual character if you'd have stuck with the physics you created yourself, and also might have been a little more than a Melee Copy. However, the game will be equally fun with the new physics so it probably doesn't matter much.

 

[Sora-kun]

just think how many characters are getting exact melee physics back anyway.. only the ones for which the melee physics worked. any other character will have improved physics and not copy/pasted from melee anyway. so it's technically only like 1/8th melee clone..
<_<
>_>

 

[SymphonicSage12]

Only people like Fox and Falco and Sheik and Marth, and other high tiers are getting exact melee physics. Pikachu, Bowser, Kirby, etc. are all getting revamped.

 

[L/A/W]

just in from the stream: shiz loves p:m
this is a great day

 

[NatP]

Shiz is talking well about project m in the apex stream. :D He says that he has matches vs kage, hungrybox, etc. He also says that project m is, and I quote, "just wow".

http://meleestream.vgbootcamp.com/ (If you wanna check it out)

 

[JCaesar]

You guys are gonna love these vids and I think Shiz is in love.

The guys in charge told me that we could hook up PM to the Melee livestream after Melee pools ends and do exhibition matches between pros. So get hypeMed and keep your eyes peeled.

 

[bleyva]

is there a general time frame for when pools end?

 

[L/A/W]

get mango to use falco

 

[Sora-kun]

Get Armada/Mango/Shiz/Someone else to do teams. That'd be awesome as all hell.

 

[Rikana]

Is it over already? I hope not 'cause I might've missed it then.

 

[Revven]

No, it hasn't started yet. Pools for Melee hasn't ended yet.

 

[AeonClock]

Brawl stream isn't working for me. What's going on there?

 

[Dantarion]

In my opinion the game might have had a little more individual character if you'd have stuck with the physics you created yourself, and also might have been a little more than a Melee Copy. However, the game will be equally fun with the new physics so it probably doesn't matter much.

I kinda agree except for one thing. In order for us to truely make this a "melee sequel" we need to be able to take what we are starting with, Brawl, and push in the melee direction.

One big difference between Brawl and Melee is the gravity and characters move speed, friction, etc.

Taking those values from melee makes sence, and from this point on, we can tweak characters to make things more balanced, different, etc.

Now that we can actually look at values in melee and compare them to brawl, we can balance. Also, the high tier characters are the only "copies" really, the characters that didn't really work as well in melee are the ones getting the radical changes so that they can keep up.

 

[.Fade]

Could someone record the P:M matches on the stream if they come up? Just in case I fall asleep on my keyboard x_x

 

[Melomaniacal]

Just played this at Apex, and I must say, I'm impressed. It's definitely not perfect, but it's really on its way. I used Falco mostly, and something still feels... off. It's very subtle, but it's very close to Melee.

I also tried Diddy. Not sure what to think of him. Aerial glide tossing is weird.

Also, Kage vs. Shiz was incredible. They both really liked it.

 

[genkaku]

In my opinion the game might have had a little more individual character if you'd have stuck with the physics you created yourself, and also might have been a little more than a Melee Copy. However, the game will be equally fun with the new physics so it probably doesn't matter much.

Difference for difference's sake seems a little stupid to me. PM should improve anything and everything it can, but leaving the physics and stuff imperfect for no reason other than to differ from melee is just a bad idea. Especially since it's called what? Oh yeah, project melee.

 

[Revven]

Just played this at Apex, and I must say, I'm impressed. It's definitely not perfect, but it's really on its way. I used Falco mostly, and something still feels... off. It's very subtle, but it's very close to Melee.

I also tried Diddy. Not sure what to think of him. Aerial glide tossing is weird.

Also, Kage vs. Shiz was incredible. They both really liked it.

Probably landing detection is what you're feeling is off, remember, Falco and co. in Melee land on their knees and in Brawl they land on their feet. So, the timing for some things are either easier or they are harder (such as double laser off of a ledge hop or laser platform drops are tighter).

 

[5ive]

You guys are gonna love these vids and I think Shiz is in love.

The guys in charge told me that we could hook up PM to the Melee livestream after Melee pools ends and do exhibition matches between pros. So get hypeMed and keep your eyes peeled.

gg guys :D

 

[Shell]

Tell me Kage vs. Shiz matches were saved. Sounds like it.

 

[Revven]

SHeLL, quite sure they were saved, heard they were SO hypeM.

However, I am disappoint by JCz and failing to do what he said was gonna happen tonight. Please make it happen tomorrow if it is possible.

 

[GP&B]

You guys are so boss. I absolutely cannot wait to play this beast.