Project M Social Thread

[Wind Owl]

Im surprised nobody complained about zss fsmash yet.
and a normal grab for zss is actually a pretty good idea.

Her Ftrash is being revamped.

Normal grab is sounding very interesting; we'll have to experiment.

i think removing the armor pieces completely would be beter and could help reduce the filesize.

Since like three people have mentioned this so far: ZSS' armor has already been completely removed on her entry animations and will not be coming back.

any discussions about letting zss transform back to samus just like sheik/zelda?

No, but that's an interesting possibility. I don't know how viable it is though with our limited knowledge of transformations.

 

[OrlyMelee]

well i did something like that sometime ago.
the final smash psa command that lets her transform back i pasted on zss uptaunt and zss transformed back to samus when i pressed the uptaunt it was pretty buggy though sometimes it just did a normal uptaunt.

 

[kaizo13]

Ganon is so much better w/o the elements on his Fair and Bair.....just sayin

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

The problem with that is her transformation back into Samus hurts really bad. I guess they could fix that but I'm not sure it's worth it. ZSS' file size limit is really small and that's really fluffy.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

Zero Suit Samus is starting to sound really sexy right now with all her revamps and whatnot. Or maybe it's just Supermodel's avatar that's getting me off...

But seriously, I'm now starting to like the idea of a normal grab for her., but I can't get it out of my head that you're removing her suit pieces. That's just...AWESOME!

 

[Sora-kun]

you guys aren't lowering her short hop? that's the main reason i gave up on trying to use her.. it's too **** high.. you can't make it just a little shorter?

 

[SymphonicSage12]

you guys aren't lowering her short hop? that's the main reason i gave up on trying to use her.. it's too **** high.. you can't make it just a little shorter?

Her short hop is SUPPOSED to be that way. She's the only one with such a unique short hop. You're not supposed to short hop aerial approach with Zamus anyways >.>


EDIT: at L/A/W. OH ****! not in a good way

 

[L/A/W]

mango just said in an apex interview that he didn't approve of project m
edit above guy: why is her "unique" short hop so important
sheik has the same short hop and it makes sffling much less effective

 

[OrlyMelee]

The problem with that is her transformation back into Samus hurts really bad. I guess they could fix that but I'm not sure it's worth it. ZSS' file size limit is really small and that's really fluffy.

you mean the damage she deals when she transforms into samus?
just remove the hitbox damage etc on psa.
and melee had no final smash so why not remove all the files of her final smash.
it's wasted space you know.

 

[Sora-kun]

Her short hop is SUPPOSED to be that way. She's the only one with such a unique short hop. You're not supposed to short hop aerial approach with Zamus anyways >.>

i know that <_< i'm just saying it bothered the hell out of me. i'm not a grounded fighter type of person anyway. you should see me trying to use DK it's hilarious e.e

mango just said in an apex interview that he didn't approve of project m

who cares about that **** citrus fruit?.. oh wait.. everyone e.e

why mango be hatin? D: he lost 50 respect points from me.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

DK's mostly a RAR bair character, not a ground character.

/jk

but seriously, I'm pissed off that one of the best melee players doesn't approve of this project. That's gonna drive away people on the fence about this.

 

[Sora-kun]

DK's mostly a RAR bair character, not a ground character.

/jk

but seriously, I'm pissed off that one of the best melee players doesn't approve of this project. That's gonna drive away people on the fence about this.

ya i get the back air part lol but my DK is trash because 89% of my attacks are aerials ~.~



inorite <_< but that just means those people need to get a personality and think for themselves. i'm sure once it's done people will have a change of heart anyway.

 

[L/A/W]

he has a point, he said why don't you just play melee
not enough progress has been made yet to sway many melee pros, in the future hopefully that will change

 

[Plum]

Screw Mango if he wants to hate before ever even playing the game.

We have names on board with the project that have played and can show what the project is capable of.
I mean... who doesn't think Amsah is a cool guy?

 

[Dark Sonic]

No respect for a man talking trash about a game he hasn't played. Though he's pretty chill in person.

Lot's of people change their minds after playing it.

 

[L/A/W]

Screw Mango if he wants to hate before ever even playing the game.

We have names on board with the project that have played and can show what the project is capable of.
I mean... who doesn't think Amsah is a cool guy?

mango, he said he was slightly above average lol

 

[stingers]

yeah guys dont worry too much about it. mango is just a troll

 

[Revven]

yeah guys dont worry too much about it. mango is just a troll

Yeah, he hasn't even played it yet, he has about the same mind set as many if not most Melee players do. They have to try it before knocking it.

 

[L/A/W]

you guys should come up with something to prove to the community that this project is worth it
imo the trailer came nowhere close to cutting it (possibly due to lack of footage idk)

 

[Sora-kun]

whoever says just play melee is on my hate list.. sorry mango.. it had to be done..

then i remember that mango is a bad*** and he comes right off.. he's 2 gud..

 

[I R MarF]

mango just said in an apex interview that he didn't approve of project m

wtf. Link please. I need to see this garbage-barbage for myself.

 

[Revven]

There's no link, it was on livestream.

 

[Sora-kun]

There's no link, it was on livestream.

no one recorded it? <_< i wanna seee

 

[I R MarF]

There's no link, it was on livestream.

Dang. That's dissapointing. All well... one less Jiggs main the better. LOL

 

[genkaku]

Ah, mango disapproves. Bye guys.
haha
Where was the livestream?

 

[L/A/W]

Ah, mango disapproves. Bye guys.
haha
Where was the livestream?

apex thread its really easy to find but here: http://meleestream.vgbootcamp.com/

 

[5ive]

A lot of the bashers just say, "why not play Melee?". This logic seems to be accepted, but they fail to realize that Project M brings a newer, updated Melee with MORE characters. It has everything Melee has to offer and more. With that, you can just go play Melee, but if you want Melee+more, go ahead and play Project M...or maybe even both.

 

[shanus]

.Fade wins todays cookie. He found a bit set that enables momentum commands to work during hitstun

 

[Dark Sonic]

what does this allow you to really do Shanus?

 

[kaizo13]

DI related? *guessing

and what about control of momentum/friction during dash grabs?

 

[Kink-Link5]

Sounds like it could be related to L-canceling in hitlag, or for Melee DI capacity.

 

[.Fade]

what does this allow you to really do Shanus?

Lol it was a problem that momentum codes didn't work properly when in hitstun, making a lot of recoveries fail miserably.

Now it doesn't. =3

 

[shanus]

falco's shine for instance will properly momentum cancel during recoveries and allow for more fun tuned movements with momentum commands now without concern of hitstun issues.

Possibly allows for rewritten crouch canceling + jab reset codes as well.

 

[Rikana]

Will DI ever be looked at? It seems impossible to tone it down at the moment but if it ever does happen that would be amazing.

 

[Revven]

Everything that we've stated that seems to be a problem will always tried to be looked at.

 

[Sora-kun]

I'm wondering, you guys said that brawl+ had L-canceling in the past. Is that particular codeset available anywhere? I want to mess around with the L-cancel code. I've looked everywhere but i could never find it.


and the "just play melee logic" isn't really logic at all. It's stupidity. No one should be able to dictate what we play. As previously said; project M is melee and then some. People who say "just play melee" simply lack a real reason to hate on this project and use the most overused and unoriginal reason available so **** them.


Also, good to know you guys solved another issue. Yay 4 you. *gives you all a donut* <_>

 

[Revven]

It's not the same code.

 

[JCaesar]

A lot of the bashers just say, "why not play Melee?". This logic seems to be accepted, but they fail to realize that Project M brings a newer, updated Melee with MORE characters. It has everything Melee has to offer and more. With that, you can just go play Melee, but if you want Melee+more, go ahead and play Project M...or maybe even both.

I can't help but laugh every time I hear that "logic." It's really ignorant.

Anyway, I've had a lot of people come try it out and upwards of 2 dozen ask me to hold a tournament for it, so I'd say reception at Apex has been pretty **** good so far.

 

[Revven]

Anyone notable? Have you gotten to play with Sneak?

 

[Sora-kun]

It's not the same code.

oh.. ok then. it was worth a try.
/sad