Project M Social Thread

[Juushichi]

You mean just like normal????

 

[9Kplus1]

DDD for Top Tier? Man, you must really love this character... This is quite a bit different from the popular opinion that DDD's kinda bad.

To be fair, the public's opinion about whether a character is good, bad, or anything in between is just about as shapeless, nonsensical, and invalid as PS!'s OU usage statistics for last month. Besides, here are like two good committed DDD mains, anyway, so not many people have the right to determine that DDD is bad...

 

[Stevo]

yay melee knockback stacking!

 

[Rat]

@Eli
When I read your posts about Sonic it inspires me to show how strong the character is. (Sonic's amazing.) It's good motivation to get better and practice more.

 

[Tmacc]

To be fair, the public's opinion about whether a character is good, bad, or anything in between is just about as shapeless, nonsensical, and invalid as PS!'s OU usage statistics for last month. Besides, here are like two good committed DDD mains, anyway, so not many people have the right to determine that DDD is bad...

I think DDD is a great character, and after 2.5 when he can (apparently) aim his waddles down so they are near him instead of always throwing them so far, he will be even better as he can use them to aid in his mobility.

 

[ELI-mination]

@Eli
When I read your posts about Sonic it inspires me to show how strong the character is. (Sonic's amazing.) It's good motivation to get better and practice more.

Good luck with that.

 

[UltiMario]

Why am I reminded of P's trashtalk at Shroomed and then getting destroyed in a MM later.

Fund ELI vs Rat 2012

 

[ELI-mination]

Money matching me while using Sonic is the same as offering me money to turn on my TV.

"Oh hey Eli would you like some money? All you have to do is open your eyes."
"Idk...I'm kinda tired..."
"$50?"
"...ok, one eye is open"

 

[9Kplus1]

Rat, MM Eli for $0.26

free quarter for you, imo

 

[Oro?!]

Kage got shunned for lucario talk, and we all know how that turned out. This is the same thing. You will all see soon.

 

[KingBlaze777]

To be fair, Kage's posts about Lucario "felt" more like excessive johning even though there is truth to what he said and that's why he got "shunned"

 

[leelue]

Kage: Lucario has a dumb attribute
Eli: I'm godlike and sonic is not

Unequal statements

 

[metroid1117]

Money matching me while using Sonic is the same as offering me money to turn on my TV.

"Oh hey Eli would you like some money? All you have to do is open your eyes."
"Idk...I'm kinda tired..."
"$50?"
"...ok, one eye is open"

The trash talk is strong with in one.

If we get to play in December, get ready to face my Charizard . (I might switch back to being an Ike main by then, I'm not too sure.)

 

[Juushichi]

I'd be willing to take Rat in a bet, tbqh.

Chicago (area) vs NYC (area) should be a rivalry like Bulls-Knicks of old. Stop being so friendly.

 

[ELI-mination]

The trash talk is strong with in one.

If we get to play in December, get ready to face my Charizard . (I might switch back to being an Ike main by then, I'm not too sure.)

Indeed metroid.

You might have to choose a main. Something I won't have to do.

 

[bubbaking]

I already told him he should try to keep his options open. I wouldn't want to be stuck to a char that loses to Sonic. XD

 

[metroid1117]

Sonic-Charizard isn't a good match-up for Charizard, but dash-canceled jabs and USmashes make it winnable.

 

[bubbaking]

Oh, Leelue knows about the usmashes. It's the dash cancelled jabs I haven't worked into my regimen... Working on it, though.

 

[ph00tbag]

That's the thing. Those particular matchup strategies rely on maintaining a "wall" of hitboxes to keep the less-favored character at bay. If they can't get around the hitboxes, then their only option is to try to overwhelm the hitboxes, and since they can't do that either, they're kinda stuck.

What I'm trying to suggest, particularly in Sonic's case, is that he has the speed to get around the hitboxes. You just have to be very patient and precise in your punishes. No lingering hitbox is fully persistent, and there's always downtime, so just punish during the downtime.

It's basically the same argument for why Taokaka is consistently considered a strong character in BB. Her hitboxes look like total **** from any perspective (her drive attacks don't extend past her hurtboxes at all), and it's certainly conceivable that one would lose terribly if one just ran into hitboxes with her, but it's the distance she can cover to punish attacks on reaction that makes her absurdly strong. Sonic has a lot of similar tools.

 

[ELI-mination]

Where are all these tool-assisted Sonic players

 

[Yobolight]

Why did you guys take out all of Lucas's cool technical stuff like the PK fire super jump and magnet boosting?

Also whats up with all these charge moves? (Ivysaur, Lucas) That ain't melee.

Ike is also completely broken and needs a big nerf.

 

[stingers]

because he has new super cool technical stuff instead. magnet pull would be so broken now omg ._.

 

[leelue]

Where are all these tool-assisted Sonic players

Ex

wait for it

actly

Also whats up with all these charge moves? (Ivysaur, Lucas) That ain't melee.

tweaks on existing mechanics in a sequel? That aint history

Ike is also completely broken and needs a big nerf.

Have you been lurking for the last 6 months and are making a really subtle parody of people's complaints? Because your entire post is dead on.

 

[ELI-mination]

Lol yea. Just the suggestion that Sonic can avoid getting hit for the entirety of a match that isn't on like Dreamland and deal enough damage with his weak moves, get a kill at 200% every stock, while avoiding every attack perfectly without the ability to out-prioritize anything makes me chuckle.

That on top of being challenged to fight a Sonic when I play against "arguably" (nah, unarguably) the best Sonic player every week for hours upon hours.

 

[DMG]

Whoever linked the OU stats:

How in the hell are Gengar and Ninetails above Terrakion??? Some of these numbers and spots are fwabababa

 

[UltiMario]

The stats make little sense even for people that actually play Pokemon

Don't worry about it lol

 

[Oro?!]

Nah Leelue it's the same because Sonic 2.1 side-b is ********.

NY is clearly too good for Chicago though, especially with all of their strong showings at FC/Big House2.

**** the Knicks.

 

[Comeback Kid]

Also whats up with all these charge moves? (Ivysaur, Lucas) That ain't melee.

Because going from charging up using a single move (DK Samus Marth Jiggs etc.) to charging up using multiple moves is such a big jump right?

 

[Strong Badam]

NY is clearly too good for Chicago though, especially with all of their strong showings at FC/Big House2.

#shotsfired

 

[ELI-mination]

Oh you didn't take a plane out to Antarctica?
You obviously can't beat the Eskimos.

 

[JOE!]

DDD is from Antarctica cus penguin, there are no Eskimos down there

#Themoreyouknow

 

[The Good Doctor]

DDD is from Antarctica cus penguin, there are no Eskimos down there

#Themoreyouknow

Actually, D3 is from Pop Star which is the planet Dream Land is located.

 

[Hylian]

MO tournament from last weekend:


Bracket: http://imgur.com/SVHy5

1. Dekuschrub
2. Strong Bad
3. Hylian
4. Darkatma
5. RFrizzle
5. Geno Blast
7. Fishburne
7. Cookiemonsta
9. Tmacc
9. ihavejaceballs [Jace]
9. King Siegfried
9. Zivilyn Bane
13. DJ
13. Terrence
13. Daniel the Seraph :ganon:
13. Tim
17. Sam
17. Terral
17. Yeezy

 

[leelue]

Funniest rebuttal ever

 

[ELI-mination]

MO tournament from last weekend:


Bracket: http://imgur.com/SVHy5

1. Dekuschrub
2. Strong Bad
3. Hylian
4. Darkatma
5. RFrizzle
5. Geno Blast
7. Fishburne
7. Cookiemonsta
9. Tmacc
9. ihavejaceballs [Jace]
9. King Siegfried
9. Zivilyn Bane
13. DJ
13. Terrence
13. Daniel the Seraph :ganon:
13. Tim
17. Sam
17. Terral
17. Yeezy

Good **** Hylian and Strong Bad

(Hylian you should have used the Eli shield more)

 

[leelue]

When is strongbad coming to the **** zone your house Eli

 

[stingers]

who is deku and how did he **** everybody?

 

[Strong Badam]

deku is a MW fox main, he beat darkatma in the melee bracket at the same tournament. he's really solid. our sets were both close (3-2 and 3-1) but I made some mistakes, it could have gone either way. he's really good though.

 

[Hylian]

Good **** Hylian and Strong Bad

(Hylian you should have used the Eli shield more)

LOL yeah, I should have.

I'm cursed to always get third .

Edit: And yeah deku is a really good melee fox player. I never actually got to play him and he refused to play me in friendlies after the tournament . 1st and 2nd in melee were deku/darkatma.

 

[bubbaking]

Sonic is ****ing stupid, I have no idea what I'm supposed to do against him, I have no clue what he's doing, and he's so ****ing fast.

Rat is powerful indeed.

Release Samus so I don't have to deal with this crap please?

This is generally the first impression everyone gets when they face a good Sonic for the first time. I've played three decent/good Sonics in my entire PM experience so far (I've played more Sonics, but they weren't good, lolz). The first one (good) made me realize that Sonic is a really cool character. The second (better) convinced me that Sonic sucks really bad. The third one (Leelue) showed me that Sonic really isn't that bad.....until you've played him for about an hour to figure out how he works. That first time is just really, really surprising....like inserting yourself into a new country and experiencing culture shock. As Leelue said:

Fighting sonic is an acquired skill.

I do really want Samus to be released, though.

I've pretty much given up debating characters and MU's in this topic because it usually boils down to something like,

"I believe this character is ________ and _______ because of _______"

"No, you wrong. Do you even play the character? Do you even play the game? I'm obviously correct and know this game better then you."

That's pretty much how every MU discussion in here and vBrawl turns out. I'm sorry, but I don't see this kind of thing in Melee discussions. This is one aspect that the PMBR simply couldn't port over into their 'spiritual Melee sequel.'

It's still the same thing, though. Just with a larger Kink and some Link to decorate it and make it look more professional than it actually is.

Fixed that for ya.

Which even then I don't think on smashmods we even concluded what was the worst match-up in the game was(there was a thread there for that q?).

Personally, I think the worst MU in P:M right now is either Lucario:Zard or Lucario:G&W. He just destroys both of them...