Project M Social Thread

[Shadow Huan]

the animation is better tho, since it's closer to how Marth actually does it in his games lol. i agree it certainly is much more limited in uses

 

[Life]

Close to impossible to do? Where have I heard that before...

 

[Archangel]

Close to impossible to do? Where have I heard that before...

Next thing you know someone is going to post that Theory in Motion video.

 

[Juushichi]

GaW's dair has a meteor portion right? And his Up-b comes out on frame one... Could he potentially have pillar combos a la falco (although most certainly not as good)? Also, uair has amazingly low knockback and lag for juggling. I think he, along with sonic, is better than most people take him for at first sight, better than zard at least, but may still need some work to meet the standards of the rest of the cast.

There are a lot of small things that make current GnW interesting as a character, I think (DACUS is pretty great)... but ultimately he's not canon-y and too much glass-y to really be effective barring completely outplaying the other player. This coming from a P:M GnW main from Demo 1. I wish he could air dodge out of Up-B again.

 

[ph00tbag]

Manipulating your pikmin order instead of merely reacting to it is the only hard part and it becomes auto with enough practice anyway.

You say this as though everyone gets line manipulation. A quick glance through a lot of previous posts about Olimar reveals that not everyone does.

The fact that just about everyone and their brother wants Pluck to be slower should tell you just how poorly Olimar is understood.

 

[9Kplus1]

do people still think sonic is bad? i thought the wizzy vids would show something but i guess people will just have to play him i guess.

I saw nothing which Leelue wouldn't do better in a similar environment.

 

[GHNeko]

Someone should like me to Wiizzy's vids. V:

And Leelue. :V

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S837cfp_yjE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJnvQMh6hXQ

Now where are Wiz's Sonic videos?

 

[leelue]

smashmods.com/forum/thread-5083-post-90602.html#pid90602

All of my matches there are sadly against Ryan K, who is pretty close to being the best player in the state, if not actually so.
A lot of our matches were trolling, but I know sonic falcon was serious

Also in the list yoshi gave you, I should have sets that day in losers against cmart, vist, plank, and chillin. In that order I think.

 

[ELI-mination]

smashmods.com/forum/thread-5083-post-90602.html#pid90602

All of my matches there are sadly against Ryan K, who is pretty close to being the best player in the state, if not actually so.
A lot of our matches were trolling, but I know sonic falcon was serious

Also in the list yoshi gave you, I should have sets that day in losers against cmart, vist, plank, and chillin. In that order I think.

Naaaaaaaah.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

Nothing against ryan k but eli is 100% right on this one

 

[ELI-mination]

Well we're talking about Project M, not melee. Leelue is right I'm just kinda trolling him because I think I'm better.

 

[ph00tbag]

Eli's signature is amazing.

 

[GP&B]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S837cfp_yjE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJnvQMh6hXQ

Now where are Wiz's Sonic videos?

http://www.youtube.com/user/Zorothemetalone

 

[Vaerix]

smashmods.com/forum/thread-5083-post-90602.html#pid90602

All of my matches there are sadly against Ryan K, who is pretty close to being the best player in the state, if not actually so.
A lot of our matches were trolling, but I know sonic falcon was serious

Also in the list yoshi gave you, I should have sets that day in losers against cmart, vist, plank, and chillin. In that order I think.

Sonic games:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2klOQHZUqo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j3m1olUDPQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j3m1olUDPQ

Said matches from VG Boot Camp

 

[`dazrin]

am i the only person that thinks olimar can't be melee-ified?

Have faith in the PMBR.

 

[KOkingpin]

How can people think G and W is bad when he can short hop double bacon. My faith in humanity slips.

 

[Mr.Pickle]

People tend to over look stuff like that, so prove them wrong with the bacon skipper.

 

[Sanity's_Theif]

My brother has an unnaturally good Ganon for someone who basically just picked him up

Ganon ditto match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ur4bT5c-mBY&feature=youtu.be

 

[Spoon~]

Just solidified me a spot at Big House 2 for PM, make sure to do the same for yourself before they fill up!

 

[ruhtraeel]

Ok so I gave P:M another try. I do not intend to treat it like Melee or use any of my spacies in it, I am treating it like an entirely different game (I personally don't agree with the title "Melee 2.0")

Why is there Toon Link but no Roy? IMO the playstyle of Roy vs Marth was much more different than Link vs Young Link. Roy was a fast SHFFL'er with more similar combos to Fox than Marth. Is it just because there needs to be a Jiggs counter? (I am going to play Jiggs, Hbox style)

 

[Spoon~]

Ok so I gave P:M another try. I do not intend to treat it like Melee or use any of my spacies in it, I am treating it like an entirely different game (I personally don't agree with the title "Melee 2.0")

Why is there Toon Link but no Roy? IMO the playstyle of Roy vs Marth was much more different than Link vs Young Link. Roy was a fast SHFFL'er with more similar combos to Fox than Marth. Is it just because there needs to be a Jiggs counter? (I am going to play Jiggs, Hbox style)

No roy because no clone engine

 

[iLink]

Because they do not want to remove any characters and it is currently impossible to add more characters without replacing another.

Ninja'd

 

[leelue]

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Lee Lue is an S-Tier

Ah.........

 

[drsusredfish]

Ok so I gave P:M another try. I do not intend to treat it like Melee or use any of my spacies in it, I am treating it like an entirely different game (I personally don't agree with the title "Melee 2.0")

Why is there Toon Link but no Roy? IMO the playstyle of Roy vs Marth was much more different than Link vs Young Link. Roy was a fast SHFFL'er with more similar combos to Fox than Marth. Is it just because there needs to be a Jiggs counter? (I am going to play Jiggs, Hbox style)

dang sounds like it tortures you to play. why not play the spacies like they're slightly different since its an "entirely different" game.

 

[ruhtraeel]

Because they do not want to remove any characters and it is currently impossible to add more characters without replacing another.

Ninja'd

But they removed Olimar...

 

[Spoon~]

But they removed Olimar...

The didn't remove anyone, they just aren't ready to be played.

 

[iLink]

But they removed Olimar...

No they didn't...

The game you are playing is just a demo. Notice it says DEMO when you boot it up? All the characters aren't finished.

EDIT: Dammit spoon

 

[ruhtraeel]

dang sounds like it tortures you to play. why not play the spacies like they're slightly different since its an "entirely different" game.

I'm not going to play anyone I played in Melee or Brawl, so I'm going with someone that doesn't take much tech skill and can just press buttons (Jiggs)

Although, I did try the spacies out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3EkoDKaVA0

 

[ss118]

I don't think Charizard and G+W are the worst characters by any means. If anything I really think that Wario is mediocre as all get out, which is bad in this game.

The only other characters that I feel are underwhelming in any regard are Wolf, Lucas, and Pit. I think that's probably because I don't use any of them and the only one I've played against are my friend's(who has trouble making Sheik seem good vs Marth in melee), so that's probably the reason. Wolf and Lucas I think have potential just because of the nature of their "shines" which I haven't tapped into yet. Pit might also be really good once we have more control of his arrows. Regardless, I hold the opinion that Wario is very mediocre, and therefore the worst character.

 

[leelue]

Ok
Maybe
I can admit that sonic is better than Charizard and GW
Wario? IDK. That Dsmash is nuts. He's a character I really don't know well.

 

[iLink]

Wario's air mobility alone makes it hard for me to consider him mediocre.

 

[leelue]

That too
10 toos

 

[Revven]

Anyone who thinks Wario is crap needs to watch this match: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KG4_gX2wOY4&feature=plcp

 

[JediKnightTemplar]

Hey guys, we are always looking for people to apply to the backroom. Even if you aren't a playtester, we can always use help from people are good at programming, modelling, animating, photoshop, video editing, and other stuff.

What do you want in an application for video editing and/or Photoshop?

 

[Mr.Pickle]

Lol ****ing reflex, he definitely makes that character look fun to play.

 

[DrinkingFood]

Well... He was using buffer there. Lol.
JK buffer hardly affects wario except that breaking shield pressure becomes supar easyar
Which is a big deal if you're playing against Spacies
Which he was...

 

[Life]

>sonic with a buffer is good
>"Oh, it's just the buffer, wait till he turns it off"
>posts link to video of wario with buffer

Nah, but seriously, I have no idea how wario is supposed to be played so I can't really tell if he's as bad as everyone says.

 

[Archangel]

Wario has too much end lag. Cut end lag of his moves in half or at least 1/3 and he's instantly top tier.

 

[abcool]

Wario is NOT a bad character. Picture Samus in Melee without good players like HugS to show off the potential. She only has a few bad matchups, but it's how effectively you use the character that counts. Wario is the same he just doesn't have flashy moves. So people think he sucks.