`dazrin
Smash Champion
Zbombing VS Tbombing
Tbombing wins
Tbombing wins
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abcool
Smash Ace
Can someone tell me how to use Ike's TKO move?
`dazrin
Smash Champion
Charge Ike's QD until it's fully charged, then press B while Ike is inside his opponent as he zooms past them. If timed correctly, you'll get the Critical Hit.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
There's a little visual spark for the hitbox when you hit B too.
PGH Carroll
Smash Master
Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
That was already kind of a link in Brawl but I'll look into it. Again, the added landing lag to Zair makes options out of it more limited than in Brawl.
As others have already said, I haven't found too much use for zair aside from defensive poking. I will try to play around with it more though and see if I find anything useful. As far as upsmashing goes, it's a good move but utilt just leads to so many more things. I can get a 60-80% combo off an utilt or even a gimp(utilt -> bair -> up-b) depending on DI. Upsmash I use as a mix-up when I think they will spotdodge or something to that extent.
And thanks!
AGT zair aside from recovery is mainly good defensively. AGT in general with bombs is amazing and totally worth it.
Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
Link's Zair to DACUS is a true combo.
I actually didn't know link could Dacus lol. I guess I just never tried it and assumed it was taken out o.O. Time to come up with more tricks now! lol
Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
Link's DACUS in Brawl went hella far. It was really nice and DAC bomb tosses were pretty neat too. Link in general was slidey with his ATs in Brawl. In P:M, his DAC stuff does not go nearly as far as it used to.
Lucas, Link, Snake, Wario, Ganon and, to a lesser extend, falco have a usable dacus.
Wolf has one similar to how sheik's is performed in vbrawl. Not sure if sheik can still do her vbrawl dacus, haven't tried it.
Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
I'd also like to confirm that a perfect SH Zair can get you both hits of the Zair. This is like discovering Link's metagame all over again :D The good old days.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
Love using AGT with bombs. I almost never throw bombs without doing it.
jalued
Smash Lord
It's almost as if it was intentional...
great news though, and I hope hylian finds some awesome DACUS/zair combos :D
`dazrin
Smash Champion
Sheik does not have a dacus in PM.
Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
Really? AGT bomb throws feel really awkward for me. I only do them for that "third jump" for recovery. And it's an auto bomb jump (pretty much).
EDIT: Quick note about the zair, you can't really FF. If you FF a zair, you'll only get one hit. Link falls fast enough on his own though, so no biggy really.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
It's great for positioning and as Tink, well-spaced forward AGT throws can immediately put you in favorable position for following up. I also upward AGT throw down for stalling out spawn invincibility often. I mosty do it backwards away from the opponent as a keep away.
Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
I guess I'm still not quite up to par with the whole P:M exclusive ATs yet. I feel old school with my bombs now. 
Divinokage
Smash Legend
What would you use Dacus for anyway?
Life
Smash Hero
Upsmashing people obviously
I could never do Sheik's vbrawl DACUS
I could never do Sheik's vbrawl DACUS
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
I had this issue too a long time ago. Trust me, the hit lag issue goes away. You just need to make yourself wait a tiny bit longer before sliding over to X (or whatever you use to jump). After a while it gets much easier to do and should become pretty natural to do out of shine.
jalued
Smash Lord
You do remember that you main ganon right? The character with one of the largest DACUSes in the game...
You can combo into DACUS, use it to punish spotdodges etc.
Try it out, ganon's dacus is insane
9Kplus1
Smash Master
Occasionally replacing dash attack in tech chases, covering a large amount of ground in a short amount of time while remaining a threat, pongoing Ganon's crotch on the faces of many, etc
Given your status as the Warrior and Smash's own Prince of Darkness, such a maneuver fits you pretty well...
Are you aware of the special method you had to do it with sheik in vbrawl? You need to do the same to get wolf's. I just haven't tried it with sheik myself.
Ganon's is pretty decent to tech chase with or to use against someone on a platform as a quick surprise attack since it's so fast and long.
i know right? man i love classic tails.
once i back to my old skill level ill be glad to sing on stream again.
Tech Chasing. It's less predictable than dash attacks imo since you can reach farther from a stand still. You can also charge the usmash so you can delay when you hit which is something you cant do with dash attack without just running for a while which kinda gives them a better idea of what you might do.
ss118
Smash Master
I don't know where to put this so I'll put it here;
I'm articanus. I play melee competitively and I've been to a few tournaments. Regardless of such, me and a few friends are streaming project m live, so feel free to watch and enjoy/ say we suck! xD
http://www.twitch.tv/articanus
I'm articanus. I play melee competitively and I've been to a few tournaments. Regardless of such, me and a few friends are streaming project m live, so feel free to watch and enjoy/ say we suck! xD
http://www.twitch.tv/articanus
GimR
GimR, Co-Founder of VGBootCamp
Project M @ Xanadu is now live. http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp
ss118
Smash Master
well that's a bit hard to compete with. ._.'
can someone at least come onto our stream and tell us if you can hear us talk lol.
also charizard nair OP.
can someone at least come onto our stream and tell us if you can hear us talk lol.
also charizard nair OP.
It sounds like you're underwater, I mean I can hear you, but it sounds a bit weird.
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
Sounds like dubstep on your stream ss.
GP&B
Ike 'n' Ike
I can't seem to load up any streams right now.
KOkingpin
Smash Champion
If they Tech away from Side B then Most of the cast is actually in the perfect spot to land a DACUS. It all depends on your timing after that.
Jiangjunizzy
Smash Lord
Apply to the backroom!
Hey guys, we are always looking for people to apply to the backroom. Even if you aren't a playtester, we can always use help from people are good at programming, modelling, animating, photoshop, video editing, and other stuff.
Right now, we would really like to wrap up the next batch of character tweaks (i'm not confirming anything, so please dont assume anything!) -- we are particularly looking for crews that are very good at the game that are willing to stress test characters for us and most importantly post videos. And just an fyi, posting videos and images and samples of your work helps your application 100-fold.
Here's the link to the app forum:
http://www.smashmods.com/forum/forum-91.html
thanks.
Hey guys, we are always looking for people to apply to the backroom. Even if you aren't a playtester, we can always use help from people are good at programming, modelling, animating, photoshop, video editing, and other stuff.
Right now, we would really like to wrap up the next batch of character tweaks (i'm not confirming anything, so please dont assume anything!) -- we are particularly looking for crews that are very good at the game that are willing to stress test characters for us and most importantly post videos. And just an fyi, posting videos and images and samples of your work helps your application 100-fold.
Here's the link to the app forum:
http://www.smashmods.com/forum/forum-91.html
thanks.
cannedbread
Smash Lord
am i the only person that thinks olimar can't be melee-ified?
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
Olimar needs a dramatic design shift. Neko had some great ideas for how to do it based around stance change, longer living Pikmin, and keeping the same Pikmin in the front after it attacks. I expanded upon the ideas a bit to include a slower standard B pluck, and only 3 (maybe 4?) pikmin at once, to standardize his character design.
I really need to figure out how to animate better so I can stand a chance of having an impact on this game.
I really need to figure out how to animate better so I can stand a chance of having an impact on this game.
leelue
Smash Lord
I'm annoyed by the fact that I'll never win a tournament with sonic. Damn Eli
I personally think people who don't think Olimar can be Melee-ified have a painfully narrow view of what the Melee playstyle comprises.
I also think most people who comment on Olimar have a painfully shallow understanding of how much work went into playing the character in Brawl.
I also think most people who comment on Olimar have a painfully shallow understanding of how much work went into playing the character in Brawl.
9Kplus1
Smash Master
Life
Smash Hero
Olimar could be transfered to PM nearly one-for-one (barring obvious changes like the airdodge and maybe some pikmin AI issues) and be perfectly fine.
Actually he would probably be pretty underpowered if you did a 1-1 transition. Olimar would have even bigger problems of Pikmin priority losing to stuff with spacies Falcon etc hovering around him constantly, he would lose a lot of OOS punishes/rolling easier to punish. His recovery would be awful even by Melee standards, and the only thing that would salvage him would be new combos like Usmashing multiple times, maybe Uthrow CGing etc. Brawl Olimar works in a slower game.
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