Project M Social Thread

[Supreme Dirt]

I like how neither of you gave any sort of justification for your opinions on the stage. Personally I agree with Xebenkeck though- the platforms are large enough to be a factor but placed well enough to not be in the way if the players so choose.

Brawl stage mentality. I don't feel the need to bring it into this thread.

Also, I personally believe that a true neutral stage is MU-specific, it isn't the stage which keeps the ratio the closest to the perceived amount, but keeps the ratio closest to 50:50.

 

[Kink-Link5]

This is why stage striking was invented in the first place

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Yep. Which is why I wholly disagree with PS2 being the perfect neutral.

Oh also, with the second demo, will there be a text file accompanying it this time? I'd really like to not have to pull shenanigans to add several aesthetic codes this time.

 

[Shadic]

Oh also, with the second demo, will there be a text file accompanying it this time? I'd really like to not have to pull shenanigans to add several aesthetic codes this time.

Doubtful. We're still heavily in development.

 

[Xebenkeck]

PS2 to me is "most" neutral because from what I have seen, and played in demo 1. It very rarly gives a character any significant advantage over the other. Stages like FD obviously give certain characters advantage, battlefield you NEVER want to be on the top platform unless you are camping hardcore like YL or Jiggly or Peach. And the high blastzone really favors fox/falco/falcon Dreamland heavily favors floaties. Marth's and Falco on Yoshi's.


PS2 from what I've seen doesn't really benefit/demote anyone. Everyone can strut their stuff there. The blast zones are very fair. And the platform layout is really good. The platforms offer enough mobility options to avoid campers but also allow you to continue offence and strings.

Also I do agree with you Supreme Dirt that the "most neutral stage" changes depending on match-up, hence the stage striking. That said I think Ps2(P:M version) would be agreed to on a higher frequency then say Dreamland/FD/FoD for the starting match. I hope that makes sense lol.

 

[JCaesar]

Smashville

 

[Kink-Link5]

Smashville is pretty neutral when you can't gay it up with gliding.

 

[Xebenkeck]

gay it up

Lol.

Isn't it sad that this is a legitamate term/strategy that everyone understands its meaning. (especially when it applies to Smashville)

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Doubtful. We're still heavily in development.

-_-

Figures.

 

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

Something inside of me is telling me that there will not be a demo 3

Prolly not but 1 month after the Demo 2 release people will be screaming for it

 

[MonkUnit]

I'm sure people will still be saying things like "omg how could X character not be included in demo 2?? I used this character all the time in melee / brawl"

Sort of like Demo 1 and people saying why isn't Peach, samus, etc. included.

 

[Kink-Link5]

Depending on the status of Demo 2, I believe it is a very real possibility that if a Demo 3 were made, it would include almost every if not every character.

 

[Xebenkeck]

So just curious is Demo2(and 1 for that matter) your guys form of "Beta" testing? Getting the game into other peoples hands to test the balance, mechanics, potential problems, get reaction etc. Or do plan on doing a differnt ttype of form of Beta testing?

Also for those that don't know:
Alpha testing is testing done by developers exclusively, the people who made the game.

Beta testing is giving the game to people not on developement team to further test it. I.E. Capcom giving mvC3 to certain professional players to test.

 

[Juushichi]

I think Demo 3 will probably be called "Full Release", but that's probably just me.

Smashville is kinda big, imo. Especially with the smaller character models. Like, it seems bigger than FD actually.

@ Xeben: I would think so. Fly and all the playtesters have been playing around with it for a long time now.

 

[MonkUnit]

If FoD didn't lag, do you think it'd make a good doubles stage?

 

[Supreme Dirt]

No.

It's far too small.

Almost as bad as Yoshi's.

 

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

http://vocaroo.com/?media=vC3uiS86V2KGc3zNG


Ike's only difficulty in recovering comes from when he's far below and far to the side of the stage. Other than that, he has some pretty solid options, and I don't really think that he needs much improvement. He's a heavy character that can basically wall-jump from a huge distance away.

Fixed

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26534647/shadicfixed.wav

 

[MonkUnit]

No.

It's far too small.

Almost as bad as Yoshi's.

Really? I don't really feel that YS is too small for doubles. Sure it's a bit cramped in the beginning, but once people start comboing each other / knocking them away, you get more room to work with.

 

[Crispy4001]

I think Demo 3 will probably be called "Full Release", but that's probably just me.

There'd be no reason to not call it "Public Beta." Might as well leave room for an update in case it proves nessicary.

 

[9Kplus1]

FoD is great for double Bowser

 

[Jonas]

It's better for triple Bowser with no friendly fire.

 

[♡ⓛⓞⓥⓔ♡]

I'm having wet dreams of Nintendo hiring Project M Back-room to make the next Smash installment

 

[Kink-Link5]

I like to think of the Public demos less as open betas and more as rewards from the PMBR for everyone's patience. The PMBR has no logical reason to release an extremely incomplete work to the public's eye simply for "beta testing." Be grateful for what you get and don't be greedy.

 

[Shadic]

So just curious is Demo2(and 1 for that matter) your guys form of "Beta" testing? Getting the game into other peoples hands to test the balance, mechanics, potential problems, get reaction etc. Or do plan on doing a different type of form of Beta testing?

It's a valuable way to 1) Maintain/increase hype 2) Gauge public opinion on various aspects of the game 3) Vastly increase the amount of people actively playtesting and giving feedback.

While that does appear more or less synonymous with the term "beta," we prefer the term public demo.

Unfortunately Demo 1 is too outdated to be of use anymore for much of anything besides giving a super-rough teaser for people not fluent in Melee's finer mechanics.

I'm having wet dreams of Nintendo hiring Project M Back-room to make the next Smash installment

Me too.

 

[MaxThunder]

It's better for triple Bowser with no friendly fire.

It's even better for quadruple bowser with no friendly fire...

yeah... you can actually do that... there's no point though...

 

[Jonas]

I guess you don't know about the Bowser Challenge

 

[standardtoaster]

Bowser challenge is amazing. I'm not sure if anyone has ever beaten it, though.

 

[Supreme Dirt]

Bowser Challenge: M seems like it'd be terrifying.

 

[genkaku]

I hope that the camera still shakes every time bowser moves. It is by far my favorite part of PM, haha.

 

[9Kplus1]

Kage beat the Falco Challenge, if that means anything.

 

[Shadic]

I'm more worried about the Kage challenge, to be quite honest.

 

[Jonas]

Bowser challenge is amazing. I'm not sure if anyone has ever beaten it, though.

You don't "beat" the Bowser challenge. It's more like a high-score challenge (who can take most stocks before being horribly mauled to death by three angry Koopas?).

Btw that match is nostalgic. It looks like it was recorded at 0C2

 

[MonkUnit]

I hope that the camera still shakes every time bowser moves. It is by far my favorite part of PM, haha.

If you go to the Madison tourney this Feb. 11th, I'd love to do the Bowser: M challenge with you.

 

[9Kplus1]

If you come to MD, I'd love to Kage:M Challenge with you.

 

[MaxThunder]

I guess you don't know about the Bowser Challenge

of course i do... still saying that FoD is better for 4 bowsers...they whole stage would be bowser...

the fact that there's nothing to attack them doesn't concern me...

 

[Jonas]

I've no objections to that

 

[Archangel]

I just noticed I had 2 whole posts removed from this thread. Get *****.

BTW....Pit looks alot closer to done then ever before....what are the chances of him being near complete enough to be in demo 2?

 

[Shadic]

Approximately 33.33%, repeating of course.

 

[Archangel]

As long as there is a shot I'm happy. Anyway I can help? I have 2 pages full of pit ideas(most of which have been implemented :D)

 

[Stevo]

Approximately 33.33%, repeating of course.

im coming up with 32.33 percent, repeating of course, chance of survival Pit being in demo 2



Leeroy Jenkins should do the intro to Project M

PROJEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEECCCCTTTTT

MEEELEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I don't even play WoW, but I always found that funny. Plus his voice is awesome.