Project M Social Thread

[Supreme Dirt]

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Version 3 however will likely have a bunch.

 

[Stunts]

Something inside of me is telling me that there will not be a demo 3

 

[GP&B]

So when you select Random in PM demo 2, you just get sandbag.

 

[9Kplus1]

How many chars will be in the next version of the demo?

Not even the devs know. Though, rest assured that most of the characters from the demo will be making a return, with a sufficient amount of changes. From our perspective, though -- and the strong hopes of Project:M followers -- Lucario, DK, Wario, Zero Suit Samus, Charizard, Pit, Ike, and Ness are ready for the next release as well. Characters such as Squirtle, Luigi, Peach, and Toon Link still require a few tweaks before being considered acceptable for public contact; other characters, namely Kirby, Olimar, Meta Knight, and Ice Climbers still require a lot of changes, before even being considered viable.

Lucas is just... ugh, ask a PMBR member about him.

Oh, and ROB is JC tier, meaning that he's certainly not ready for the next release

 

[robosteven]

So when you select Random in PM demo 2, you just get sandbag.

...and thus explaining why random is top tier.

 

[Mattnumbers]

Realize that we're talking about Sheik in Melee, a notoriously dominant character with very few bad matchups, with Zelda covering the rest of her bases.

Find the number of unfavorable matchups Sheik may have on one hand.
See if Zelda could do any better in those matchups.

The fact that Sheik herself is still so very good doesn't leave many characters for Zelda to upskirt, except for the one possibility of Ice Climbers if they ever begin working properly. If you can beat a good Sheik, you can most assuredly beat their equivalent Zelda if you spent any time learning how to fight the character.

Except we AREN'T talking about melee sheik, we are talking about sheik in P:M. All those characters she dominated in Melee have been buffed very significantly. If this didn't result in sheik having more bad matchups, then we would have a new problem in that sheik would be too powerful compared to the rest of the cast.

And transform got all the lag taken off the end of the move so it's not as punishable.

 

[metroid1117]

Not even the devs know. Though, rest assured that most of the characters from the demo will be making a return. From our perspective, though -- and the strong hopes of Project:M followers -- Lucario, DK, Wario, Zero Suit Samus, and Ness are ready for the next release as well.

Ike, Wolf, Charizard, Bowser, and ROB also seem likely to be featured in Demo 2. However, I'd personally be willing to give up some characters in exchange for fixes/edits to the game mechanics (non-sticky techs, Melee edge techs, momentum active on frame 1, etc.).

 

[robosteven]

Ike, Wolf, Charizard, Bowser, and ROB also seem likely to be featured in Demo 2. However, I'd personally be willing to give up some characters in exchange for fixes/edits to the game mechanics (non-sticky techs, Melee edge techs, momentum active on frame 1, etc.).

Luigi would be nice, too.

 

[Shadic]

How many chars will be in the next version of the demo?

Between 14 and 30.

 

[kaizo13]

Between 14 and 30.

can't get more accurate than that

 

[Spoon~]

Between 14 and 30.

I imagined this in the deepest voice possible.

 

[Starbound]

I'm really hoping Peach makes it in Demo 2. From the looks from the streams, she looks pretty much complete (though I know nothing about modding so I wouldn't know if there're any bugs haha).

Seems like there will be a nice assortment of characters in the demo, which will be nice. Based on some replies, it doesn't sound like Lucas will be returning for demo 2. Wonder if anyone else will get cut.

 

[ValTroX]

turnips don't work on shield like the do in melee, I would be surprised if she makes it.

 

[`dazrin]

I just want toonlink in the next demo. i wouldn't care if there were only 8 characters- if toonlink was one of them, i'd be very happy

 

[Stunts]

I just want toonlink in the next demo. i wouldn't care if there were only 8 characters- if toonlink was one of them, i'd be very happy

**Brofist**

 

[`dazrin]

**brofist right back**

 

[JediKnightTemplar]

PS2 in P:M is the most neutral stage allignmment in Smash I've seen so far.

I wholly disagree.

I like how neither of you gave any sort of justification for your opinions on the stage. Personally I agree with Xebenkeck though- the platforms are large enough to be a factor but placed well enough to not be in the way if the players so choose.

 

[AeonClock]

turnips don't work on shield like the do in melee, I would be surprised if she makes it.

AFAIK turnips were fixed already.

 

[9Kplus1]

The stage transformations are too ****ing silly.

PS2 is great for 15-year old Brawl players who don't drink or smoke. For every other player, though, it's pretty balls.

 

[genkaku]

PM's current Battlefield is probably more neutral stage available, all things considered.
Does frozen PS2 have the same blastzones as PS1?

 

[standardtoaster]

Genkaku, we should set up some time where monk and I can drive down to milwaukee to play imo.

 

[ClinkStryphart]

I personally wouldn't mind any of the lists stated above. I do have a question or rather a suggestion for Ike:M though feel free to shoot it down due to it has to do with his recovery but could you make his recovery sorta like that of sonics. I believe it would help him alot I cant say for sure if he needs it or not. only the devs would know.

by the above I mean like for example for a return do QD>if secondary jump is saved allow to cancel at the end of QD's dash to jump > up B. If he uses his second jump before QD just would qd to his death like how sonic would with spin dash. (>specialRight/Left Bair)

Again I can't say for sure if it would help him in the long run but it would help him on the stages that really don't have a big wall/pillar type thing to allow him to come back.


Back on topic with stages I too would like to see Peach's Castle 64 make a return as well. I forgot how fun that stage is.

 

[Kink-Link5]

PS2 doesn't have transformations I thought.

 

[Mattnumbers]

It doesn't. 9k is either trolling or an idiot.

or both

 

[Theftz22]

I hope Luigi makes it in.

 

[9Kplus1]

Me? A ? I can't even fathom the thought of trolling.

Oh, and PS2 transforms in the demo

 

[DVDV28]

Just a quick question, how are you guys going to deal with two high tiers (Sheik and Zelda) being interchangeable in terms of tournaments? It was never a problem before since Zelda was never any good, but now that Zelda's good too, their combined efforts could wreck havoc on even more matchups.

Still a legitimate question ^

 

[JCaesar]

http://www.twitch.tv/jcaesar

sup

 

[Shadic]

How many chars will be in the next version of the demo?

Between 14 and 30.

I imagined this in the deepest voice possible.

http://vocaroo.com/?media=vC3uiS86V2KGc3zNG

I do have a question or rather a suggestion for Ike:M though feel free to shoot it down due to it has to do with his recovery but could you make his recovery sorta like that of sonics. I believe it would help him alot I cant say for sure if he needs it or not. only the devs would know.

by the above I mean like for example for a return do QD>if secondary jump is saved allow to cancel at the end of QD's dash to jump > up B. If he uses his second jump before QD just would qd to his death like how sonic would with spin dash. (>specialRight/Left Bair)

Ike's only difficulty in recovering comes from when he's far below and far to the side of the stage. Other than that, he has some pretty solid options, and I don't really think that he needs much improvement. He's a heavy character that can basically wall-jump from a huge distance away.

 

[Starbound]

AFAIK turnips were fixed already.

Yeah, I thought this too.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Her Daikons no longer poof on shields, but there is another issue with them to resolve. I think it involves bouncing.

 

[Mattnumbers]

I lol'd irl at that recording Shadic

 

[ValTroX]

AFAIK turnips were fixed already.

If they were, I don't see a reason to hold her back

 

[Shadic]

I lol'd irl at that recording Shadic

So do you need a ride to Gameclucks? I'll be able to serenade you.

 

[Cubelarooso]

I can't even fathom the thought of trolling.

So then, this confirms the "both" option?



What about Zebes? Always preferred it over Brinstar.
Or Sector Z? Best large stage of the series.
YI64, I could do without.

 

[Spoon~]

http://vocaroo.com/?media=vC3uiS86V2KGc3zNG[/url[/QUOTE] My subwoofer exploded

 

[foshio]

Demo 2 yoshi??? (Hoping!)

 

[genkaku]

Genkaku, we should set up some time where monk and I can drive down to milwaukee to play imo.

That'd be neat, but I dunno if it would be worth the drive for you. There are only 3 people that play here, haha.
I really want to try to actually get to the madison tournaments now, so we'll see how that works out, at least.

 

[standardtoaster]

We're going to the madison tourney on the 11th. Hopefully you can make it.

 

[Wavebuster]

Except we AREN'T talking about melee sheik, we are talking about sheik in P:M. All those characters she dominated in Melee have been buffed very significantly. If this didn't result in sheik having more bad matchups, then we would have a new problem in that sheik would be too powerful compared to the rest of the cast.

And transform got all the lag taken off the end of the move so it's not as punishable.

If they have been buffed so significantly, what reason is there to assume that they can't deal with Zelda, too?

Too many what-ifs without letting things take their flow is a bad thing.