firelord767
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http://www.onemanga.com/news/2010/07/31/om-shutdown-update/
MangaFox also took it down.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/pok_mon_adventures/
Seems like it's gone for good. I was just finishing Gold and Silver chapter, too!
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Prof. Oak's Lab: The Q&A Thread - USE THIS
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MangaFox also took it down.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/pok_mon_adventures/
Seems like it's gone for good. I was just finishing Gold and Silver chapter, too!
Fuelbi
Banned via Warnings
Azelf just used Flamethrower on my Jirachi and I didn't see it coming
Would someone mind telling me the set that would most likely use FT?
Would someone mind telling me the set that would most likely use FT?
Wave⁂
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If /a/non scanlations goes down too, I guess I could upload all that I've downloaded from there.
A better question would be what Azelf doesn't run Flamethrower or Fire Punch.
Fuelbi
Banned via Warnings
I dunno, this is like the first time that I've seen an Azelf that isn't a lead
And all I've used as a lead is Swampert so... yeah...
Deathfox30
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Every Azelf should have Flamethrower with the exception of the really rare CB Azelf. It was probably a LO Mixed sweeper. Did it have Life Orb?
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Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
Fuel, Azelf runs like Flamethrower on every set. With the small exception of the Choice Band and Life Orb Physical sets, which use Fire Punch instead.
How come I know this...
How come I know this...
Fuelbi
Banned via Warnings
:/
Because I said all I've EVER seen people use is a lead Azelf and all two of my teams use Swampert as my lead, so that's **** I wouldn't exactly know :/
Because I said all I've EVER seen people use is a lead Azelf and all two of my teams use Swampert as my lead, so that's **** I wouldn't exactly know :/
PowerBomb
Smash Master
Roach, you can always check smogon...
Smogon has the damage calc too, if you wanna do that.
Smogon has the damage calc too, if you wanna do that.
Fuelbi
Banned via Warnings
I was too lazy to check and I don't know how to use those damage calcs quite frankly
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
Smgon's Damage Calculator is pretty easy to read. If you're that lazy you can even use sets from their analyses.
Fuelbi
Banned via Warnings
I don't get it, how are you supposed to know your opponents EVs and IVs?
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
That's why it's a damage calculator. Use it to help ease some predictions, etc.
Aren't you listed as a Pokemon Mentor in the SWF Tutoring Center...?
Aren't you listed as a Pokemon Mentor in the SWF Tutoring Center...?
Fuelbi
Banned via Warnings
Like hell I am, I just never figured out how to use the **** damage calc.
EDIT:
Nevermind, I figured out how to use it. Man this could be great for me in battles
EDIT:
Nevermind, I figured out how to use it. Man this could be great for me in battles
Deathfox30
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It's actually really easy to calculate things. I prefer Libelldra over Smogon myself, but use whatever works better.
Libelldra:
Atk = Attack or Special Attack of the attacking Pokemon (at the bottom the +0-6 is stage) Example: Dragon Dance = +1 Attack
Def = Defense or Special Defense of the Defending Pokemon (at the bottom the +0-6 is stage) Example: Calm Mind = +1 Special Defense
HP = HP of the Defending Pokemon
Base Power = Base Power of the move DO NOT factor in STAB Swampert's Earthquake is 100 not 150
Stealth Rock = x1 is neutral to rock and the others are weak or resistant Example: Yanmega is 4x
Type 1 = What does one of the defending Pokemon's type take from the move (Yanmega x2 for Fire)
Type 2 = What does the other type take from the move (Yanmega x1 for Fire)
Type 1 = Bug Type 2 = Flying
It really doesn't matter which order they're in.
STAB = Same Type Attack Bonus meaning is the move your using the same as one of the Pokemon's types (I'm sure you know what STAB is, just select yes if the move gets it and no if it doesn't)
Abilities = If the attacking or defending Pokemon has an ability that would somehow weaken or power up the attack, it needs to be selected Example: Intimidate/Adaptability
Items = If the attacking or defending Pokemon has an item that would somehow weaken or power up the attack, it needs to be selected Example: Life Orb/Occa Berry
Miscellaneous:
First four are pretty obvious
Weather + = Is the attacking Pokemon getting a weather boost? Example: Kyogre's Surf in rain
Weather - = Is the attacking Pokemon getting a negative weather boost? Example: Surf in Sunny Day
Rock Type = Only check this if you want to calculate how much a special attack will do to a Rock type in sandstorm Example: Focus Blast vs Tyranitar
Wait... how do we know what to put in for atk, def, and HP?
1 Stat Point = 4 EV's
Nature = +/- 10%
Lets say we're trying to figure out Salamence's Attack:
We know it has 306 Attack with an IV of 31 and a neutral nature. Lets say it has 252 Attack EV's and Adamant nature.
306 + (252/4) = 369 This is what we get if we just have 252 Attack EV's and a neutral nature.
369 * .1 = 36.9 + 369 = 405.9 = 406 (I think the game might round that down for some reason, though)
Alternatively, you could just go to Smogon and look, but if you need to do a calculation for like 100 EV's and a + Nature, you'd need to use this method.
Now that we know how to do that we just put everything in and click "Calculate Damage"
Lets try:
252 Timid Heatran's Fire Blast vs 0/0 Modest Yanmega
Atk: 359 + 0
Def: 148 + 0
HP: 313
Base Power: 120
Stealth Rock: x4
Type 1: 2x
Type 2: 1x
STAB: Yes
No items or abilities
Nothing for Miscellaneous
Calculate Damage....
It will do a minimum of 200% and a maximum of about 236% On average it'll do 217%
It also shows you the survival chances of the Pokemon if they have Leftovers and after Stealth Rock
Useful links: Smogon /Libelldra Damage Calculator
SandStorm percents WILL NOT be in the rectangle at the bottom, they will be above that and to the left!THIS IS ONLY FOR ROCK TYPES WHILE IN SANDSTORM
Congrats, you just learned how to use Libelldra damage calculator. Yay. I'll do Smogon's later and edit this post. xD
Edit: And he already figured it out... xD I spent so long on that. :/
Libelldra:
Atk = Attack or Special Attack of the attacking Pokemon (at the bottom the +0-6 is stage) Example: Dragon Dance = +1 Attack
Def = Defense or Special Defense of the Defending Pokemon (at the bottom the +0-6 is stage) Example: Calm Mind = +1 Special Defense
HP = HP of the Defending Pokemon
Base Power = Base Power of the move DO NOT factor in STAB Swampert's Earthquake is 100 not 150
Stealth Rock = x1 is neutral to rock and the others are weak or resistant Example: Yanmega is 4x
Type 1 = What does one of the defending Pokemon's type take from the move (Yanmega x2 for Fire)
Type 2 = What does the other type take from the move (Yanmega x1 for Fire)
Type 1 = Bug Type 2 = Flying
It really doesn't matter which order they're in.
STAB = Same Type Attack Bonus meaning is the move your using the same as one of the Pokemon's types (I'm sure you know what STAB is, just select yes if the move gets it and no if it doesn't)
Abilities = If the attacking or defending Pokemon has an ability that would somehow weaken or power up the attack, it needs to be selected Example: Intimidate/Adaptability
Items = If the attacking or defending Pokemon has an item that would somehow weaken or power up the attack, it needs to be selected Example: Life Orb/Occa Berry
Miscellaneous:
First four are pretty obvious
Weather + = Is the attacking Pokemon getting a weather boost? Example: Kyogre's Surf in rain
Weather - = Is the attacking Pokemon getting a negative weather boost? Example: Surf in Sunny Day
Rock Type = Only check this if you want to calculate how much a special attack will do to a Rock type in sandstorm Example: Focus Blast vs Tyranitar
Wait... how do we know what to put in for atk, def, and HP?
1 Stat Point = 4 EV's
Nature = +/- 10%
Lets say we're trying to figure out Salamence's Attack:
We know it has 306 Attack with an IV of 31 and a neutral nature. Lets say it has 252 Attack EV's and Adamant nature.
306 + (252/4) = 369 This is what we get if we just have 252 Attack EV's and a neutral nature.
369 * .1 = 36.9 + 369 = 405.9 = 406 (I think the game might round that down for some reason, though)
Alternatively, you could just go to Smogon and look, but if you need to do a calculation for like 100 EV's and a + Nature, you'd need to use this method.
Now that we know how to do that we just put everything in and click "Calculate Damage"
Lets try:
252 Timid Heatran's Fire Blast vs 0/0 Modest Yanmega
Atk: 359 + 0
Def: 148 + 0
HP: 313
Base Power: 120
Stealth Rock: x4
Type 1: 2x
Type 2: 1x
STAB: Yes
No items or abilities
Nothing for Miscellaneous
Calculate Damage....
It will do a minimum of 200% and a maximum of about 236% On average it'll do 217%
It also shows you the survival chances of the Pokemon if they have Leftovers and after Stealth Rock
Useful links: Smogon /Libelldra Damage Calculator
SandStorm percents WILL NOT be in the rectangle at the bottom, they will be above that and to the left!THIS IS ONLY FOR ROCK TYPES WHILE IN SANDSTORM
Congrats, you just learned how to use Libelldra damage calculator. Yay. I'll do Smogon's later and edit this post. xD
Edit: And he already figured it out... xD I spent so long on that. :/
Wave⁂
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It's really great, there's virtually no reason you should not run calcs whenever possible.
Wrath`
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Wait, do you guys run calcs while in the middle of a battle?
PowerBomb
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If you don't already know the answer, than yeah, you can. It doesn't take that long to run calcs with smogon's calculator since they have the sets included.
Terywj [태리]
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I do on occasion when I need a crucial switch / target, but that hasn't been happening lately.
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Very, very rarely. I'm pretty accurate with my guesses and a situation I'm not comfortable with moving in is rare. I think I've only done it once to calculate Gengar's Explosion vs 78% Gliscor or something like a year ago because I wanted to go out with a boom. :D
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On another Pokémath-related question, has the formula for caluclating stats been the same since Advance?
For reference:
((((2B+I+E)L)/100)+5)N for all stats other than HP and
((((2B+I+E)L)/100)+10+S) for HP
For reference:
((((2B+I+E)L)/100)+5)N for all stats other than HP and
((((2B+I+E)L)/100)+10+S) for HP
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lets say we have Breloom vs a Serene Grace Blissey. Breloom uses spore and puts it to sleep. The player anticipates a switch.... but thinks the Blissey has natural cure so spores again and also puts the switch in to sleep. Now there are two pokemon asleep at once. What happens, and how can this be avoided? (Never had it happen but I always wondered about it.)
Fuelbi
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Uhhhhh, wouldn't sleep clause prevent that happening? I'm not getting your question too well
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Ya and who would have a serene grace Blissey.
Wrath`
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What generation did sleep clause become necessary?
Terywj [태리]
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Third Gen. I believe.
Serene Grace Blissey is used just about as much as Choice Band Giga Impact Blissey is.
Serene Grace Blissey is used just about as much as Choice Band Giga Impact Blissey is.
PowerBomb
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If it's on Shoddy/PO, then Spore would fail for the switch in.
If it's on a Nintendo DS/Wi-fi, then the Spore would put the other Pokemon to sleep and if your opponent wants to whine, that's their fault. You can't be blamed for thinking that a common Blissey would be their Blissey if they EV/IV stuff.
If it's on a Nintendo DS/Wi-fi, then the Spore would put the other Pokemon to sleep and if your opponent wants to whine, that's their fault. You can't be blamed for thinking that a common Blissey would be their Blissey if they EV/IV stuff.
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Japanese players do. And im talking on the real thing, or in a real live tourny, not lame **** like Shoddy. Don't get me wrong, i'd never be caught dead using a serene grace Blissey but I wonder if the situation ever arised. No one clearly answered my question. And that's fine. It's something that will probly never happen in an actual live tourny.
Wrath`
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So do the Japanese players have a completely different meta game than us?
Terywj [태리]
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But that's why we wanted to specify between if you were using WiFi or Pokemon simulators. With WiFi the asleep Serene Grace Blissey would switchout and the switchin would be put to sleep. On a simulator the switchin would fail to be put asleep due to Sleep Clause.
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yep yep yep yep yep. They are very, very good too, I use to play with them on Pokemon Battle Revolution, and I still watch them on my HG. Their metagame is more advanced than the one Smogon formulated
moar like ****ted out
another fun fact Jirachi and Celebi are banned in their metagame, in fact if you want to make a japanese player rage quit use a scarf flinching Jirachi against them they will almost always forfeit against you.
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I dont hate Smogon. I love them. They made everyone copy pasta the same stratgies making them easy to read as a book and 4-0 at the least.
I do feel bad so many kiddies are playing in a crippled metagame now =/how is telling it how it is trolling?
>implying that you can 4-0 my cutandpasted Smogon team4-0 at the least.
Wave⁂
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laughinggirls.jpghow is telling it how it is trolling?
UltiMario
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SNO just trolls Pokemon boards that aren't Smogon for not being Smogon. You can't even get peace in the Disco Room about being some self-proclaimed Smogon bad***.
Also SNO doesn't even know about the magical power of OU+.
Also SNO doesn't even know about the magical power of OU+.
Pete278
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He still plays on easy mode? *giggle*
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A great conversation filler at bars and parties
@above: is dat an OVErDrIvE reference? :3
Max stat for a base 100 pokemon is 328 with a +nature, 299 neutral. 63 points gained from max EVs. 236 with no evs. 205 with no IVs. Minus 5 from stat formula and the remaining 200 is base stat*2.
Stat formula for non-HP:
(BS*2+IVs+(EVs/4)+5)(nature)
HP is:
BS*2+Lv+IVs+(EVs/4)+10
The only exception is shedinja.
Oh boy do I love pokemath! The formula you have there is almost correct. For my example, I'll use some easy numbers I memorized off smogon.
Max stat for a base 100 pokemon is 328 with a +nature, 299 neutral. 63 points gained from max EVs. 236 with no evs. 205 with no IVs. Minus 5 from stat formula and the remaining 200 is base stat*2.
Stat formula for non-HP:
(BS*2+IVs+(EVs/4)+5)(nature)
HP is:
BS*2+Lv+IVs+(EVs/4)+10
The only exception is shedinja.