Princeton, NJ Melee (summer?) Biweeklies! Next one AFTER APEX

[Eggm]

Eggm always brings a lot of setups so we should be ok.

Terrible attitude!! What if my car breaks down. Or I don't feel like moving madd tv's by myself all the time? The community needs to step it up so I don't have to work so hard.

Assuming I'm not lazy and make it. I'll have 3 tv's and 3 setups. Maybe 4 TV's depending on how many people I bring.

People should still bring anything they were going to bring however. 8 TV's would be hawt 1 for every 2 people there (no waiting).

 

[Melomaniacal]

I'll try to bring a setup.

 

[OBT]

man, i wish i wasn't going on vacation when will the next one be?

 

[Melomaniacal]

Just realized that the concert I'm going to is on the 26th, not the 27th.

This means I cannot bring a setup because one of these will happen:
1) I will come, but leave early. This is only if my ride to the concert is willing to pick me up from here.
2) I do not come at all.

Hopefully I can still go, but if I can't, Palpi may still go.

 

[Nø Ca$h]

streetlight>smash

im seeing them thursday XD

 

[Melomaniacal]

streetlight>smash

im seeing them thursday XD

Agreed, haha.
Tell me what their set list is.

 

[Nø Ca$h]

Agreed, haha.
Tell me what their set list is.

i deff will. hopefully theyl play pointcounterpoint/keasbynights remix like the last time i saw them

 

[Deathknight]

Terrible attitude!! What if my car breaks down. Or I don't feel like moving madd tv's by myself all the time? The community needs to step it up so I don't have to work so hard.

Assuming I'm not lazy and make it. I'll have 3 tv's and 3 setups. Maybe 4 TV's depending on how many people I bring.

People should still bring anything they were going to bring however. 8 TV's would be hawt 1 for every 2 people there (no waiting).

Hey, when I buy a new tv, I'm probably going to be bringing my old one to tournies but until then it's the only one I have and I don't want to risk damaging it or losing it. Problem is it's so hard finding quality CRV-TVs these days. I want lots of AV inputs, widescreen option, and no lag. Can never seem to find that.

 

[Sensei]

So who is coming to this? I need some good training.

 

[CaptainNanD0]

Yo Sensei we got this so far

1.Lunar?
2.Deathknight
3.Balladechina212
4.Melomaniacal+3
5.Smellycat
6.Parallax
7.Teczero?
8.teh_spamerer?
9.Krazyknux+3??
10.Eggm
11.Stric9?
12.Copycat
13.Sneak
14.DJN
15.Nando
16.Mr.F?
17.Sensei

 

[DJ Nintendo]

I'm coming to this. This should be $10 for both doubles and singles since there is no venue fee.

 

[Nø Ca$h]

cant come. no ride

 

[darkoblivion12]

I might consider coming to this, depends what's going on this weekend... I really need more smash...

 

[balladechina212]

I'm coming to this. This should be $10 for both doubles and singles since there is no venue fee.

But having no venue fee is supposed to save money for people who come. Wouldn't this defeat the purpose?

 

[KrazyKnux]

Well the $10 for the tournament is an investment, so it'd be more worth it than $5 investment in a tournament and $5 fee they won't getting back. Imo, that is.

 

[balladechina212]

Well the $10 for the tournament is an investment, so it'd be more worth it than $5 investment in a tournament and $5 fee they won't getting back. Imo, that is.

True, the $10 + $0 is a better investment than the $5 + $5 venue fee, but the $5 + $0 is an even better investment than the $10 + $0. Because if you don't think you're going to be in the money, the expected return of your investment portfolio will be the same in both the $5 and the $10 case (because the best you'll do in both cases is maybe win your money back) but your risk will be much higher in the $10 case, since you're likely to lose more. The modern portfolio theory assumes that investors are risk averse, meaning that given two assets that offer the same expected return, investors will prefer the less risky one. However, if you think you're going to place in the money in the tournament, obviously you would want the higher risk portfolio.

 

[DJ Nintendo]

True, the $10 + $0 is a better investment than the $5 + $5 venue fee, but the $5 + $0 is an even better investment than the $10 + $0. Because if you don't think you're going to be in the money, the expected return of your investment portfolio will be the same in both the $5 and the $10 case (because the best you'll do in both cases is maybe win your money back) but your risk will be much higher in the $10 case, since you're likely to lose more. The modern portfolio theory assumes that investors are risk averse, meaning that given two assets that offer the same expected return, investors will prefer the less risky one. However, if you think you're going to place in the money in the tournament, obviously you would want the higher risk portfolio.

So put it to $10 lol.

 

[Sensei]

I ain't paying ****. Too much risk. Rather buy BP shares.

 

[SwiftBass]

^^^
lol


hmm i wanna come to this, perhaps next time

 

[Keblerelf]

If it's going to be 10 can we do pools?

=)

 

[Melomaniacal]

I'll be coming with my brother. Palpi can't make it.

 

[balladechina212]

Yeah we should have more than 10 so we'll definitely do pools.

 

[Teczer0]

Can you do doubles?

And me and Oorah at least are going. Maybe 1 or 2 more of us will show.

 

[Deathknight]

We definitely should do doubles, we got enough attendance for sure.

 

[Smelly Cat]

True, the $10 + $0 is a better investment than the $5 + $5 venue fee, but the $5 + $0 is an even better investment than the $10 + $0. Because if you don't think you're going to be in the money, the expected return of your investment portfolio will be the same in both the $5 and the $10 case (because the best you'll do in both cases is maybe win your money back) but your risk will be much higher in the $10 case, since you're likely to lose more. The modern portfolio theory assumes that investors are risk averse, meaning that given two assets that offer the same expected return, investors will prefer the less risky one. However, if you think you're going to place in the money in the tournament, obviously you would want the higher risk portfolio.

lol. ****.

 

[loci]

True, the $10 + $0 is a better investment than the $5 + $5 venue fee, but the $5 + $0 is an even better investment than the $10 + $0. Because if you don't think you're going to be in the money, the expected return of your investment portfolio will be the same in both the $5 and the $10 case (because the best you'll do in both cases is maybe win your money back) but your risk will be much higher in the $10 case, since you're likely to lose more. The modern portfolio theory assumes that investors are risk averse, meaning that given two assets that offer the same expected return, investors will prefer the less risky one. However, if you think you're going to place in the money in the tournament, obviously you would want the higher risk portfolio.

wait wuts expected return
wat

 

[Winston]

True, the $10 + $0 is a better investment than the $5 + $5 venue fee, but the $5 + $0 is an even better investment than the $10 + $0. Because if you don't think you're going to be in the money, the expected return of your investment portfolio will be the same in both the $5 and the $10 case (because the best you'll do in both cases is maybe win your money back) but your risk will be much higher in the $10 case, since you're likely to lose more. The modern portfolio theory assumes that investors are risk averse, meaning that given two assets that offer the same expected return, investors will prefer the less risky one. However, if you think you're going to place in the money in the tournament, obviously you would want the higher risk portfolio.

Haha, I think this is too simplistic a way of looking at it. I don't think risk aversion has much to do with it, because hardly anyone fits in the category you described (expected return is breaking even from the tournament). Either the increase in entry fee will increase your monetary EV, if you are one of the strongest players, or it will decrease it, if you are everyone else.

For the everyone else, the benefit of increasing the fee is the increased chance that good players from farther away will attend. Of course, this is not equally valuable to everybody, but it's a factor to consider and it's why $10 + $0 can be a better investment than $5 + $0 even for those likely to lose their money.

 

[Sensei]

I will bring my ssb64 setup to this. Who wants to moneymatch???

Your Expected Return mumbo jumbo is pretty good.

 

[balladechina212]

Buying BP shares is also pretty good :D

Same thing tomorrow. Call me when you get there or if you get lost. I'll have to let you in since the door will (probably) be locked.

 

[Teczer0]

Ballade - plz do doubles for this tourney?

 

[Deathknight]

Sensei that's all you talk about when I see you post. Though I was the most amused when you said you'd do 1000 to 1 payout. I would laugh so hard if someone bet like $10 and pulled a Mango and beat you. But anyway, you should teach me some 64 stuff. I want to learn.

 

[Melomaniacal]

Wait, is it only $5 to enter singles?
I'm low on money, so that'd be sick, haha.

 

[Teczer0]

I just realized that the OP just said theres a Wawa nearby.

Epic tourney location is epic.

And... I hate being like really annoying but seriously, can there be doubles? lawl.

 

[Eggm]

10$ Dobules 10$ singles please. 20$ for a day of smash is cheap.

 

[Melomaniacal]

It is, but I'm also paying $44 to go to a concert later that day, and then there's food and gas.
I wouldn't mind a $5 more chill tournament.

 

[Teczer0]

I'm fine with either or. I'd like to leave to the majority though, I"ll vote 10 for both though.

As long as we have doubles I don't really care if its 5/5 or 10/10.

 

[Keblerelf]

We should have a tv showing USA. vs Ghana.

 

[Melomaniacal]

Also, the venue directions are confusing. Where exactly is this?

 

[CaptainNanD0]

I agree with Mr.F
@Melo, call Ballad it's a building with white columns and an american flag in the front

 

[Magus420]

Yeah, the directions kind of depend heavily on the map they refer to, which is a broken link (been like that for awhile actually). Where would I park/stop to get a somewhat large TV from my car into the venue?