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A lot of players don't know that. I told Jman about it when he was playing friendlies with axe at apex2012
sorry, I meant apex2010.Haha, thanks, that makes me feel better in some sense. I just kind of did it on accident just now, and it blew my mind. I don't think I'd ever heard anyone talk or post about it before - this game's awesome.
I guess you've found a flaw, in your game?So to answer my original question, the falco pros are all inputting the fast fall after the hitlag, and I don't have to really worry about learning the timing before?
Btw, this wasn't really my idea, take a look at the frame data for "ideal" and "late" pillaring, both have fastfall in there before the hitlag: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=271114
Curious if anyone actually does it this way (i can do it this way, not sure if i should be doing it this way)
I've noticed the way you WD around, and it's cool as ****, but I'd love to hear you explain it more (if you're interested in doing that). Like, not just why it's good (cuz that's a little bit easier to figure out), but your thoughts behind the way you use it in your movement.I don't think I usually FF before aerial'ing but I feel like I do sometimes. If it's impossible then it just feels like the timings are closer together sometimes *shrug*
Feels like something I should mess more with. I did it maybe a year ago and don't remember my results anymore.
I've been smashing with some OOS blood for a few days now, which is why no updates have been made or questions have been asked regarding the training techniques. When I wake up today that will be one of the top priorities. =)
WD'ing with Falco is seriously amazing. No one knows what is going on LOL.
Falco's DJ has amazing properties but you can die =(
I am not so familiar with Mewtwo, but I will offer what I know about the character in regards to what I have up already.Got linked to that practicing on your own guide and I'm curious as to what you'd recommend a Mewtwo player practice.
=Di have some metagame changing training advice
1. Dont play for a month before a tourney
2. Watch PP vids for an hour before the tourney
3. Play like PP
LMAO so glad people started picking up on this happening to me XD4. Lose in WFs and go through 2 sets of GFs at every major tournament so your fans have more videos to watch.
I've noticed the way you WD around, and it's cool as ****, but I'd love to hear you explain it more (if you're interested in doing that). Like, not just why it's good (cuz that's a little bit easier to figure out), but your thoughts behind the way you use it in your movement.
Well it's hard to explain, but the short story is that you need a way to move around/read/trick the opponent without lasering and dashing all of the time. The idea is to close distance/weave in an effective distance without giving Marth something he is used to reacting to. With the threat of a laser established, then Falco is free to move more. Wavedashing, which I think of as an extension/shifting of Falco's dash space, is a quick and relatively deceiving method of movement. Using WD'ing with appropriate lasers to trick people(such as making them think you will laser forward after doing so once in place then WD'ing inward to laser, for example) will also give the opponent more to watch for and thusly open your lasers up more.Yeah, I try to incorporate WDing, but sometimes I feel like I just do it aimlessly and it's not actually helping me. :/
You don't have to directly attack out of it. Do you see people jumping at you/jumping away when you WD in? If so, then sure aerial. But I don't think that's likely. Again, remember they are respecting the laser and waiting for that usually.To be more specific, I am fine at using WD back. It's WDing forward that I have no idea how to use. It feels so risky, particularly because I have no dash momentum to SHFFL with. If I aerial I end up having to fade away, which I guess isn't so bad, but I just want to be able to do more with my WD in.
1. Jab if you don't think he will grab on reaction or if his percent is too high to CC. Dash attack when he's running away or holding shield and won't jump away. Dash attacking and jabbing are both relatively unsafe. If he's in the air then both moves can be okay but it's still toughish to land.Questions for Falco mains...
1. When should I dash attack and jab vs Marth? It seems like it messes him up when he's close to you and slightly in the air
2. Are there any things that dominate Puffs as Falco? Ie. lasering when Puff is at eye level, etc
Marth MatchHey, I've got some vids that I'd like to have critiqued. I apologize about the way they were uploaded; Zbet was feeling super lazy I do have all of them cued up in link form with times for you guys, though, so that should help.
Please critique these matches; I feel that I played my best in these matches. I am always in second port as the red Falco with the CODA tag, Blake is always in third port, and Zbet in first.
[COLLAPSE="Good matches"]vs Zbet (Peach)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Yg7sJ00#t=10m18s 10:18 - 14:10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Yg7sJ00#t=14m18s 14:18 - 18:10
vs Blake (Falco)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Yg7sJ00#t=3m26s 3:26 - 6:03
vs Blake (Marth)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Yg7sJ00#t=20m48s 20:48 - 24:07
vs Blake (Sheik)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Yg7sJ00#t=1h3s 1:00:03 - 1:03:03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Yg7sJ00#t=1h5m17s 1:05:17 - 1:08:08[/COLLAPSE]
I feel pretty uncomfortable with the Marth matchup right now, so any critiques on the Marth match are especially appreciated.
If anyone ends up wanting to critique more/other matches, here is a list of links to a good number of them:
[COLLAPSE="Other matches"]vs Zbet (Peach)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Yg7sJ00#t=1h8m23s 1:08:23 - 1:12:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Yg7sJ00#t=1h12m57s 1:12:57 - 1:16:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Yg7sJ00#t=1h19m55s 1:19:55 - 1:23:13
vs Blake (Falco)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Yg7sJ00 0:00 - 3:15 The beginning got clipped a bit, sorry about that.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Yg7sJ00#t=1h23m27s 1:23:27 - 1:26:16
vs Blake (Falcon)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Yg7sJ00#t=56m24s 56:24 - 59:46
vs Blake (Fox)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKf7Yg7sJ00#t=1h3m12s 1:03:12 - 1:04:51[/COLLAPSE]