Warhawk
Smash Lord
Weak nair can work too sometimes depending on percent and DI.
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PPMD's Falco Discussion Thread
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go away let me know when you can do that for real (tried for 4 minutes and got ONE)
leffen
Smash Champion
neither fair, nair nor bair combos into fsmash if they just do standard DI (down and away).
using uair to extend combos should imho be used instead if your opponent will DI correctly
using uair to extend combos should imho be used instead if your opponent will DI correctly
AvengerAngel
Smash Journeyman
Uair is quite underrated.
Nair and Bair actually combo into Fsmash or other silly things like Utilts/Dtilts/grabs/whatever, but I never understood well enough how to use them to get the combo going 100% of the times. At mid-low %s it doesn't really matter if they're DI'ing away because a weak hit can grant you a follow-up if you space well.
I don't know about Fair because I still suck at using it D:
Nair and Bair actually combo into Fsmash or other silly things like Utilts/Dtilts/grabs/whatever, but I never understood well enough how to use them to get the combo going 100% of the times. At mid-low %s it doesn't really matter if they're DI'ing away because a weak hit can grant you a follow-up if you space well.
I don't know about Fair because I still suck at using it D:
leffen
Smash Champion
strong bad I tried powershielding with DK
I can get it to ~80% while facing away and like 99,999% when facing away and ducking
after literally trying for under 2 minutes
DK facing away is about as easy as peach LOL
pause+start and look where his shield is
and stop ****ing johning and develop some shiet
I can get it to ~80% while facing away and like 99,999% when facing away and ducking
after literally trying for under 2 minutes
DK facing away is about as easy as peach LOL
pause+start and look where his shield is
and stop ****ing johning and develop some shiet
Do you mean the first hit or both hits of Uair? I could see argument for either one.
If they DI away I like Fair into Dsmash because it usually puts them offstage at a bad angle. If I'm somehow in the middle of the stage at that percent, then Uair is definitely a good idea I agree.
unknown522
Some guy
Pretty sure he meant both hits.
I like to spike people after u-air if they don't DI properly (like off of platform tech chases)
I like to spike people after u-air if they don't DI properly (like off of platform tech chases)
The oj thing specifically isn't a big deal for most people. I think almost anyone can benefit from figuring out how their metabolism works and optimizing their diet around that. The thing to do is uhh record everything you eat and at what times, and also keep like hourly records of your mood and energy levels and what not. Then after a few weeks try to see if there's any obvious patterns.
The point really is that what you eat has a pretty big effect on your body and your brain and your ability to perform, so it's worth experimenting and trying to optimize.
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
Uair -> Dair works wonders when not DI'd properlyPretty sure he meant both hits.
I like to spike people after u-air if they don't DI properly (like off of platform tech chases)
wonders
Nice tricky mixup
Interesting...and how would intensity/regularity of exercise(namely, cardio) fit into this? Does it matter if I include that and my sleep schedule as well, or can I get a good idea food-wise from just looking at food and my mood hourly?
Should this just be taken to PMs I ask a lot of questions about this kind of stuff LOL
Charlie G
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Honestly if you go down that path you're going to waste much more time and energy worrying about what you're eating than any benefit you'll gain from it.
Just don't eat junk, and get regular exercise. Becoming healthy / fit is literally that simple- the hard part is keeping at it consistently and not finding excuses for yourself
Just don't eat junk, and get regular exercise. Becoming healthy / fit is literally that simple- the hard part is keeping at it consistently and not finding excuses for yourself
mers
Smash Ace
Y'all seen Westballz's vids from Oxy yet? He killed it, and you can see he's not even close to fulfilling his potential yet.
I have noticed sleep to be too crucial lately.
I just run 1-3 miles a day usually.
Where are these Westballz videos located?
I just run 1-3 miles a day usually.
Where are these Westballz videos located?
mers
Smash Ace
www.youtube.com/use/stabbedbyahippie
vs Lovage is good (even if Lovage played badly, which it looked like)
as is vs. s2j
Charlie G
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1 -3 miles is a good distance, if you really want to get in shape try increasing it progressively but otherwise that's definitely enough for general fitness
Don't forget to take a couple of days off a week to give your joints / tendons recovery time!
Don't forget to take a couple of days off a week to give your joints / tendons recovery time!
thanks!
Yeah I have begun to notice that rest trend. Not sure if I'll increase or not when the distance right there is enough to wear me out haha, but if I can lose weight and gain focus using this distance then I am perfectly content with it. I'll increase after I get a very long solid routine established I'm sure.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
westballz isnt even that good o.O people ride anyone these days
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you don't beat S2J without being good, sorry stingers
Veetaak
Smash Lord
wait what???
stingers
Smash Obsessed
he plays falco like mk in brawl. just the same ****ing safe patterns and confirms over and over. its not good, its stupid. westballz is the new lunin lol. he beat s2j because that MU is hard enough for falcon, s2j was outplaying him by a decent amount but it wasn't enough.
D
Deleted member
Guest
man s2j *****. even when he loses i think his matches are sick, and the ones he wins are just lol
Warhawk
Smash Lord
Why does playing smart make him worse or not good? Everyone abuses character advantages to varying degrees.
stingers
Smash Obsessed
he doesnt play smart.
neutral: standing laser -> approaching laser -> shine
every time
too bad falcon cant beat lasers at all =[
s2js approaching: shield or utilt
too bad falcon has nothing that beats utilt at all =[
he is more flowchart then the flowcharts.
neutral: standing laser -> approaching laser -> shine
every time
too bad falcon cant beat lasers at all =[
s2js approaching: shield or utilt
too bad falcon has nothing that beats utilt at all =[
he is more flowchart then the flowcharts.
Bones0
Smash Legend
So he's bad because his strategy is consistently unbeatable. If you think that makes him bad, then you are ******** on two accounts.
crush
Smash Master
i am not ******** and i think that makes him bad.
looks like i win this argument on two accounts.
Bones0
Smash Legend
So you admit that stingers is your less-fashionable alt account, crush?
Looks like this case is closed. Good work, Johnson.
Looks like this case is closed. Good work, Johnson.
Mahone
Smash Champion
i feel like i'm the only one that knows what stingers is saying, thank you stingers, i'm not alone 
although, to be fair, i don't agree that makes him bad...
like i said before, that makes him amazing vs FFF, but not as good vs floaties
although, to be fair, i don't agree that makes him bad...
like i said before, that makes him amazing vs FFF, but not as good vs floaties
unknown522
Some guy
I think Westballz is legit, but is being overhyped by s2j.
Kinda like plup with hbox
And well, other people
Kinda like plup with hbox
And well, other people
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I wish I was as good as Plup
Keeping track of exercise and sleep is also a good idea, but you can get quite a bit of useful info just looking at food.
You can send me a PM if you want to talk about this more. I really don't have too much to say aside from fairly general advice, but I could give you some reading material that goes deeper.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
The #1 determinant in health is diet. But diet is complicated and smashboards isn't the place to discuss it honestly, I doubt anyone here is knowledgable enough on the matter. See a physician imo.
Wanna elaborate then? I'm curious about what you think but I dont care to discuss with stingers. Obvious troll bait is obvious.i feel like i'm the only one that knows what stingers is saying, thank you stingers, i'm not alone
Bl@ckChris
Smash Hero
after watching the set, i can definitely see what stingers is saying.
you guys' character is way too damn good lmao.
you guys' character is way too damn good lmao.
Moooose
Smash Champion
seriously? he's not good, he's just using an unbeatable strategy? oh yea its so easy thats why every other falco beats s2j. not.
i dont think you guys know the matchup well enough to notice the little things that he does that are a big deal
i dont think you guys know the matchup well enough to notice the little things that he does that are a big deal
kalamazhu
Smash Journeyman
My falco beats ur falcon
Moooose
Smash Champion
loool gtfo
stingers
Smash Obsessed
everything I say is a troll
what little things are you talking about moose =[
what little things are you talking about moose =[
I may regret this, but isn't it odd that so far the only serious argument for Westballz is saying that he is performing well at tournaments instead of basing their idea of skill on his gameplay, which is what Stingers is addressing?
He is not trolling btw I can usually tell when Stingers is trolling.
He is not trolling btw I can usually tell when Stingers is trolling.
Sinji
Smash Master
i agree with moose from the previous page.
i was watching over genesis 2 s2j vs m2k and noticed the little things that s2j does to avoid m2ks gimps.
i was watching over genesis 2 s2j vs m2k and noticed the little things that s2j does to avoid m2ks gimps.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
How do we quantify his skill based on gameplay except what is exhibited at tournaments?
edit: I slightly misunderstood this post. Reframing of the question: If his gameplay/style is subpar (or whatever you want to call it) but it is successful in terms of beating good players, is it really subpar afterall?
on another note, do you think falco is just so good that it doesnt matter what he does (as stingers implies) and he is getting by on falco being hella good at this game?
hard questions lol.