Power Rankings Discussion UPDATED 3/03/08

[Scar]

A lot of players don't enjoy Brawl at all, it seems like MD/VA is really going in that direction, but I know most of NJ/PA's better players really aren't interested in Brawl, especially despite placing pretty high @ Chu's this weekend.

Some people don't care about the list, but I know that I really do, and I don't even think this has to be a final list either. The post-Brawl Melee community does have a strong base, and I don't see us going anywhere for a while. Melee still has way too much to offer for me to just play Brawl.

M2K has said that everyone sucks at Melee, himself included. There is still much to learn. I think he's right, and until Brawl can offer the same amount, I don't see myself playing it seriously.

Summary: It's true that a lot of people care much less about this list than they have previous ones, but there are still a lot of players who are very interested in the list being accurate.

 

[Jem.]

M2K also says brawl is a really bad game but he continues to play it on wifi >_>.

And I hate to say it but if youre still expecting big melee tournaments, especially with brawls release on the way, im sorry that you do >_>. cause otherwise you'll be flying out of state and losing profit (A lot of good players make money everytime they fly out, but now with the sliced community you could still not make profit)

Well that's just my say even though this isnt my regional section.

uhh

*travels back to pac-west*

 

[GOTM]

M2K also says brawl is a really bad game but he continues to play it on wifi >_>.

he only does for the money and fame.

and he said that exact quote....twice...i did not make that up

 

[CT Chia]

as much as i like brawl, scars right, the majority of nj/pa is def stickin with melee as of now. i originally dropped melee for brawl but now seeing that the melee community will still be quite alive here in nj/pa, im still playing it along with brawl. in spammers defense he went to 4 tourneys in his area,which isnt as many as most ppl here, i would think it would be enough. if u have to go to something like vls or pound to be elligble, then put me on the list! lol jk

 

[Cactuar]

To be on the list, you have to not suck in addition to going to things. The part about not sucking is obviously more important than attendance.

 

[g-regulate]

most people who dont like brawl are the people who know barely anything about it, and basically suck terribly at it. dont you remember getting good at melee? it was so much fun to learn new tricks and learn the physics to gain absolute control of your character.

brawl is the same, its a new game with new physics and new tricks to learn. it brings me back to the old days years ago when i tried to learn so much about melee. its a new competitive game and people will have to learn it inside and out to gain the edge in tournaments.

most people seem to just think they already know everything about brawl, and already call it a "bad game". i think the only real difference is that the game is slower, and requires less button presses/inputs. does this make it less competitive? maybe, it definitely doesnt seem to have the depth of melee and its somewhat infinite amount of strategies...... but brawl isnt even out yet, and people are quick to judge because they dont have the same control... because they arent good yet. thats how i feel

 

[MASAHIROx]

i love it.

i also like beating teams like chu and travis.

anyone can beat anyone. =D

 

[Scar]

I dunno, there is one really good reason for why I don't like Brawl and I don't want to discuss it too much on here because we discuss it everywhere else on SWF, but like... hitstun is too low and knockback is too high for consistent, reliable combos.

Consistent and reliable combos along with potential for DI-dependent amazing unbelievable combos are the reasons why I play and love SSBM, and they aren't in Brawl at all. And this is a matter of opinion and personal taste, I will continue to play the game and maybe it will grow on me, but at this point I am both bored with Brawl and have no intention of getting good at it.

 

[Alukard]

cactuarz ... ... i really don't care about the list lol ... G-reg said it all ... seriously ... nyc has like 0 tournaments ... and i have no car or ride to get to nj/pa consecutively so yea ... someone come to nyc and throw tournies lol ... -_-

 

[Tope]

I don't know how anyone can claim that they didn't know the lists were do, I had the deadline of March 1st up for quite sometime, February 10th to be exact.

Cort posted on the 11th by saying, "Sounds good. (in reference to the due date of march 1st)

Is this the topic to discuss things?

Are we doing top 10 or 15?"



Perhaps next time around we need to start over with an entirely new panel, because it seems the panelists can't get their act together.

Plank is better than Tope

This is incorrect because I do not lose to TA members like Aho/Meep/Fonz.

 

[(*Jman*)]

Sheik, Falcon, and Luigi are not my secondaries. Also, I was playing at my friendly level.


1. M2K - Obvious
2. PC - Obvious
3. Cactuar - Obvious
4. Eggm - Obvious


5. Hax - He's been on the scene proving himself for a while, just took a major regional for him to really be noticed.

6. Tec0 - He's somewhat inconsistent. Had decent showings at the major regionals and does well within tri-state.

7. Teh_Spamerer - Not very active, making it an issue to put him on a power ranking. If he were more active he would probably be around Eggm.

8. Jman - He's better than you Scar.

9. Scar - He has his own list of Scarcomplishments posted pretty much anywhere that he has access to. I don't need to elaborate.

10. Vanz - Vanz could easily be higher on the list, I'm just waiting for the general opinion about his placement. He has a couple of noteworthy wins including Bum and chillin (?).

i think the Tristate list should should look something like this

1. M2K
2. PC
3. Cactuar
4. Eggm
5. Hax
6. Tec0
7. Jman
8. Teh_Spamerer
9. Scar
10. Vanz
11. alukard
12. starz
13. idc
14. idc
15. idc

 

[-__-]

i think the Tristate list should should look something like this

You forgot
1)Basic Sausage
2)M2K
and so on....

 

[Alukard]

i think the Tristate list should should look something like this

1. M2K
2. PC
3. Cactuar
4. Eggm
5. Hax
6. Tec0
7. Jman
8. Teh_Spamerer
9. Scar
10. Vanz

great i'm still not on there lmfaoooo ... i can't catch a break LMFAOOO ... i just love hearing peoples opinions ... and then starting **** lmaoooo ... competition for the win =]

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

Sheik drama is the best kind

 

[Tope]

I don't mind discussion, no matter how silly it is.


BUT PLEASE no flaming and no spam.

 

[Omni]

Hey, I applied to be a panelist, but nooo...

*Pretends to be concerned.*

Seriously, we all know the real deal. Even if NEO shouldn't be on the list, most of you guys know he'll take your cookies. When we get together and smash at these tournaments, most of us can be honest and say a certain person is better than the other based. The rankings don't have any kind of pull besides fake prestige; just like how YouTube is voting an Ike named Kirk to be the best Ike (over Azen and Ken).

It shouldn't be too hard to tally up rankings and provide additional rules on the basis of attendance or the lack thereof. It just needs to be more specific. What tournaments are we including? How many tournaments does that come to? What should be the percentage of attendance to be allowed on the list? How does consistency and constant participation measure with poor attendance but possible higher placings? Finally, do the MATH.

There shouldn't be much debating.

 

[Banks]

One thing about this drama is that hardly anyone besides people on the list care about the list. Therefore everyone should get a custom title showing what rank they are to force this knowledge on the public. I need to upgrade nao

 

[Zombie Lucille Ball]

It shouldn't be too hard to tally up rankings and provide additional rules on the basis of attendance or the lack thereof. It just needs to be more specific. What tournaments are we including? How many tournaments does that come to? What should be the percentage of attendance to be allowed on the list? How does consistency and constant participation measure with poor attendance but possible higher placings? Finally, do the MATH.

This. If these rules were clearly spelled out then there would be significantly less drama to deal with, since there would be a standard.

 

[Tope]

Hey, I applied to be a panelist, but nooo...

*Pretends to be concerned.*

Seriously, we all know the real deal. Even if NEO shouldn't be on the list, most of you guys know he'll take your cookies. When we get together and smash at these tournaments, most of us can be honest and say a certain person is better than the other based. The rankings don't have any kind of pull besides fake prestige; just like how YouTube is voting an Ike named Kirk to be the best Ike (over Azen and Ken).

It shouldn't be too hard to tally up rankings and provide additional rules on the basis of attendance or the lack thereof. It just needs to be more specific. What tournaments are we including? How many tournaments does that come to? What should be the percentage of attendance to be allowed on the list? How does consistency and constant participation measure with poor attendance but possible higher placings? Finally, do the MATH.

There shouldn't be much debating.

I apologize for not including you. We had originally sent a confirmation letter to Vist, who like never posted, and I ended up having to take his spot.


Believe me I would have rather not been a panelist.

 

[(*Jman*)]

If you sucked at Melee chances are you're not going to be very good at Brawl for a while.

can i be cool like cort

 

[KORNNNNN~]

I'm not trying to complain or anything, but I think that I should be on the list along with Boss.

We enter tournaments and our placings are quite similar.

The most important fact that I wanted to share is that we have both improved very quickly from where we were a year ago.



Tope Edit: Grammar fixed. I got tired of looking at your terrible English.

 

[Cyrain]

Okay, I'ma just go ahead and throw this out there....Just my opinions.
Korn, I love you, so don't be offended, but I'm pretty sure Blues is better than you. =/ And you probably have advanced quickly, but I've only been going to tourneys fo a bit over a year and I'm pretty sure I'm as good as you if not better than you (Not trying to be egotistical)
Also, Scar I love you, but I think you were trying to overrate yourself a bit. I think I 2-0'd you both times I played you in tourney(I have an awful memory though, it Might have been 2-1 at C3), not that those facts necessarily state much, but jus' sayin'...

I wish I were on the list too, but I'm pretty new and I know Blues is better, so I am not disappointed.

Aw ****, I almost forgot.
Tope is the best Sheik in MD/VA.
Yeeee.

 

[phish-it]

I think it's safe to assume Bum was taken off because of the lack of traveling. Now I could be wrong, but I don't think Ryoko does much either. Which is why there should be guidelines to follow for any power rankings list. Eg. Player must attend x number of tournaments between the voting time and whatnot.

 

[MASAHIROx]

bum is clearly amazing

boss will be there soon

 

[pockyD]

people who say they don't care then continue arguing/whining about their position/omission are really just about the worst

also where's dark.pch? i heard he's one of the best peaches in the world................. plus he uses orange font which is awesome

 

[Teczer0]

people who say they don't care then continue arguing/whining about their position/omission are really just about the worst

also where's dark.pch? i heard he's one of the best peaches in the world................. plus he uses orange font which is awesome

..........

Btw its not only orange font his text choice is AWFUL and he writes HUGE blocks of text and when you look at it all it looks like is orange blocks.

Ugh this is one of the reasons im happy the ignore list exists

 

[OffTheChain]

Inactive people who would still beat a lot of people on the list (Neo, KDJ, teh spammer, ect) should def still be there, their just like rare showings, yeah.

Tope Edit: Grammar fixed. I got tired of looking at your terrible English.

Lmao, wow.

 

[Alukard]

i love this drama lol... but to bad melee is getting owned by brawl as for tournaments ... no one in nyc wants to play melee anymore -_- ... well not enough people to have a tournament =\ ... so all this intense stuff would create some great sets in the upcoming tournaments

 

[Scar]

Also, Scar I love you, but I think you were trying to overrate yourself a bit. I think I 2-0'd you both times I played you in tourney(I have an awful memory though, it Might have been 2-1 at C3), not that those facts necessarily state much, but jus' sayin'...

Justifying someone's placement by your own individual tournament/friendly experiences with them happens a lot in various NJ rankings boards. It is known as Inui Logic. It's why we do things via panel.

 

[KORNNNNN~]

Okay, I'ma just go ahead and throw this out there....Just my opinions.
Korn, I love you, so don't be offended, but I'm pretty sure Blues is better than you. =/ And you probably have advanced quickly, but I've only been going to tourneys fo a bit over a year and I'm pretty sure I'm as good as you if not better than you (Not trying to be egotistical)
Also, Scar I love you, but I think you were trying to overrate yourself a bit. I think I 2-0'd you both times I played you in tourney(I have an awful memory though, it Might have been 2-1 at C3), not that those facts necessarily state much, but jus' sayin'...

I wish I were on the list too, but I'm pretty new and I know Blues is better, so I am not disappointed.

Aw ****, I almost forgot.
Tope is the best Sheik in MD/VA.
Yeeee.

Thanks Cyrain <3 but you clearly better than me!
haha I know that Blues is A LOT better than me ( I said that before in this thread )
but me and Boss are even

Tope Edit: Grammar fixed. I got tired of looking at your terrible English.

and ***** Tope.. -___-
I only live in this country for 3 years... so give me a break dude

 

[Cyrain]

Justifying someone's placement by your own individual tournament/friendly experiences with them happens a lot in various NJ rankings boards. It is known as Inui Logic. It's why we do things via panel.

I understand. That's why I said it doesn't necessarily mean anything, just a statement.

 

[th0rn]

the NE one should just be edited because it's old and was just an inaccurate rough draft.

 

[starcock]

Half of you are drinking some magical juice, that makes you think stupid. This isn't that hard, it isn't an aroused p*nis after all. Think with your brains and not with your male appendages.

and tec0, stop seducing the ignore list.

 

[Alukard]

CYRAIN!!!! we gotta play again dude ... our set at pound was fun stuff ... we are sooo bad at this game tho cuz we aren't on that dreadful list ._. lololol ... i want an FC ...

o and i've beaten a bunch of people but i choke against cactuar so i lose on being on the list ... *cries*

 

[Plairnkk]

Tope it doesnt matter who I lose to as long as I win when it matters. I can play ****ty and lose to whoever but the fact of the matter is I'm a clutch player and when it matters I do better and place better. Get *****.

Luckily the power rankings dont mean that much for md/va anyway since all 3 panelists are va/extremely cocky and biased LMFAO good ****

 

[Cyrain]

OMFG ALUKARD I LOVE YOU! We do definitely need to play again dude. I'm trying to come up to NY later this year. And yea I know we suck for not getting on the list. I didn't attend the 1 last tourney where I had a chance to get 15th in MD/VA lol

Also, Plank, I love you, but god **** you are too cocky lol.
There is no need for rivalry. -_-

 

[starcock]

Tope it doesnt matter who I lose to as long as I win when it matters. I can play ****ty and lose to whoever but the fact of the matter is I'm a clutch player and when it matters I do better and place better. Get *****.

Luckily the power rankings dont mean that much for md/va anyway since all 3 panelists are va/extremely cocky and biased LMFAO good ****

You had me at cocky. I decided that I don't want to be on the rankings because people would lose their ability to smash, due to their embarrassment and all. Also, that I got hit by a mobile vechile on my way to a tourney, that HBK invited me too. My right hand was destroyed, I couldn't smash or masturbate at all, well, I used the left one to trenderize my chicken but at the finish line, it just went in all different directions, messy messy, but really, I am recovered from that tragic event and will soon practice again with KDJ.

 

[Plairnkk]

im not really cocky, im just truthful. i know when im better than someone and when someone is better than me.

tope isn't better than me.

 

[KORNNNNN~]

I didn't attend the 1 last tourney where I had a chance to get 15th in MD/VA lol

...lol Cyrain, same here!!
oh well..

 

[Alukard]

OMFG ALUKARD I LOVE YOU! We do definitely need to play again dude. I'm trying to come up to NY later this year. And yea I know we suck for not getting on the list. I didn't attend the 1 last tourney where I had a chance to get 15th in MD/VA lol

Also, Plank, I love you, but god **** you are too cocky lol.
There is no need for rivalry. -_-

=] ... werd i just wish i didn't get that ******** third bracket at pound ... god dam it was like ... azen forward chu... and the rest of u F*ckers fight for a chacne to get out lmaoooo ... like seriously ... i just gave up ... i lost hope in getting to F*ucking brackets lmao ...