Parachute Parade! - GnW Social Discussion

[Grey Belnades]

^poor Blue team. That's the first time I've seen 4 G&Ws in doubles.

I don't have skype/facebook etc because it draws me in when I should be doing other things :/

Lag was the wild card. It was SO slow...

I feel the same but I actually have those 2.

 

[Makke]

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[Dooms]

Lol lag filled gw doubles. I'd love to do more if it wouldn't make my GW twice as bad. >_>

 

[Makke]

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[Vex Kasrani]

My opinion of the MK matchup, not that anybody may care...

50:50 when the match first starts, 55:45 GnW favor when GnW has a 30%+ lead, 70:30 MK's favor when he has a 30%+ lead.

 

[Triforce Of Chozo]

The match is never in G&W's favor.

Lag G&W dittos failed so hard for a lot of the time lol, mainly because of the SDs.
They were still (kind of) fun though.

 

[overgamer]

The 2 first battles from "The GaW Skype Community" More replays upcomming cuz one guy had replay hacks : )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvUELVcOzJw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqQnqvQ1UkI

Haha this is pretty hilarous!

 

[Alphicans]

My opinion of the MK matchup, not that anybody may care...

50:50 when the match first starts, 55:45 GnW favor when GnW has a 30%+ lead, 70:30 MK's favor when he has a 30%+ lead.

Getting a lead is hard, so I would say 60:40 when the match first starts, and only 50:50 when GaW has a lead.

 

[Vex Kasrani]

Getting a lead is hard, so I would say 60:40 when the match first starts, and only 50:50 when GaW has a lead.

You don't have to get the lead in the beginning as much as to just not lose the lead. Both characters have trouble getting the first hit.

 

[Alphicans]

Mk has an easier time and has more options to bait a move, and he can string attacks very well and easily to get a solid lead.

 

[Today]

Day my G&W is doing good!

Beat Bio and Wiscus a few times today!

Wiscus did get a match or 2 on me with puff though

That's great! I'm glad! We still need to do Wifi so we can go over things!

And heyo, guys! I was out this weekend, but back now!

As for MK/GnW matchup I can definitely say it's 40:60 MK's favor. But it's my favorite matchup and my most knowledgeable so I can definitely help!

I also secondary Metaknight so if anyone want to wifi I can help you that way, too!

 

[Triforce Of Chozo]

^That would be nice, I always lose to MKs.

 

[Rizen]

MK da bess.

I miss people on Xat . If someone wants to wifi, leave a visitor message if you don't see me.

My G&W's improving but still lacks in juggling. I need so recognize setups faster. Bucket breaking is alien to me. I keep using Bair or Dair to momentum cancel.
On the positive side I'm beginning to space opponents like Marth and Snake and take 2 stocks of them.
Although Link will always be my best character.

 

[overgamer]

MK da bess.

I miss people on Xat . If someone wants to wifi, leave a visitor message if you don't see me.

My G&W's improving but still lacks in juggling. I need so recognize setups faster. Bucket breaking is alien to me. I keep using Bair or Dair to momentum cancel.
On the positive side I'm beginning to space opponents like Marth and Snake and take 2 stocks of them.
Although Link will always be my best character.

C'mon get skype already, you'll be able to talk directly with all of us.
Buket will come with time and practice. Make sure you practice few times, it helps to learn it as a reflex.

 

[theeboredone]

Wow, Pentasalia is such an overrated G&W main.

 

[Alphicans]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lo1KCE7SJE

yesssssssssss

 

[Triforce Of Chozo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Lo1KCE7SJE

yesssssssssss

I like where you got saved by the phantom bomb block.
Nice DI on your last stock.

 

[Alphicans]

I warned him when he said "going green greens" did he listen? NO!

 

[Today]

I agree, join us on Skype.

Either way, considering trying the matchup thread again? I just hope everyone participates! But it'd be an easier way of helping and getting everyones opinions.

 

[Rizen]

C'mon get skype already, you'll be able to talk directly with all of us.
Buket will come with time and practice. Make sure you practice few times, it helps to learn it as a reflex.

I tend to wander to online chats/forums when I need to be doing something else and should be careful not to spend too much time online. More so, lol.
G&W boards are a great group of people.

I 2 stocked a Jiggly and see what people mean about the MU because I'm not a good G&W. Did a few bucket breaks too.

I warned him when he said "going green greens" did he listen? NO!

Good stuff. It makes me want to play offline again. In CO I have to drive 1.5 to 2.5 hours to get to many smashfests which is why I'm a wifi player. That and insomnia.

 

[Vex Kasrani]

Mk has an easier time and has more options to bait a move, and he can string attacks very well and easily to get a solid lead.

This also applies to GnW.... lol

MK might have a SLIGHT advantage when the match starts, like 55:45, but it's not bad at all in the beginning, it only becomes really stupid if MK gets the lead and sits on it.

 

[UTDZac]

I warned him when he said "going green greens" did he listen? NO!

Those who doubt the power of Green Greens will be punished. GJ

 

[GimR]

Today is the last day to sign up for pound!

http://pound5.weebly.com/

 

[SFA Smiley]

I need to join the skype so i can talk with you guys =)

 

[GimR]

Alphicians, you roll too much!!!!

 

[Alphicans]

I feel like you're saying that just because you saw lots of rolling.... If you saw I only rolled when avoiding grenades and when snake wasn't near me. I rolled like twice when snake was near me and it paid off one time (got a grab) the other time I got hit by dash attack, so no big deal.

 

[Exdeath]

I feel like you're saying that just because you saw lots of rolling.... If you saw I only rolled when avoiding grenades and when snake wasn't near me. I rolled like twice when snake was near me and it paid off one time (got a grab) the other time I got hit by dash attack, so no big deal.

Just because he doesn't punish it properly doesn't mean that it isn't a bad habit.

 

[Alphicans]

Are you guys serious? He's at the other side of the stage >_____>.

 

[Exdeath]

I feel like you're saying that just because you saw lots of rolling.... If you saw I only rolled when avoiding grenades and when snake wasn't near me. I rolled like twice when snake was near me and it paid off one time (got a grab) the other time I got hit by dash attack, so no big deal.

You rolled away and were hit by Ftilt. You rolled when you weren't near Snake and you were hit by a grenade explosion. You rolled away when you were slightly above Snake and were just generally inefficient. Many other times you would be hit by a grenade and then roll. You rolled into a jab. None of this is including what you mentioned, neither does is it including his missed guaranteed punishes. The only time that I saw you roll with success was when you dodged a dash grab, and even then it did not place you in a good position.

 

[Alphicans]

k whatever you say. Watch other matches, I don't roll at all. It's game 5 on green greens. Most of my rolling revolved around rolling when he wasn't near and to avoid grenades which I find is usually the best option. Rolling above him on platforms to avoid a second utilt is a good idea because if you spot dodge he can time it to hit you again, if you upB he can still hit you if he times it, and if you jump he can chase and uair. Rolling he'd have to predict it which is not as easy as any of the other options.

 

[Triforce Of Chozo]

You can't spell trolling without rolling.

 

[A2ZOMG]

G&W vs Metaknight is fun when you're hitting him or grabbing him. F-tilt is a huge ***** though. Generally I just wait in shield and try to D-tilt him out of it when I get F-tilted.

I just realized that I don't D-throw -> techchase F-air nearly enough. **** is so amazing when you need kills, especially since MK users will typically avoid teching in place or not teching when they don't want to get killed. Gotta implement this in more matchups too, since I'm pretty certain that properly timed, it hits everyone.

 

[Exdeath]

k whatever you say. Watch other matches, I don't roll at all. It's game 5 on green greens. Most of my rolling revolved around rolling when he wasn't near and to avoid grenades which I find is usually the best option. Rolling above him on platforms to avoid a second utilt is a good idea because if you spot dodge he can time it to hit you again, if you upB he can still hit you if he times it, and if you jump he can chase and uair. Rolling he'd have to predict it which is not as easy as any of the other options.

Power shielding grenades is better than rolling. Rolling away from Utilt is just about as unsafe on start-up as Up-B and much more unsafe once the invincibility wears off. If he was going to chase your jump you still would have been Uaired because you'd still be in lag and giving him time to hit you on reaction. G&W's roll is slow enough that you don't need to predict it unless you're trying to Fsmash it or walk up>do something like Utilt (due to safety).

 

[GimR]

Just avoiding the grenades with your movement is a better option. Also he missed a lot of opportunities to punish your roll.

BTW, I lost to a MK this weekend because he got the lead and wouldn't approach(Plus I killed myself at 40) T.T

 

[Alphicans]

Power shielding grenades is better than rolling. Rolling away from Utilt is just about as unsafe on start-up as Up-B and much more unsafe once the invincibility wears off. If he was going to chase your jump you still would have been Uaired because you'd still be in lag and giving him time to hit you on reaction. G&W's roll is slow enough that you don't need to predict it unless you're trying to Fsmash it or walk up>do something like Utilt (due to safety).

You claimed something and then gave no reason. On a platform, he cannot punish a roll if you immediately roll after he hits your shield. I have never been uaired by any snake after rolling in reaction to getting utilted on my shield.

Just avoiding the grenades with your movement is a better option. Also he missed a lot of opportunities to punish your roll.

BTW, I lost to a MK this weekend because he got the lead and wouldn't approach(Plus I killed myself at 40) T.T

Yes avoiding grenades by movement is the best option but not when they are very close to exploding, and are above you. The best option is to either time a power shield, dodge or roll. Rolling is the safest option and has the greatest chance of success, and in the positions I was in, snake couldn't punish no matter what, and even if he could, grenade explosions usually cover tracks.

 

[Rizen]

I don't know if this helps but I'll 'throw it out'. 'Nades are easy to stop with projectiles and hurt Snake too. Would jump/SH (dodge the first)>chef be good vs grenades from a medium-long distance? It could stop 'nades next to Snake like Link's arrows/boomerang camping.

 

[Alphicans]

Lol chef stops nades, but the range of chef kind of sucks, and jumping around them is really easy. GaW should not really get hit by them ever tbh, I just ****ed up a couple times.

 

[Splice]

yeah dont bother trying to hit nades Arisen, either catch to fast throw back or just dodge all of then like a GaW main

Also Alphicans you'd probably do well to take most of the advice Xdeath and GIMR have given you instead of stubbornly sticking to claiming rolling is better any good at all...

 

[Rizen]

I bet ducking helps avoid them too. How should G&W approach Snake with his broken reach? Marth can't force an approach but Snake can and his tilts cut my G&W down. Same thing applies with Ike's jabs to a lesser extent.


G&W's roll's no good?

 

[Alphicans]

yeah dont bother trying to hit nades Arisen, either catch to fast throw back or just dodge all of then like a GaW main

Also Alphicans you'd probably do well to take most of the advice Xdeath and GIMR have given you instead of stubbornly sticking to claiming rolling is better any good at all...

Idk, I just feel like I have a really good grasp on how to vs snake, probably better than both of them. I definitely do not need help with that m/u. I posted a match on green greens with a funny ending....