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Crimson King

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I'm not really sure about what to make of this, but really, suicide is not the answer.

It's a long term fix for a short term problem.

There are several places where you can get help if you need it. The community here will also do what it can to help.
 

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I am glad you are extremely tolerant to pain. If you weren't, you would have killed yourself a while ago which is surely not the answer. What makes you want to kill yourself? I'm sure the community could help you out.
 

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****ing school. Look, I have nothing against an education that will help you with IRL shiz, but seriously, how the **** will knowing a bunch of science of geographic **** help you when it comes to real life situations?

It won't.

Education is just a a big load of BS.
 

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It's not the direct information that will help you, but the skills that you use them.

Take math. I have no use for it, being an English major, BUT the problem solving application has been useful when working on papers and such. This application process is what they teach you. I can recall the capital of countries that I knew from elementary school that help me to build my memory, recollection, and general knowledge.
 

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Math, maybe accounting is useful. Basic math: Addition, Subtraction, Multiplication and Division are useful. But when it comes to **** like Calculus and Algebra, how the hell will that help IRL? 7th grade imo should be the end of mandatory education. Cause **** you learn in high school won't help you on the streets, or typical IRL situations. The dropout age being raised to 18 in most states doesn't help either, by the time you can drop out, you're already in 12th grade <.<
 

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It depends on your life goals. If you want to be a blue collar worker, who works mostly with construction, or a select few other jobs, then drop out after High School. But, if you want a job where you are working in an office, pulling in a decent salary, you need a college education - not degree - education. The things I have learned in college have taught me, more than anything, that I knew nothing before college, and that I now know how to think properly.
 

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commiting suicide is the biggest john you could make.

i had five labs a week last quarter and midway through i did not want to get up in the morning anymore. You feel alot better after you've accomplished something hard
 

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Totally agree. Last semester, I got a 4.0. Normally, I am happy with just As and Bs, but last semester, I worked REALLY hard at the end and pushed myself to get As in harder classes, and I felt amazing.

Kawaii, what about friends or hobbies? You have anything else to drive you through the day?
 

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Math, maybe accounting is useful. Basic math: Addition, Subtraction, Multiplication and Division are useful. But when it comes to **** like Calculus and Algebra, how the hell will that help IRL? 7th grade imo should be the end of mandatory education. Cause **** you learn in high school won't help you on the streets, or typical IRL situations. The dropout age being raised to 18 in most states doesn't help either, by the time you can drop out, you're already in 12th grade <.<
All this tough stuff helps develop your brain fully, giving you a more wholesome and broadened appreciation of life. Trust me, just get these tough years out the way, and once you've gone to college, doing the subject you love, you'll never have to worry again, and you'll be happy. Life isn't always an easy ride, so just swallow life's difficulties and soldier on.
 

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pain is pain
suicide is a long answer for short problems in hour life
I would suggest a hobbies
besides I can think of alot of better reasons then what this user is saying
anyone else find it ironic this guys avatar is so adorable
besides the education system in this country really is ****ed up
then again I go to the first project based school in all of the united states
Im sure you will find a subject you will find interest in
besides it his choice IM sure people he only knows online wont have that big affect on his choice, Im sure he has friends in real life that can help him
 

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Suicide's not the answer. If school is what is bothering you. Don't worry, you won't be in school forever. I agree that stuff like algebra and calculus are next to useless, but like crimson king said, it teaches you life applications. The best thing to do is just to try your best in school. Like everyone else has said, the community will try its best to help you. You can also seek a religious leader for advice if you have one. Reading the Bible might help, it helped me sometimes when I was down. I"m not trying to force religion on you, I'm just saying it might help.I think a good thing to do would be to make a goal for your life, that'll give you a purpose to go through the day. A purpose such as finding a good job or finding a spouse, something like that. If you do want to make a goal for your life, you should think about it for a while, its not something to take lightly. Having a hobby can also help, like playing video games, music, and other stuff.
 

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Totally agree. Last semester, I got a 4.0. Normally, I am happy with just As and Bs, but last semester, I worked REALLY hard at the end and pushed myself to get As in harder classes, and I felt amazing.

Kawaii, what about friends or hobbies? You have anything else to drive you through the day?
lol i ended up doing really bad despite my efforts, but i still felt better that it was over
 

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Yeah, I feel that way too.

There are two solutions to every problem: deal with it or kill yourself.

Both choices suck, but that's why it's called a dilemma.

In your case, since you're willing to risk everything anyway; I would stop trying in school (obv. math isn't your thing :),) and find something you can do to sustain yourself. My dentist was a high-school dropout who got her G.E.D., and I'm sure something like being an auto-mechainc doesn't requre formal education. There are several high-powered opportunities for someone who doesn't do well in high-school. Find one you like, and you'll be happy.

Edit: Truck driver, chef.... I'm just trying to help you out.

Or you could learn a bunch of languages. I assume translators are in really high demand compared to their supply.

Also, CK. For math in general, studying doesn't help. You either know it or you don't. At some point, your brain cannot follow an algorithm of too high a complexity. My brick wall was in calculus III. Try as I might (and I tried), I could not manipulate 3-D objects in my mind. When we had to find the volume of said objects, I could never figure out exactly how the depth depended on the height and width. (My teacher provided no information on a possible algebraic method)
 

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Well, I like listening to other people vent. It reminds me I'm not the only one with problems. I assume OP likes venting, since he/she posted here. This thread is making both of us feel a little better.
 

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Why hasn't this been closed yet?

In regards to "the streets" - if you get an education, you will (hopefully) never actually have to be on "the streets".
 

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Because I'd rather have a topic where he can vent than actually feel alone with no one to talk to.
 

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<-- Someone who has suffered/is suffering from depression

Honestly, anti-depressants work wonders. Just go to a doctor, ask for them. it's not giving up, it's a chemical deficiency in your brain.
 

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Totally agree. Last semester, I got a 4.0. Normally, I am happy with just As and Bs, but last semester, I worked REALLY hard at the end and pushed myself to get As in harder classes, and I felt amazing.

Kawaii, what about friends or hobbies? You have anything else to drive you through the day?
I don't know if people consider me their friend, but there are some people in the smash community I get along well with. My one and only hobby, hell, what I base my life around, is smash. However I phail at getting ridez to tourneyz...zo yeah...
 

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I don't know if people consider me their friend, but there are some people in the smash community I get along well with. My one and only hobby, hell, what I base my life around, is smash. However I phail at getting ridez to tourneyz...zo yeah...
See, you may want to add on some hobbies. I am sure you are good at other things. You ever tried programming? Drawing? Anything like that?

Find communities around other topics that interest you. I guarantee people will become friends online. I have met people that definitely changed my life with only a few conversations online.
 

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I don't know if people consider me their friend, but there are some people in the smash community I get along well with. My one and only hobby, hell, what I base my life around, is smash. However I phail at getting ridez to tourneyz...zo yeah...
I'm starting to pick up Drawing and 3D modeling, and then try to combine to two. You should try drawing, or writing to vent out your anger.Also try to do other things with people that you know in the smash community.
 

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That would be cool. I've always wanted to draw and create flash animation. Well not always lol
But I suck at drawing D=
 

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Suicide is ********. You never know how much better life can get in less than a year. Why take your chances thinking it'll never happen?
 

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I have met people that definitely changed my life with only a few conversations online.
You have no idea how badly I wanna know more about that. ._.

Anyways, I guess I suggest getting more hobbies too. Basing your whole life around Smash can only be a bad thing. Especially Brawl. Drawing is a good one, obviously. Have you tried movies and music and such? Recently I've become much more into the inner workings of films. Really keeps me occupied.

As long as you don't commit suicide, though, yeah? For a long time I was clinically depressed too. I often get bouts of it; I'm sure it'll come back soon... but it always passes, eventually. And when it does you know you got through it. And you you know that, you feel stronger.

Focus on the hobbies, man. Hell, even if the main issue in your life is other people (and I assume it's at least one of them -- y'know, school and all). If most of the world seems to be made up of giant ****s, I suggest again -- focus on the hobbies. Those people aren't worth thowing a clouded thought to.

And nor is suicide. MOST chicks don't dig dead guys. Hobbies, I say!

It's amazing how awkward I am with this stuff, yet I always speak up anyway. ._.
 

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Well, I'm gonna try getting into drawing and animation, but I need photoshop and flash. I also hack Pokemon ROMs I suppose.
That's pretty cool. I'm an animation major, so if you have any questions, I'll be happy to try and answer them
 

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Suicide is ********. You never know how much better life can get in less than a year. Why take your chances thinking it'll never happen?
Living is ********. You never know how much worse life can get in less than a year. Why take your chances thinking it'll never happen?

That was pretty harsh, but I've heard that argument when I was depressed, and it pissed me off.

Meh, personally, I would wait until you can look back and say, "I wish I never had to be around more than half my life." Then I think you are justified in ending your misery. As it stands though, you're still fairly young, so there is a good chance your circumstances will change before too long. Also, nobody hates their life before they reach double digits, so, hang around 'till your no longer a teen, because so far, life has probably given you more ups than downs if you count your early years.
 

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Teenagers would be double digits.

Suicide is not an answer to a solution; it's an escape. All you are doing is saying, "I cannot handle stuff so much that I am giving up." But it's irreversible. With life, stuff changes CONSTANTLY. With the prospect of suicide, you have no way of ever going back from that choice.
 

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Living is ********. You never know how much worse life can get in less than a year. Why take your chances thinking it'll never happen?

That was pretty harsh, but I've heard that argument when I was depressed, and it pissed me off.

Meh, personally, I would wait until you can look back and say, "I wish I never had to be around more than half my life." Then I think you are justified in ending your misery. As it stands though, you're still fairly young, so there is a good chance your circumstances will change before too long. Also, nobody hates their life before they reach double digits, so, hang around 'till your no longer a teen, because so far, life has probably given you more ups than downs if you count your early years.
I'm sorry, but that is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. If you wish you never had to be around for more than half your life, that doesn't mean you should end it because, guess what, you've still got a ways to go for things to be good. If everyone thought like that, the suicide rate would be at least 50%. Unless you're like 90 so you know you're going soon, and have hated everything from 45 on, saying suicide is right if you don't like half your life is flat out ridiculous.

To the OP, Xsyven is entirely right. I can't begin to explain how much my life changed for the better in less than a year after I found something I was good at(my job, to be exact). The saying the night is darkest right before the dawn is cliche, but its also true. Just as things can snowball to getting worse, when they start to get better it tends to keep building and building. Since I got my job 2.5 years ago, things have just been getting better. Sure, there are still times when my old depression comes back, but now I've got all the good things that have happened to look back on, and knowing how quickly things changed pulls me through it within a couple of days, and I'm right back on track. Just keep going and know that when you find something you like and are good at, things will start looking up extremely quickly.
 

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Honestly why announce it on smashboards?

Hope you slove what's wrong
It's called a cry for help. Most suicide attempts are only thwarted because people tell others about it first, ie. a cry for help. They really don't want to kill themselves, but they have these feelings and they don't understand why.

That's really why I left this open. I know Kawaii didn't really want to kill himself, but I also know he is probably really down and depressed, which I hope he is starting to realize on his own. Being depressed is a medical condition, and it is a horrible thing to experience because you feel down all the time. You are not alone, Kawaii. Total strangers are here, taking their time, to show you life is worth living.

In short, as I said before, I'd rather him vent here than feel alone.
 

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Living is ********. You never know how much worse life can get in less than a year. Why take your chances thinking it'll never happen?

That was pretty harsh, but I've heard that argument when I was depressed, and it pissed me off.

Meh, personally, I would wait until you can look back and say, "I wish I never had to be around more than half my life." Then I think you are justified in ending your misery. As it stands though, you're still fairly young, so there is a good chance your circumstances will change before too long. Also, nobody hates their life before they reach double digits, so, hang around 'till your no longer a teen, because so far, life has probably given you more ups than downs if you count your early years.
This is the second person you've encouraged someone to kill themselves. You really need to stop posting.

I was merely implying that life gets better. No matter what. I don't care what you think, but it does.
 

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This is the second person you've encouraged someone to kill themselves. You really need to stop posting.

I was merely implying that life gets better. No matter what. I don't care what you think, but it does.
Honestly, when I made my thread in the broom, I hated when people told me "suicide is ********". Course numbers is being dumb with his "living is ********", but saying that what they're considering is stupid doesn't really work that much
 

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Really it is. I wanna commit suicide and I swear if not for me being a ***** about pain I would've a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time ago.
Pain is a great thing. Not only does it save us from hazards such as a hand on a stove. But it also can cause fear, this is crucial for our 'Fight or Flight' instinct.

Suicide isn't for the weak, or 'not the answer'. Because either way you will be dead. After that it doesn't really matter, Because your dead. But, why not try and getting help? Tell us your problems, and we will try the best we can to make you feel better.

Living is ********. You never know how much worse life can get in less than a year. Why take your chances thinking it'll never happen?

That was pretty harsh, but I've heard that argument when I was depressed, and it pissed me off.

Meh, personally, I would wait until you can look back and say, "I wish I never had to be around more than half my life." Then I think you are justified in ending your misery. As it stands though, you're still fairly young, so there is a good chance your circumstances will change before too long. Also, nobody hates their life before they reach double digits, so, hang around 'till your no longer a teen, because so far, life has probably given you more ups than downs if you count your early years.
I think you should shut up. No really, stop talking. I know you meant to say something positive, but you failed. Never should anyone suggest suicide as a solution, because quite frankly it is a rash and illogical solution at that. Your depression should never get the better of you. There are infinite amount of solutions that would prevent suicide, since a person life would suck so much, it couldn't possibly get any worse by looking for that certain solution. Never suggest suicide.
 
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