Dark.Pch
1. It may intrigue you to know that while Peach is floating, one of the options every character has is to run in underneath her. From this position, she can do aerials which are safe on shield, such as fair.
However, this is not the only option that players have against Peach, there are more! mix-ups, if you will. One such mix-up is to run into her and SH air dodge when she attempts to fair (or bair, what have you).
This is over-simplifying the situation massively, as there are many nuances in regards to the timing of both players' moves and minor spacing differences - HOWEVER, one of Peach's potential options in this situation is to just drop, drop with a dair or drop with a nair. All of these things can be grabbed. If you are planning on never choosing any of these options when G&W runs into you, you're gonna get smacked by aerials all day.
2. No decent G&W is going to use bair in such a way that it can be SDI'd through and punished. That's nonsense 2008 metagame. Bair is a long-range poke and pressure starter - nothing more. Again, I request videos of someone SDI'ing through it and punishing it, I don't think that's an unreasonable demand.
Dude, you can not grab my air attacks unless I misspace them. I don't know what part of that you don't understand. can't believe i have to use frame data for this simple nonsense.
Dair:
Optimal Shield Advantage Autocanceled: -3 (-5 hard landing)
I dair your shield without the hard landing, you can not grab me. By the time I am able to move as you go for a grab I your grab will connect on frame 3. My Jab is 2 frames. Grab is 6 frames. I can move for 3. So as you do it, 6-3 = 3 frames I have to stop this grab from connecting. Which I have a jab for that. My Jab is 2.
You can not grab me!
Bair:
Optimal Shield Advantage: -4 (hard hit then land)
This is what you can grab if I do it with the hard hit. Even if I jab, you might get grab armor since it will happen at the same time. I do it the proper way, like this:
Optimal Shield Advantage Autocanceled: 0 (weak hit bair -> ac landing)
That means we can both move at the same time. So you try to go for a grab with is 6 frames. I go for reverse jab with is 3. You are gonna get slap.
You can not grab me!
And as I said with nair, if I space that move it can not be grabbed unless you are charizard. Thus in your case you are not gonna grab me unless i think you are gonna try to attack me or grab me and I fall on you with a nair, which you blocked.
Get if now. But I bet you you have no idea the distance I have to be to get 0 on bair and -3 on dair. You don't know the timing I have to fall down with it. You don't know that Nair is a frame trap and the reasons for it. You don't know the three ways I can cross up with a bair for frame traps on it. You don't know my options. You go based on what you think you can do on me. Yet you don't pay attention to what I can do to you. And stuff you can NOT do to me. You just go on this basic stuff that I am here correcting you on and bring you info on it. You just do things based on pure luck and when the Peach player messes up, you seriously think its legit instead of questioning it or fining out for yourself. Thats why the match up chart is a pile of crap. And why I stay having an easier time against players who think like you without fining stuff out and seeing if its really legit.
I don't wanna talk to you about this anymore. Do some homework and then comeback to me.
