Official SWF Tier List v8

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

It's called armor or launch resistance. Don't know what game you are playing, but it is pretty silly.

.....Your point is? Most people knew that a while back sir.

Please stop. You're hurting my brain.

Shaya understands.

 

[Man Li Gi]

.....But I am American, so I don't really care. I will call aeroplanes/airplanes, colour/color, harbour/harbor, programme/program, and armour/armor. Deal with it. Not everyone here speaks British English.

 

[1PokeMastr]

We're Canadian.

 

[Man Li Gi]

Cool beans... I saw you armour and that did not cause an internal rift with myself so putting armor should not cause any problems.

 

[MeekSpeedy]

For $100 if he wants.

how about $1.00 ??

 

[Nemy]

Whats the big deal about armir?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I like giving people money money matching.

 

[PKBeam]

I like giving people money money matching.

You money matching?
That's nice.

 

[Seagull Joe]

how about $1.00 ??

Sure bby.

 

[RaptorTEC]

Falco is a *****.

 

[Man Li Gi]

Random, but whatever.

 

[tekkie]

Sure bby.

...IN MONOPOLY MONEY

WOOOOAHAOH

 

[MeekSpeedy]

...IN MONOPOLY MONEY

WOOOOAHAOH

they're onto me

 

[1PokeMastr]

Raptor's mad because Yoshi sucks.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Dude **** Falco.

 

[1PokeMastr]

Bro, you're another Yoshi main.

It's okay.

 

[PKBeam]

yoshi OP
10

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Just do nothing, stand still and wait for Jiggs.
She's super easy to punish.

Jufflypugg is bad, but not as bad as Fox.

sigh-fi people actually think this

Jigglypuff can jump into range for hitting with tipper bair over and over, holding away every time so she gets out of your punish range asap. She can throw a bair, air dodge or mid air jump in to throw you off. She can land, pivot and jump back into you more aggressively with nair. She can land just out of grab-range and reset the situation. If you shield at any point or throw out a move, she can cross you up and put herself in a pretty good position.

Within the bair itself she can mix up how deep she is, and she can do this while the hitbox is out because of her mobility.

She is literally one of the best characters in the game at baiting out attacks and avoiding them (her punish game is average, but the avoidance is killer), and people think they can beat Puff just by standing there and countering her on reaction. Have fun against anyone who plays Puff with a brain.

The stuff Xeylode was saying before was pretty cool.

 

[PKBeam]

sigh-fi people actually think this

Jigglypuff can jump into range for hitting with tipper bair range over and over, holding away every time so she gets out of your punish range asap. She can throw a bair, air dodge or mid air jump in to throw you off. She can land, pivot and jump back into you more aggressively with nair. She can land just out of grab-range and reset the situation. If you shield at any point or throw out a move, she can cross you up and put herself in a pretty good position.

Within the bair itself she can mix up how deep she is, and she can do this while the hitbox is out because of her mobility.

She is literally one of the best characters in the game at baiting out attacks and avoiding them (her punish game is average, but the avoidance is killer), and people think they can beat Puff just by standing there and countering her on reaction. Have fun against anyone who plays Puff with a brain.

The stuff Xeylode was saying before was pretty cool.

Thor when will you realize that anyone posting about Jigglypuff is trolling?

Except for me. I'm always 100% serious, I never troll. Ever.

we were on jiggs for 2 pages. lets discuss zelda

 

[Grim Tuesday]

what is there to discuss? she's ass

honestly I feel like zelda is higher than last on the tier list because if you don't know the zelda mu and you don't know the ganon mu, you're gonna have an easier time against zelda
but if you actually sit down and look over her options
*shudder*

 

[1PokeMastr]

sigh-fi people actually think this

Jigglypuff can jump into range for hitting with tipper bair range over and over, holding away every time so she gets out of your punish range asap. She can throw a bair, air dodge or mid air jump in to throw you off. She can land, pivot and jump back into you more aggressively with nair. She can land just out of grab-range and reset the situation. If you shield at any point or throw out a move, she can cross you up and put herself in a pretty good position.

Within the bair itself she can mix up how deep she is, and she can do this while the hitbox is out because of her mobility.

She is literally one of the best characters in the game at baiting out attacks and avoiding them (her punish game is average, but the avoidance is killer), and people think they can beat Puff just by standing there and countering her on reaction. Have fun against anyone who plays Puff with a brain.

The stuff Xeylode was saying before was pretty cool.

I'm not an expert on Bairs, but I do use Donkey Kong and I'm not bad with him.
You have a nice pink foot, it can get some jobs done, but our giant brown ape feet have no hurtbox, also have infinite range.

All I have to do is turn away from you.
Wait for you to throw a pink foot my way.
And I'll play some footsies with your pink foot, using my giant brown ape foot.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ZIAZCWU8g

this is some old **** so excuse any scrubbiness
but you get the idea

EDIT: actually just started watching it
how disgusting >_>
just use the match to aid your imagination, don't take it as a super literal representation of how the match-up should play out
this is how I believe one should actually do footsies with puff

point is, I can place myself in range for my bair very easily, and I have better options out of a short hop. Being out-ranged doesn't matter when you have mobility like Puff, she can be at her optimal range any time you whiff or commit to any action. You should be able to gleam that from the video, even if it's pre bad

It's not as easy as you think

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

I'm not an expert on Bairs, but I do use Donkey Kong and I'm not bad with him.
You have a nice pink foot, it can get some jobs done, but our giant brown ape feet have no hurtbox, also have infinite range.

All I have to do is turn away from you.
Wait for you to throw a pink foot my way.
And I'll play some footsies with your pink foot, using my giant brown ape foot.

DK vs Puff MM $2 Bo3 lessgo

 

[1PokeMastr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ZIAZCWU8g

this is some old **** so excuse any scrubbiness
but you get the idea

EDIT: actually just started watching it
how disgusting >_>
just use the match to aid your imagination, don't take it as a super literal representation of how the match-up should play out
this is how I believe one should actually do footsies with puff

point is, I can place myself in range for my bair very easily, and I have better options out of a short hop. Being out-ranged doesn't matter when you have mobility like Puff, she can be at her optimal range any time you whiff or commit to any action. You should be able to gleam that from the video, even if it's pre bad

It's not as easy as you think

What I "gleam" from this is that they aren't the greatest of Dk players, he seemed really awkward.

Also you ran into a fully charged punch
And your air mobility got you spiked.

DK vs Puff MM $2 Bo3 lessgo

If you're serious, sure.

 

[Man Li Gi]

We still are talking about Puff? You know I wish Sakurai instead put in Gengar instead of Puff because most people love Gengar.

Anyway on the Puff MU, pretty much anyone with decent air mobility and/or better/same range beats Puff. That includes: Luigi, Mario, Lucas, Ness, Pikachu, Fox, Falco, Wolf, Peach, MK, Kirby, ZSS, Samus, Squirtle, DK, TL, Snake, ROB, CF, Lucario, KD3, DDK, Pit, Marth, Wario, Pikachu, Ike, and Sonic.
This makes Puff top tier material.

 

[-LzR-]

Gengar for Smash 4 please.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

If you're serious, sure.

100% serious

 

[Man Li Gi]

From now on, Puff shall be known as Gengar.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

What I "gleam" from this is that they aren't the greatest of Dk players, he seemed really awkward.

Also you ran into a fully charged punch
And your air mobility got you spiked.

and M2K lost to a ROB
if you think you can actually wall out Gengar 100% with reactions after watching a match that clearly shows otherwise, you're delusional, all there is to it lol

 

[Man Li Gi]

I wonder if we will see a Gengar at Apex 2014.
Anyway, which ROB did M2K lose to? Was it Chibo? Please provide a link.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

lost to ocean

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

What the hell Grim he asked you to provide a link you jerk.

*doesn't provide a link*

 

[Shaya]

Lost to Ocean like half a decade ago.

 

[Man Li Gi]

Yeah now I remember that match. Shaya is right, that was kind of old. I just forgot about it since it was long ago.

 

[1PokeMastr]

Why would I try and wall out Gengar with Dk ?
Dk is clearly fighting type.

 

[Man Li Gi]

And ground type. With Gengar's levitate ability and all....

 

[Desu~]

Screw you all.

Mawile AKA Mawaifu for smash 4.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

M2K's not the only top-level MK who has lost to a ROB player...

 

[1PokeMastr]

He's the only one we care about.

 

[infiniteV115]

The other top level MK player being Kakera, right?