Official SWF Matchup Chart v3.0

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

You don't have to be facing the opponent to fair, scrub

You do if you want to hit them

 

[Grim Tuesday]

:O
why would you want do to that
it's so... violent

 

[ぱみゅ]

Fullhop reverse Fair, it will hit an unaware opponent in the ground (probably a gimmick against spotdodge-happy people).

 

[~ Gheb ~]

You do if you want to hit them

You don't actually have to.

 

[Bobwithlobsters]

Everyone's a comedian.

I totally misread this as everyone's a Canadian. oddly fitting though...

 

[PKBeam]

There's an error with Zelda vs Samus.
It says -1 on Zelda's end but -2 on Samus's end.


Though really like 1/3rd of her match ups are erroneous and you guys did a pretty bad terrible on it,
but in terms of consistency the Samus/Zelda one is wrong.


I need a good kii,
someone be a dear and post who was on the Zelda panel.
I was B& when yall made this new mess chart.

Dat troll post

 

[ぱみゅ]

Except sis is right on the Zelda/Samus observation

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

You don't actually have to.

Well I guess we play COMPLETELY different styles.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

All I'm saying is that Wolf can hit his opponent with fair without having to face his way.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

All I'm saying is that Wolf can hit his opponent with fair without having to face his way.

Well then Wolf breaks the rules of Smash and should be nerfed posthaste.

 

[DeLux]

I agree Wolf is broken
Teleports through the stage has no lag flies through the air invincible landings

Ban wolf imo

 

[Ghostbone]

And then Wolf gets grabbed

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

And then Wolf gets grabbed

How is he supposed to get grabbed when he FLIES THROUGH THE AIR and has INVINCIBLE LANDINGS, huh?

 

[Ghostbone]

How is he supposed to get grabbed when he FLIES THROUGH THE AIR and has INVINCIBLE LANDINGS, huh?

How is he supposed to fly through the air while being 0 > death'd from a grab.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

How is he supposed to fly through the air while being 0 > death'd from a grab.

idk how this game works down in kangarooland, but here in North America we don't start matches in a grab.

 

[Shaya]

ICs buffered desync ice block into dash grab says otherwise >.>

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

ICs buffered desync ice block into dash grab says otherwise >.>

Are the stages really that much smaller in Australia?

No wonder Tin Man is winning so much. Stages are so small there's nowhere to go to avoid his C-Stick.

 

[Ghostbone]

idk how this game works down in kangarooland, but here in North America we don't start matches in a grab.

Don't start matches flying through the air either.

And if he's flying through the air he's not hitting you
ggggg

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

Don't start matches flying through the air either.

And if he's flying through the air he's not hitting you
ggggg

Ever heard of aerial attacks bro?

 

[Grim Tuesday]

They were taken out of the Australian version
Too reminiscent of drop bears, didn't want to offend any of the victims.

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

They were taken out of the Australian version
Too reminiscent of drop bears, didn't want to offend any of the victims.

Wow what a free country.

 

[PKBeam]

And if he's flying through the air he's not hitting you
ggggg

Ever hit a player into another player? That's how I died once in a three-way Sudden Death.

Wow what a free country.

In Australia we have our own tier list.is bottom tier

 

[Grim Tuesday]

It's surprising that Ted can place so well with Wario despite our version of the game not having aerials

What a free country.

 

[PKBeam]

But Ted can do a trick where Wario chaingrabs all characters up to 9001% and finish them with a fully charged Fsmash but only Ted can do it everyone else can't.

 

[1PokeMastr]

Oh you mean Ice Climbers.

 

[MeekSpeedy]

So apparently Ganon can warlock punch Wario out of grab release

 

[Seagull Joe]

How is he supposed to fly through the air while being 0 > death'd from a grab.

What character 0 to deaths besides from a grab?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

 

[Gardex]

What character 0 to deaths besides from a grab?

Ivysaur.

Throw > bullet seed > usmash.

0-death

 

[Ishiey]

What character 0 to deaths besides from a grab?

- smallstep CG > ledge infinite CG > dtilt at the ledge

- dthrow x3 > pummel > dthrow until 100% or some crap > guaranteed footstool > QAL > charged smash

That's it. Too bad (afaik) none of the D3s know the ledge infinite and none of the Pikachus are consistent with the footstool > QAL.

 

[infiniteV115]

I'm fairly certain you're right about DDD but I've never heard of Arcanine having a 0-death on Wolf out of a grab

 

[Shiny Mewtwo aka Jigglysir]

What character 0 to deaths besides from a grab?

flaoc 0-deaths bad Wolfs out of a grab.

I know cuz i did it on Saturday.

 

[Seagull Joe]

- smallstep CG > ledge infinite CG > dtilt at the ledge

- dthrow x3 > pummel > dthrow until 100% or some crap > guaranteed footstool > QAL > charged smash

That's it. Too bad (afaik) none of the D3s know the ledge infinite and none of the Pikachus are consistent with the footstool > QAL.

I love that you're posting like me with the character icons.

Also, the reason I posted what I did above is because the infinites / do never happen outside of theory. I've never been ledge infinited. I've been cg'd on the ledge maybe 3-4 times and then they mess it up. I've never been QAC locked from the dthrow at 100%. Sure, I could include that they infinite or 0 to death him, but it never happens...

 

[Ishiey]

^ agreed with you on that much. While the infinites exist, nobody in the current metagame does them so it's essentially a non-issue for the time being.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

He was probably also counting Sopo's CG
which, while not 0 > death, is stupid

 

[| Big D |]

So about that D3 infinite on Wolf...

In order for it to work the dthrow has to be somewhat fresh, basically you need to pummel in between each dthrow at the ledge.

So really you could mash out of it until really high percents.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Really REALLY high percents if the Wolf player has a re-mapped d-pad

 

[pidgezero_one]

wow jigglypuff is terrible

 

[Ghostbone]

Cirno Jigglypuff is the strongest?

 

[False]

I agree Wolf is broken
Teleports through the stage has no lag flies through the air invincible landings

Ban wolf imo

I hope you're kidding ; ;

Wolf is so bad