hrmph.
we are not and never,i mean NEVER will ban a move,why?because not olny is it easier to ban a stage that abuses such tactics,and everyone who mains that character will be pissed(i second IC so...)
what you need to do is,dont get grabbed, stop johning about big blue and green greens,and LERN2PLAY
I'm not johning Big Blue and Green Greens, I don't want them banned. It's the people who want them banned that are johning. People should never say "no johns" and then ban a stage because they didn't know how to fight on it and SD'ed all of their stocks, that would be their fault. Also, we HAVE banned tactics, ledge-stalling, rising-pound stall, wall-bombing stall, many have banned wobbling. While many people say that tourneys can't tell people how to play the game, that's exactly what they are doing by banning stages. I'm not saying that Dedede CG'ing should be flat out banned, I'm just saying that if Dedede CG'ing is worth banning stages, than it's worth banning it itself and IC's infinites are worth banning. I'm saying that if "Don't get grabbed" is your oppinion, then you can't ban stages because of it. There are still 5 characters who can't ever escape Dedede CG'ing it if it's done perfectly, Green Greens just makes it so that only 12 can escape it, that is debatably broken, but so is the technique itself. I agree in many cases on Dedede Chain-grabbing that one should just not get grabbed, but realisticly he or she will unless it's Gimpyfish vs. someone who isn't very good. If 2 players are evenly matched, they will both probably get grabbed, the only difference is that one is Ness, while the other is Dedede or Ice Climbers, when Ness gets Grabbed, he will get infinited. What's next, banning stages because of wobbling? The first stage banned for that reason would be final destination (I'd like that, but I'd also know it's wrong). While I may hate final destination, I don't think it should be banned, I don't think it should stay neutral either, but that's just my oppinion. Next these could become the only allowed stages if Wobbling were to ban stages: Icicle Mountain, Big Blue, Rainbow Cruise, Poke Floats and maybe Brinstar and Brinstar Depths and maybe a few others, not many at all. If one thinks Wobbling is broken but would rather ban stages instead of wobbling, they would only allow those. That list is pretty much stages with hazards that come often and moving stages, half of which are already banned. Either Dedede CG'ing is not worth banning stages or it's worth banning itself. The only reasonable Green Greens ban reason would be the exploding field glitch, which would be debatedly unfair in Zelda's favor, not Dedede's. It's not like nobody can prove that Dedede used his debatably broken CG, it's obvious, therefore a ban on it's enforceable. A ban on it would also be concrete, the only thing that is debatable is if it's warranted, read your stage ban list and reasoning to decide if it is. I also think that if you want to ban a stage because of that technique/tactic, try to ban said technique/tactic on that stage or period. We could just ban Dedede CG'ing on Green Greens, but not fd. I don't like excessive stage banning and think that people should at least TRY to save a stage. Like Temple, if Motion Sensor Bombs are on, you can prevent or at least limit running in circles, but there are reasons that people want items off, which is reasonable as well. I think that Temple just doesn't work with the given ruleset, which is true. I did have to write a new ruleset altogether for my SSBM Banned Stages Tournament, most of it was due to Temple in the non-debug variation and the debug stages and glitches in the debug variation. There is no perfect ruleset, and that's why the top leagues should not all use extremely similar rulesets.
