"Variety" is irrelevant if the characters are loved. You're advocating characters based on whether or not they fit into certain categories rather than whether or not the characters themselves are worthwhile.
People would rather have those three over any other starter trio you could come up with. That's FAR more important than worrying about "repping the gens."
I do agree that I'm putting too much stock into what categories they fall under, but we have to stretch outside the box for a second here; The other three generations are very popular as well and have some widely loved starters like Blaziken, Mudkip (...Fads), Cyndaquil, Chikorita, Piplup, etc. In the grand scheme of things, people argue Jigglypuff shouldn't be there because she isn't that important to the game itself, while on the contrary, PT Is a far better way to branch out as whatever starters you put, It won't change how important they are or PT's role. If you take PT Out of only having one generation of pokemon, fans of Gold/Silver/Whatever are happy, especially with a remake out soon. Fans of Diamond/Pearl are happy instead of having the possible removal of Lucario. Fans of Ruby/Saphire are happy.
Of course people might also be questioned and the happiness won't be as high in opposition to a complete set of one generation, but some things have a risk on them.
It's just how I view it, not really trying to force it considering I agree with you on having Claus and Pokey with Ness and Lucas, making that more Mother 3 representation even If Pokey is in his EB Mech.
Would I be fine with it? Considering I don't use PT, Whatever. Some other starters to me do appeal as playable. Would it be better than removing Jiggs in favor of branching out the very large series? That we don't know, but in a hypothetical world, If It did happen, It would have more mixed reactions than most other topics. That's for sure.
*Meanwhile, Sakurai enjoys a martini in a relaxed position.
I think we're looking a bit far into some of these things. What seems to be the definite pick here? Top 5 newcomers hands down.
"So Sakurai, I heard some people wanted other gen pokemon on there pokemon trainer" "Just make PT Have piplup or something." "Why?" "Squirtle is lame." "K"
*Some years later*
"Wait why piplup?"
*50 zillion theories inserted here*
As for the second part; not putting third-parties...
1.Isaac/Golden Sun Protagonist - Has almost everything for a viable character and a bag of chips. You can't really go wrong here, and GS Did get an amazing remix along with an Assist Trophy when it was viewed as "Dead" - Also treated like one of nintendo's bigger franchises. No huge disadvantages.
2.Little Mac - The only thing I can think of against him is what Chronobound posted; aka bad sales for the newest game in japan. Even then, the Assist Trophy has me believing that he was heavily considered as a "Retro Addition" (Feel free to kill me now, toise)
3.Ridley - Highly requested character blah Important blah Metroid is even bigger in nintendo's big franchises now blah. tl;dr version is that his only disadvantage comes from being hard to program.
4.Samurai Goroh - GOROH...PAWNCH. F-Zero has all the things needed to warrant a second character along with having no awkward priority.
5.Newest Pokemon - Feel free to kill me now, SmashChu. As long as there's a fifth gen, there will be this.
...That, and every single topic outside the first four are rather unknown with even the four I listed being so.
Hmm... isn't adding Pokemon from 2nd-5th gens for the sake of having 2nd-5th gen Pokemon the Pokemon equilavent to the whole "we need more females/villains" thing? If "females/villains" is not a good way to build the whole roster, then "every gen" is not a good way to build the Pokemon roster either.
Not quite. It's more so that they're popular enough to have more representation outside of Pokemon, and the fact that Pokemon Trainer putting himself into only one generation instead of three is a bit odd with all these remakes and whatnot right around the corner.
Because really, keeping all the Pokemon from Brawl and just adding Mewtwo only is just uncreative and lazy.
I mean, there are no surprises and it won't generate controversy. The final roster always generate controversy in each game and when I see fan-made rosters that kept all the Pokemon and only added Mewtwo, it is a futile attempt to prevent controversy. The same goes for keeping everybody from Brawl and adding only the most popular of the popular characters.
Uncreative and Lazy vs Tons of fan complaints and mixed opinions.
Pick your poison.
Point is that outside of Pika and PT representing whatever, It's all 2-4 Wide open slots out there for the many pokemon. Jiggs for sure stands out and Sakurai knows that removing characters will at least get some backlash, so If Jiggs is still popular around the time of Smash 4, She's fine.
It really depends on the future, which we have no regard over, but from the knowledge we have we do know that jiggs is still very popular both in and out of smash.
Seriously, there's an article on
Smash Wiki showing just how ridiculous it is. Definitely not representory of the all-star cast. I may want to talk a bit more on this if folks are interested. How cool would it be if, for an F-Zero stage, you'd actually race for some segments, then hoping out the car to fight a boss on a F-Zero track or something. Good god,
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Oh god, that article was amazing. As for the F-Zero idea, I'm very much for that. If people want something not as canon-ish but still nintendo related, there's probably some way to think up that. Like why not have Wolf team up with Claus? Or Wario team up with Pokey? Just random ideas thrown out.
Well maybe if they stop focusing on the **** SSE they'll have time to make more characters. 39 with in a short amount of time, if the characters become their main focus, we could see more...though I can't wait to see how well they balance them >.>
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