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[Official SSB4 Discussion] --- Nintendo announces 2 new Smash games!
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Challenge accepted.
I didn't say it was. I'm just saying that she might be received better as a result. When I said that her inclusion could be looked in other ways, that was from our perspective, not a developer's.
Pieman0920
Smash Master
Same logic as saying that Smash needs more villains I suppose. Neither category is really well represented, so people think that there should be more of each group, despite the obvious fact that if these groups are not being well represented, then its probable that characters don't get in for just being a female or a villain, but rather their merits in being important to their series.
Still won't stop either type of argument from constanly being brought up.
(Though being either a female, villain, or both doesn't hurt your chances by any means. You just need to be more than that. Thus Lip being a female in of itself isn't a reason to be in, but it can be a plus.)
Neckbeard Torterra
Smash Journeyman
Needs more female villains.
...oh wait
Lets talk boss battles now.
IMO i would rather have SSB4 on a different console so we could have larger disc space.
(Because lots of villains and baysplosions makes a happy gamer, rite?)
The HP thing works fine for boss fights BUT- i would like it if Sakurai implemented a pattern/weakness type format. Having OMEGA Ridley fight mostly out of range in the background, but rests on the stage -Only being hurt by a fully charged F-smash to the chest.
It implements more survival in a platform game.
...oh wait
Lets talk boss battles now.
IMO i would rather have SSB4 on a different console so we could have larger disc space.
(Because lots of villains and baysplosions makes a happy gamer, rite?)
The HP thing works fine for boss fights BUT- i would like it if Sakurai implemented a pattern/weakness type format. Having OMEGA Ridley fight mostly out of range in the background, but rests on the stage -Only being hurt by a fully charged F-smash to the chest.
It implements more survival in a platform game.
Phantom7
Banned via Warnings
Interesting idea, Neckbeard, bosses should involve more strategy; hopefully they will have specific weaknesses rather than the simple 'attack until it dies' strategy in Brawl.
Mario the Jumpman
Smash Ace
I forgot to add Olimar to my roster, sorry! I'll do it!
Also, what music would you guys like to see in Smash 4? I would like to see Brawl's Shin Onigashima, and from Punch-Out!! Wii: the World Circuit, Mr. Sandman, and Aran Ryan themes.
Also, what music would you guys like to see in Smash 4? I would like to see Brawl's Shin Onigashima, and from Punch-Out!! Wii: the World Circuit, Mr. Sandman, and Aran Ryan themes.
Pieman0920
Smash Master
Stage music is somewhat dependant on the stages that are actually included. Thus, in my list of music for Smash 4 that I'm working on, I'm also including stages with it because of that. Still, some things I will say is that for Punch Out music, I'd like Soda Popinski and Disco Kid's music. (Everything else that Jumpman says is fine too, outside of Aran Ryan's theme, which isn't as good in my humble opinion)
Also Super Mario Galaxy, and DDR Mario Mix music should both be included, with the latter being sadly overlooked)
Also Super Mario Galaxy, and DDR Mario Mix music should both be included, with the latter being sadly overlooked)
UberMario
Smash Master
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The problem with making music lists is that most peoples' have 400+ tracks and almost every one has over 100 tracks another one doesn't have.
And what list are you talking about? Unless you didn't post it . . . .
If you're making a list, you might want to 'linkify' the songs to their Youtube counterparts if they're obscure.
Like this:
Lakeside Park -Mario Kart:Super Circuit
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
Maybe. I don't think he likes the idea of adding people who are virtually unknown. Also, if you think about it, Pit had a decent amount of demand but Sakurai said that he'd only do it if the GBA release of Kid Icarus sold well. In a way, he kind of bypassed the fans' demand and looked at something else. In a way, it kind of adds further evidence that Sakurai doesn't just add people because they are popular. For example, he also said that Ganondorf wouldn't have even been in Melee if his body structure wasn't so similar to Captain Falcon's despite him being the most requested Legend of Zelda character.
Well, in other news, we now have physical evidence that Jigglypuff and Pichu were joke characters so hopefully no one will try to argue that they weren't now. Also, I really need to see how well Takamaru's game sold because that may greatly affect if he appears in the next Smash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00oUsIBeCLs&feature=PlayList&p=6A997D261EEFE0E1&index=74
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlCb...1EEFE0E1&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=75 (played together with the song in the first link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFMc40qxJK4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN_j...D0DCDD77&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uovkIAG-Mk (assuming Ryu Hayabusa gets in
)
These ones are just off the top of my head, and half of them don't have much chance, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlCb...1EEFE0E1&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=75 (played together with the song in the first link)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFMc40qxJK4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN_j...D0DCDD77&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uovkIAG-Mk (assuming Ryu Hayabusa gets in
)These ones are just off the top of my head, and half of them don't have much chance, though.
Pieman0920
Smash Master
I havn't completed the list, so I havn't posted it yet, but from what I have so far, each one has a youtube link. For instance, for the prospect of a Mario stage based around Bowser's Castle, the format I have goes like this...
Mario Stage 2 (Bowser Castle Theme)
Nemesis King Koopa Vocals (SMG) – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IObwdOCAfdU&feature=related
Final Bowser Battle (SMG) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIuvjG3Egjo
Bowser’s Star Reactor (SMG/SM64) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_gS2jO2PjM
Angry Bowser (PM) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFbdwxLDzMA
Bowser Fight (SM64) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kye9HKC4Uo
Bowser Castle Remix (DDR MM)- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J24vpqlIgA&feature=related
Bowser Fight (SPM) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQLrHp74YYc
Incidently Mario Stage 1 is supposed to be based around SMG.
UberMario
Smash Master
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What, you don't give them names?
Also, I'm going to post my list soon as well (within two months, which really isn't soon)
Mario the Jumpman
Smash Ace
Here's an idea for a stage in SSB4: the Boxing Ring from the Punch-Out!! series! It is a normal stage... except fighters can get bounced off of ropes! A bonus feature of this stage is that when Little Mac does something like Snake and the SF characters do, Doc Louis will give Mac tips on how to beat one of his opponents! What do you guys think?
Pieman0920
Smash Master
?
You mean the stage name? I guess I havn't since I've never really come to a solid decision about all the stages, so I just say theme to make it more conformed. If its not that, I gave the song's name in most cases, unless I didn't know the official name.
That's actually what my idea for the PO stage should be (technically being world circuit) and the only real difference in my mind is that there could be a rope ladder to nowhere that shows up in the middle of the ring. (As seen in the SMM and
Donkey Kong
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
You know what? I'd love it if with the next Smash poll they held a contest to see who can make the best music remixes for SSB4 and the top ten winners would have their content added in the game. (Technically, when people do this they forfeit their ownership to the larger company so their wouldn't be any copyright issues.) For example, I think this would be amazing to fight to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGynVTbwc28
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGynVTbwc28
ScoobyCafe
Smash Journeyman
"Greatly" is too strong of a word. It may influence whether Takamaru appears or not, but at the end of the day, Sakurai's opinion is practically the only thing that matters when it comes to choosing characters.
But since you asked, GBA Nazo no Murasame-Jou total sales figures rounds up to 0.07m according to VGChartz.
Sales History: http://www.vgchartz.com/swlaunch.php?game1=Famicom Mini 22 Nazo no Murasamejo - GBA
In Famitsu sales 2004, Nazo no Murasamejō placed in 241th place out of 500, which is impressive.
Code:
1 PS2 Dragon Quest VIII: Sora to Umi to Daichi to Norowareshi Himegimi 3,327,167 Square Enix
2 GBA Pokemon FireRed/LeafGreen 2,392,005 Pokemon
3 PS2 Dragon Quest V: Tenkuu no Hanayome 1,611,974 Square Enix
4 GBA Pokemon Emerald 1,375,233 Pokemon
5 PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 8 1,042,234 Konami
6 PS2 Sengoku Musou 1,024,253 Koei
7 PS2 Jissen Pachi-Slot Hisshouhou: Hokuto no Ken 916,765 Sammy
8 PS2 Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater 694,307 Konami
9 PS2 Derby Stallion 04 600,970 Enterbrain
10 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. 576,706 Nintendo
11 PS2 Onimusha 3 569,275 Capcom
12 GBA Hoshi no Kirby: Kagami no Daimeikyuu 567,013 Nintendo
13 PS2 World Soccer Winning Eleven 7 International 527,375 Konami
14 PS2 Super Robot Taisen MX 520,701 Banpresto
15 PS2 Dragon Ball Z 2 507,245 Bandai
16 GC Pikmin 2 469,063 Nintendo
17 PS2 Tales of Rebirth 443,942 Namco
18 PS2 Grand Theft Auto: Vice City 410,165 Capcom
19 PS2 SD Gundam G Generation Seed 406,618 Bandai
20 GC Paper Mario RPG 395,171 Nintendo
21 GBA Rockman EXE 4 Tournament: Blue Moon/Red Sun 393,014 928,850 Capcom
22 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 11 392,483 Konami
23 PS2 Tales of Symphonia 388,770 Namco
24 PS2 Naruto: Narutimate Hero 2 381,277 Bandai
25 GC Mario Party 6 373,450 Nintendo
26 DS Super Mario 64 DS 366,603 Nintendo
27 GBA Mawaru Made in Wario 359,098 Nintendo
28 PS2 Sengoku Musou: Mushouden 355,376 Koei
29 DS Sawaru Made in Wario 350,311 Nintendo
30 GBA Famicom Mini: Super Mario Bros. 2 343,170 Nintendo
31 PS2 J-League Pro Soccer Club o Tsukurou! '04 342,184 Sega
32 PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 3 Empires 316,763 Koei
33 GC Mario Tennis GC 313,096 Nintendo
34 PS2 Genso Suikoden IV 300,437 Konami
35 GBA Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories 288,901 Square Enix
36 PS2 Final Fantasy X-2 International + Last Mission 288,574 Square Enix
37 PS2 Monster Hunter 288,559 Capcom
38 GBA Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire 287,026 5,189,246 Pokemon
39 PS2 Ace Combat 5: The Unsung War 285,127 Namco
40 PS2 Daito Giken Koushiki Pachi-Slot Simulator Yoshimune 269,276 Daito Giken
41 GBA Final Fantasy I+II Advance 269,174 Square Enix
42 PS2 Mobile Suit Gundam: Gundam vs. Z Gundam 268,161 Bandai
43 GC Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen! 3 265,739 Tomy
44 PS2 Gran Turismo 4: Prologue Edition 256,511 747,692 SCE
45 PS2 Xenosaga Episode II 256,412 Namco
46 PS2 Momotarou Dentetsu USA 243,459 Hudson
47 PS2 Fuuun Shinsengumi 243,210 Genki
48 GBA Fire Emblem: Seima no Kouseki 233,280 Nintendo
49 GC Mario Kart: Double Dash!! 231,222 799,071 Nintendo
50 GBA Famicom Mini: Zelda no Densetsu 1 217,636 Nintendo
51 PS2 Kidou Senshi Gundam Seed: Owaranai Asu E 216,643 Bandai
52 GC Mario Party 5 216,409 697,462 Nintendo
53 GBA Densetsu no Stafy 3 212,946 Nintendo
54 PS2 Hajime no Ippo 2: Victorious Road 208,304 ESP
55 PS2 Minna no Golf 4 207,827 1,083,079 SCE
56 GBA Rockman EXE 5: Team of Blues 204,531 Capcom
57 PS2 Ratchet & Clank 3 198,713 SCE
58 GBA Naruto: Saikyou Ninja Daikesshu 2 196,891 Tomy
59 GC Donkey Konga 188,696 427,096 Nintendo
60 GBA Famicom Mini: Ice Climber 187,316 Nintendo
61 GBA Zelda no Densetsu: Fushigi no Boushi 186,562 Nintendo
62 PS2 Dragon Quest & Final Fantasy in Itadaki Street Special 185,809 Square Enix
63 GBA Famicom Mini: Ganbare Goemon! Karakuri Douchuu 184,208 Nintendo
64 GBA Mario vs. Donkey Kong 177,657 Nintendo
65 DS Pokemon Dash 176,999 Pokemon
66 PS2 Puyo Puyo Fever 176,793 Sega
67 PS2 Magna Carta 174,535 Banpresto
68 GC Naruto: Gekitou Ninja Taisen! 2 173,287 396,608 Tomy
69 PS2 BioHazard Outbreak File 2 172,581 Capcom
70 GC Pokemon Colosseum 170,503 656,189 Pokemon
71 GBA Mario & Luigi RPG 163,971 438,781 Nintendo
72 GBA Gyakuten Saiban 3 161,893 Capcom
73 GBA Famicom Mini: Donkey Kong 161,811 Nintendo
74 PS2 EyeToy: Play 161,409 SCE
75 GBA Dragon Ball Z: Bukuu Tougeki 160,176 Banpresto
76 PS2 Kinnikuman Generations 158,804 Bandai
77 PS2 Katamari Damacy 155,869 Namco
78 GBA Super Mario Advance 4 155,343 612,438 Nintendo
79 PS2 Taiko no Tatsujin: Atsumare! Matsuri Da!! Yondaime 154,356 Namco
80 GBA Yoshi no Banyuu Inryoku 153,460 Nintendo
81 PS2 Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner 153,421 Atlus
82 GBA Crayon Shin-Chan: Arashi no Yobu Cinema-Land no Daibouken! 152,680 Banpresto
83 PS2 Pachi-Slot Toukon Denshou 149,333 Success
84 PS2 Phantom Brave 148,295 Nippon Ichi Software
85 PS2 Star Ocean 3: Till the End of Time Director's Cut 146,859 Square Enix
86 GC Custom Robo: Battle Revolution 144,049 Nintendo
87 GC Wario World 142,618 Nintendo
88 PS2 Taiko no Tatsujin: Appare Sandaime 141,075 578,993 Namco
89 PS2 Tenchu Kurenai 141,029 From Software
90 GBA Famicom Mini: Link no Bouken 139,800 Nintendo
91 GBA Hagane no Renkinjutsushi: Meisou no Rinbukyoku 135,637 Bandai
92 PS2 Kotoba no Puzzle: Mojipittan (PlayStation 2 the Best) 134,248 Namco
93 PS2 Armored Core: Nexus 132,656 From Software
94 PS2 Hagane no Renkinjutsushi: Tobenai Tenshi 131,289 252,651 Square Enix
95 PSP Minna no Golf Portable 130,988 SCE
96 GBA Naruto RPG: Uketsugareshi Hi no Ishi 130,871 Tomy
97 PS2 Hagane no Renkinjutsushi 2: Akaki Elixir no Akuma 130,373 Square Enix
98 PS2 Final Fantasy XI: Promathia no Jubaku 129,716 Square Enix
99 GBA Power Pro Kun Pocket 6 128,748 265,183 Konami
100 GC Zelda no Densetsu: 4tsu no Tsurugi+ 127,399 Nintendo
101 PS2 Sega Ages 2500 Series Vol. 11: Hokuto no Ken 126,173 3D Ages
102 GBA Famicom Mini: Dr. Mario 125,108 Nintendo
103 GBA Famicom Mini: Xevious 123,998 Nintendo
104 PS2 Gacha Mecha Stadium Saru Battle 122,963 SCE
105 GBA Power Pro Kun Pocket 1+2 122,287 Konami
106 GBA RockMan Zero 3 121,847 Capcom
107 GC Donkey Kong Jungle Beat 121,049 Nintendo
108 GBA Famicom Mini: Pac-Man 118,679 Nintendo
109 GBA Famicom Mini: Bomberman 117,776 Nintendo
110 PS2 Netsu Chu! Pro Yakyuu 2004 116,689 Namco
111 PS2 Kengo 3 116,275 Genki
112 PS2 Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2004 116,134 Konami
113 GBA Dragon Quest Characters: Torneko no Daibouken 3 Advance 115,262 Square Enix
114 PSP Ridge Racers 115,256 Namco
115 PS2 Taiko no Tatsujin: Waku Waku Anime Matsuri 114,021 205,130 Namco
116 PS2 Shadow Hearts II 110,279 Aruze
117 GBA Famicom Mini: Twinbee 109,699 Nintendo
118 GBA Famicom Mini: Excitebike 109,015 Nintendo
119 GBA Slime Morimori Dragon Quest: Shougeki No Shippo Dan 108,538 346,190 Square Enix
120 GBA Konjiki no Gashbell!! Unare! Yuujou no Zakeru 108,438 239,606 Banpresto
121 GC Donkey Konga 2: Hit Song Parade 106,309 Nintendo
122 GBA Zoku Bokura no Taiyou: Taiyou Shounen Django 105,416 Konami
123 PS2 Shining Tears 104,762 Sega
124 GBA Konjiki no Gashbell!! Makai no Bookmark 104,631 Banpresto
125 PS2 Taiko no Tatsujin: Go! Go! Godaime 104,425 Namco
126 GC Atsumare!! Made in Wario 103,974 400,785 Nintendo
127 GBA Super Donkey Kong 103,593 251,878 Nintendo
128 PS2 Kidou Senshi Z Gundam: AEUG Vs. Titans 103,552 638,667 Bandai
129 PS2 BioHazard Outbreak 103,317 437,779 Capcom
130 GBA Power Pro Kun Pocket 7 103,204 Konami
131 PS2 Minna no Golf 4 (PlayStation 2 the Best) 103,106 SCE
132 GBA Summon Night: Craft Sword Monogatari 2 101,248 Banpresto
133 GBA Super Mario Ball 101,237 Nintendo
134 PS2 One Piece Grand Battle! 3 100,673 321,396 Bandai
135 PS2 One Piece Land Land! 100,039 Bandai
136 PS2 Konjiki no Gashbell: Yuujou Tag Battle 99,182 Bandai
137 GBA Densetsu no Stafy 2 97,327 396,294 Nintendo
138 GBA Famicom Mini: Mappy 96,536 Nintendo
139 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 10 Chou Ketteiban: 2003 Memorial 96,042 198,734 Konami
140 GBA Tennis no Oji-Sama 2004: Glorious Gold/Stylish Silver 95,156 Konami
141 PS2 Momotarou Dentetsu 12 95,000 301,064 Hudson
142 GBA Dragon Ball: Advance Adventure 94,456 Banpresto
143 GBA Famicom Mini: Makai-Mura 94,179 Nintendo
144 GBA Famicom Mini: Mario Bros. 92,251 Nintendo
145 PS2 Kaido Battle 2: Chain Reaction 91,785 Genki
146 GBA Tottoko Hamtaro: Ham Ham Sports 91,775 Nintendo
147 PSP Shin Sangoku Musou 90,714 Koei
148 GBA Pokemon Pinball: Ruby & Sapphire 89,476 406,447 Pokemon
149 GBA Mario Golf: GBA Tour 88,904 Nintendo
150 PS2 Nobunaga no Yabou: Tenka Sousei 88,485 Koei
151 GBA Super Donkey Kong 2 88,026 Nintendo
152 GC Doubutsu no Mori e+ 87,792 355,035 Nintendo
153 PS2 Ratchet & Clank 2 87,305 223,535 SCE
154 GBA Famicom Mini: Takahashi Meijin no Bouken Jima 86,404 Nintendo
155 GBA Hagane no Renkinjutsushi: Omoide no Soumeikyoku 86,181 Bandai
156 GBA Croket! 3: Guranyuoukoku no Nazo 85,303 185,681 Konami
157 GBA One Piece: Going Baseball 85,281 Bandai
158 GBA Metroid: Zero Mission 85,045 Nintendo
159 PS2 KOF: Maximum Impact 85,036 SNK Playmore
160 PS2 Berserk: Millennium Falcon Hen Seima Senki no Shou 83,215 Sammy
161 DS Daigasso! Band Brothers 82,956 Nintendo
162 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 39: Boku no Machi Zukuri 82,228 111,758 D3 Publisher
163 GBA Famicom Mini: Star Soldier 82,082 Nintendo
164 PS2 Iris no Atelier: Eternal Mana 80,969 Gust
165 GC Kidou Senshi Gundam: Sen****achi no Kiseki 80,615 Bandai
166 PS2 Kashiramoji D Special Stage 79,601 Sega
167 PS2 Kessen III 78,654 Koei
168 PS2 J-League Winning Eleven 8: Asia Championship 78,038 Konami
169 PS2 Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne Maniax 77,791 Atlus
170 PS2 Dororo 77,033 Sega
171 PS2 Slotter Up Core 5 76,428 Dorart
172 GC Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 11 76,218 Konami
173 GBA Rockman EXE 4.5 Real Operation 75,809 Capcom
174 PS2 Hagane no Renkinjutsushi: Dream Carnival 75,622 Bandai
175 GBA Kidou Senshi Gundam Seed: Tomo to Kimi to Koko de 75,423 Bandai
176 PS2 Guilty Gear Isuka 74,270 Sammy
177 GBA Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters Expert 3 73,870 Konami
178 PS2 Sakura Taisen Monogatari 73,091 Sega
179 GBA Famicom Mini: Famicom Tantei Club - Kieta Koukeisha Zenkouhen 72,954 Nintendo
180 PS2 Soccer Life! 72,949 Banpresto
181 PS2 Front Mission 4 72,832 242,438 Square Enix
182 GBA Bokujou Monogatari: Mineral Town no Nakama Tachi for Girls 72,568 108,362 Marvelous Interactive
183 PS2 Sakura Taisen V Episode 0: Kouya no Samurai Musume 71,807 Sega
184 GC Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes 71,592 Konami
185 PS2 007: Everything or Nothing 71,373 Electronic Arts
186 PS2 PoPoLoCrois: Tsuki no Okite no Bouken 70,631 SCE
187 PS2 Waga Ryuu o Miyo: Pride of the Dragon Peace 70,184 SCE
188 GC Konjiki no Gashbell!! Yuujou no Tag Battle Full Power 69,453 Bandai
189 PS2 Ultraman 69,346 Bandai
190 PS2 Taikou Risshiden V 69,333 Koei
191 PS2 Armored Core: Nine Breaker 67,591 From Software
192 PS2 Silent Hill 4: The Room 67,424 Konami
193 PS2 The Nightmare of Druaga: Fushigi no Dungeon 67,295 Arika
194 GBA Croket! 4 67,276 Konami
195 GBA Konjiki no Gashbell!! Unare! Yuujou no Zakeru 2 67,219 Banpresto
196 GBA Dragon Ball Z: The Legacy of Goku II International 66,702 Banpresto
197 GBA Famicom Mini: Wrecking Crew 66,697 Nintendo
198 GBA Famicom Mini: Famicom Tantei Club Part II 66,535 Nintendo
199 GBA Made in Wario 66,092 622,898 Nintendo
200 GBA Legendz: Yomigaeru Shiren no Shima 65,329 Bandai
201 GBA Famicom Mini: Balloon Fight 65,083 Nintendo
202 PS2 Stella Deus 64,535 Atlus
203 GC Kirby no Air Ride 64,425 422,311 Nintendo
204 GBA Famicom Mini: Akumajou Dracula 64,397 Nintendo
205 PS2 Koukaku Kidoutai: Stand Alone Complex 63,899 SCE
206 PS2 Burnout 3: Takedown 62,341 Electronic Arts
207 GBA Finding Nemo 62,058 90,560 Yuke's
208 PS2 Gallop Racer Lucky 7 61,765 Tecmo
209 PS2 3-Nen B-Gumi Kinpachi Sensei: Densetsu no Kyoudan ni Tate! 61,680 Chunsoft
210 GBA Famicom Mini: Famicom Mukashi Banashi 61,437 Nintendo
211 XB Dead or Alive Ultimate 60,820 Tecmo
212 GBA Puyo Puyo Fever 60,486 Sega
213 PS2 San Goku Shi IX 60,386 117,429 Koei
214 DS Kimi no Tame Nara Shineru 59,324 Sega
215 PS2 SuperLite 2000 Puzzle Series: Tetris Kiwame Michi 59,071 68,779 Success
216 GBA Duel Masters 2: Invincible Advance 58,901 Takara
217 GBA Famicom Mini: SD Gundam World Gachapon Senshi - Scramble Wars 58,578 Nintendo
218 GBA Famicom Mini: Dig-Dug 58,572 Nintendo
219 PS2 King of Colosseum II 58,086 Spike
220 PS2 Boku no Natsuyasumi 2 (PlayStation 2 the Best) 57,638 SCE
221 PS2 Rakushou! Pachi-Slot Sengen 2 57,538 Tecmo
222 PS2 Gradius V 56,684 Konami
223 XB Ninja Gaiden 56,544 Tecmo
224 GC Sonic Heroes 56,281 56,281 Sega
225 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 48: The Taxi: Utenshu wa Kimi da 56,168 D3 Publisher
226 PS2 FIFA Total Football 2 56,075 Electronic Arts
227 GBA Zettai Zetsumei: Denja Rasuji-San 55,517 Kids Station
228 PS2 Crimson Tears 55,501 Capcom
229 GBA Downtown Nekketsu Monogatari EX 55,406 Atlus
230 PS2 Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 11 Chou Ketteiban 54,853 Konami
231 PS2 Exciting Pro Wrestling 5 54,079 Yuke's
232 GC One Piece Grand Battle! 3 53,719 155,206 Bandai
233 PS2 Tennis no Oji-Sama: Saikyou Team o Kessei Seyo! 53,650 Konami
234 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 61: The Oneechanbara 53,587 D3 Publisher
235 PS2 The King of Fighters 2002 53,331 SNK Playmore
236 PS2 Formula One 2004 52,889 SCE
237 GBA Gyakuten Saiban 2 (Best Price!) 52,634 54,881 Capcom
238 PS2 Sakurazaka Shouboutai 52,582 Irem Software Engineering
239 DS Chokkan Hitofude 52,242 Nintendo
240 PS2 Sega Ages 2500 Series Vol. 12: Puyo Puyo Tsuu Perfect Set 52,008 3D Ages
241 GBA Famicom Mini: Nazo no Murasame-Jou 51,807 Nintendo
242 GC Bokujou Monogatari: Wonderful Life for Girls 51,772 Marvelous Interactive
243 PS2 Bujingai 51,549 94,665 Taito
244 GBA Boboboubo Boubobo: 9 Kiwame Senshi Gyagu Yuugou 51,434 Hudson
245 PS2 Ico (PlayStation 2 the Best) 51,273 SCE
246 GBA Hoshi no Kirby Yume no Izumi Deluxe 51,190 832,901 Nintendo
247 GC Zoids vs. III 50,737 Tomy
248 GBA Famicom Mini: Metroid 50,353 Nintendo
249 PS2 La Pucelle: Hikari no Seijo Densetsu Nishuu 50,229 Nippon Ichi
250 PS2 Saru EyeToy 50,218 SCE
251 PS2 Grand Theft Auto III 50,153 358,917 Capcom
252 PS2 Naruto: Narutimate Hero 49,775 313,755 Bandai
253 PS2 Tenshou Gakuen Gensouroku 49,737 Asmik Ace Entertainment
254 PS2 Shinten Makai: Generation of Chaos IV 49,693 Idea Factory
255 GBA Famicom Mini: Hikari Shinwa: Palutena no Kagami 49,538 Nintendo
256 PS2 Street Fighter III: Third Strike 49,088 Capcom
257 PS2 Sonic Heroes 48,899 48,899 Sega
258 PS2 Arc the Lad: Generation 48,667 SCE
259 PS2 Rakushou! Pachi-Slot Sengen 48,435 134,371 Tecmo
260 PS2 Dokodemo Issyo: Toro to Nagare Boshi 47,867 SCE
261 GBA Futari wa Precure: Arienai! Yume no Kuni ha Daimeikyuu 47,671 Bandai
262 GC Super Robot Taisen GC 47,025 Banpresto
263 PS2 Shaman King: Funbari Spirits 46,748 Bandai
264 PS2 Kamen Rider Blade 46,131 Bandai
265 PS2 Lord of the Rings: Ou no Kikan 45,806 Electronic Arts
266 PS2 SNK vs. Capcom: SVC Chaos 45,628 86,798 SNK Playmore
267 PS2 Dokapon DX 45,595 Asmik Ace Entertainment
268 PS2 Jissen Pachi-Slot Hisshouhou! Sammy's Collection 2 45,275 Sammy
269 PS2 Dokapon the World 45,096 Asmki Ace Entertainment
270 GBA Tottoko Hamtaro 4: Nijiiro Daikoushin Dechu 44,850 293,495 Nintendo
271 GBA Croket! Great Jikuu no Boukensha 44,812 Konami
272 PS2 Lupin III: Columbus no Isan wa Akenisomaru 44,762 Banpresto
273 PS2 FIFA Total Football 44,639 Electronic Arts
274 PS2 Inuyasha: Juuso no Kamen 44,627 Bandai
275 PS2 R: Racing Evolution 44,338 130,889 Namco
276 PS2 Beni no Umi 2 44,175 Koei
277 PS2 SOCOM II: U.S. Navy SEALs 43,420 SCE
278 GBA Famicom Mini: Clu Clu Land 42,944 Nintendo
279 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 56: The Survival Game 42,640 D3 Publisher
280 PS2 Tokyo Majin Gakuen: Kaihoujyou Kefurokou 42,604 Marvelous Interactive
281 GBA Sonic Advance 3 42,574 Sega
282 DS Kenshuui Tendo Dokuta 42,430 Spike
283 XB Halo 2 42,310 Microsoft
284 GBA Kidou Senshi Gundam Seed Destiny 42,091 Bandai
285 GC Zelda no Densetsu: Kaze no Takuto 41,939 742,609 Nintendo
286 PS2 Densha de Go! Final 41,820 Taito
287 PS2 Kowloon Youma Gakuen Ki 41,726 Atlus
288 PS2 Need for Speed Underground 41,405 53,131 Electronic Arts
289 PS2 EX Jinsei Game II 41,147 81,171 Takara
290 PS2 Need for Speed Underground J (EA Best Hits) 40,977 Electronic Arts
291 PS2 Monkey Turn V 40,773 Bandai
292 PS2 Pop'n Music 9 40,721 Konami
293 PS2 NBA Live 2005 40,116 Electronic Arts
294 PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 3 Mushouden 39,944 531,303 Koei
295 PS2 Final Fantasy X (Mega Hits) 39,789 199,429 Square
296 GC Dairantou Smash Brothers DX 39,570 1,349,418 Nintendo
297 GBA Wagamama * Fairy Mirumo de Pon! Hachinin no Toki no Yousei 39,269 67,329 Konami
298 PS2 Sanyo Pachinko Paradise 9 39,182 71,896 Irem Software Engineering
299 PS2 Kishin Houkou Demon Bane 38,969 Kadokawa Shoten
300 PS2 Smash Court Tennis Pro Tournament 2 38,773 Namco
301 PS2 Bokujou Monogatari: Oh! Wonderful Life 38,706 Marvelous Interactive
302 GBA Game Boy Wars Advance 1+2 38,659 Nintendo
303 PS2 Spy Fiction 38,613 56,913 Sammy
304 PS2 Pro Yakyuu Spirits 2004 Climax 38,476 Konami
305 GBA SD Gundam G Generation Advance 38,455 230,569 Bandai
306 PSP Metal Gear Acid 38,329 Konami
307 GBA Crash Bandicoot Advance 2 38,310 66,080 Konami
308 PS2 The King of Fighters 2003 38,160 SNK Playmore
309 PS2 Football Kingdom: Touring Edition 37,881 Namco
310 GBA Naruto: Konoha Senki 37,682 130,714 Tomy
311 GBA B-Densetsu! Battle B-Daman: Moero! B-Damashi!! 37,192 Atlus
312 PS2 RockMan X Command Mission 36,635 Capcom
313 PS2 Anubis: Zone of the Enders Special Edition 35,533 Konami
314 PS2 Slotter Up Core 3 35,287 Dorart
315 GC Kidou Senshi Gundam: Gundam vs. Z Gundam 35,197 Bandai
316 GBA Shining Force: Kuroki Ryuu no Fukkatsu 34,794 Sega
317 PS2 Keroro Gunsou: MeroMero Battle Royale 34,670 Bandai
318 GBA Minna no Soft Series: Tetris Advance 34,526 47,087 Success
319 PS2 Viewtiful Joe: Arata naru Kibou 34,325 Capcom
320 PS2 Kamen Rider 555 34,277 91,396 Bandai
321 PS2 Dragon Ball Z 2 (PlayStation 2 the Best) 34,097 Bandai
322 PS2 Taiko no Tatsujin: Doki! Shinkyoku Darake no Haru Matsuri 33,976 407,181 Namco
323 PS2 Ultraman Fighting Evolution 3 33,801 Banpresto
324 PS2 Memories Off Sorekara 33,613 Kid
325 PS2 BeatMania IIDX 7th Style 33,217 Konami
326 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 58: The Gekai 33,127 D3 Publisher
327 PS2 Winning Post 6 Maximum 2004 32,768 Koei
328 GBA Bokujou Monogatari: Mineral Town no Nakama Tachi 32,717 161,430 Victor Interactive Software
329 PS2 Pop'n Music 10 32,704 Konami
330 PS2 DRIV3R 32,675 Atari
331 PS2 True Crime: Streets of LA 32,566 Capcom
332 PSP Doko Demo Issyo: Toro to Ippai 32,494 SCE
333 PS2 Seven Samurai 20XX 32,431 Sammy
334 PS2 Gungrave OD 32,304 Red Entertainment
335 GC Pokemon Box: Ruby & Sapphire 32,071 231,704 Pokemon
336 PS2 Gunslinger Girl Vol. 1 32,047 Marvelous Entertainment
337 PS2 Michigan 31,667 Spike
338 PS2 Growlanser IV: Wayfarer of the Time 31,493 107,134 Atlus
339 GC Bokujou Monogatari: Wonderful Life 31,173 114,678 Marvelous Interactive
340 PS2 Konjiki no Gashbell!! Gekitou! Saikyou no Mamonotachi 31,133 Bandai
341 GBA Sonic Battle 31,058 60,213 Sega
342 PS2 Finding Nemo 31,052 48,263 Yuke's
343 PSP Eiyuu Densetsu Gagharv Trilogy: Shiroki Majo 30,719 Bandai
344 PS2 Tantei Jinguuji Saburo: Kind of Blue 30,333 WorkJam
345 PS2 Capcom Fighting Jam 30,080 Capcom
346 PS2 Tennis no Oji-Sama: Smash Hit 2 30,072 79,694 Konami
347 PS2 Onimusha Buraiden 29,778 97,944 Capcom
348 PSP Doko Demo Issyo 29,729 SCE
349 PS2 Riding Spirits 2 29,564 Spike
350 PS2 Uchuu Senkan Yamato: Iscandar he no Tsuioku 29,339 Bandai
351 PS2 Samurai Spirits Zero 29,267 SNK Playmore
352 PS2 Kiniro no Corda 29,152 Koei
353 GBA Mario Kart Advance 28,996 938,175 Nintendo
354 PS2 Angelique Etoile 28,867 Koei
355 PS2 Makai Senki Disgaea (PlayStation 2 the Best) 28,359 Nippon Ichi Software
356 GC Super Mario Sunshine 28,191 789,989 Nintendo
357 GC Momotarou Dentetsu 12 28,182 55,799 Hudson
358 PS2 J-League Winning Eleven Tactics 27,960 94,168 Konami
359 PS2 Derby Tsuku 3: Derby Uma o Tsukurou! 27,959 78,066 Sega
360 PS2 Panzer Front Ausf.B 27,950 Enterbrain
361 PS2 Derby Tsuku 4: Derby Uma o Tsukurou! 27,851 Sega
362 PS2 European Club Soccer: Winning Eleven Tactics 27,729 Konami
363 PS2 Simple 2000 Ultimate Series Vol. 21: Kenka Joutou! 27,286 D3 Publisher
364 PS2 Spectral Force: Radical Elements 27,265 Idea Factory
365 GBA Super Mario Advance 2 27,195 919,234 Nintendo
366 GC Donkey Konga 1+2 Pack 27,068 Nintendo
367 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Ultimate Vol. 13: Kurusou! Tansha King 26,932 80,262 D3 Publisher
368 PS2 Need for Speed Underground 2 26,864 Electronic Arts
369 GBA Ochaken Kururin ~ Honwaka Puzzle de Ho~ttoshiyou? 26,854 MTO
370 PS2 Hitman: Contracts 26,667 Eidos
371 GBA Wagamama * Fairy Mirumo de Pon! Yume no Kakera 26,639 Konami
372 PS2 The Sims 26,478 Electronic Arts
373 PS2 Prince of Persia: Jikan no Suna 26,116 SCE
374 PS Puyo Puyo Sun Ketteiban 26,003 84,784 Sega
375 PS2 Medal of Honor: Rising Sun 25,874 Electronic Arts
376 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 1: The Table Game 25,811 276,079 D3 Publisher
377 GBA Duel Masters 2: Kirifuda Shoubu Version 25,810 Takara
378 PS2 Futakoi 25,675 Media Works
379 PS2 Xenosaga Freaks 25,430 Namco
380 PS2 Shikigami no Shiro II 25,426 Taito
381 PS2 Fuuun Shinsengumi (PlayStation 2 the Best) 25,324 Genki
382 GBA Zettai Zetsumei: Denja Rasuji-San 25,278 110,015 Kids Station
383 GBA Shiren Monsters: Netsal 25,274 Chunsoft
384 PS2 EyeToy: FuriFuri Dance Tengoku 25,227 SCE
385 PS2 Gunslinger Girl Vol. 2 25,131 Marvelous Entertainment
386 GBA Boboboubo Boubobo: Bakutou Hajike Taisen 25,082 Hudson
387 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 43: The Saiban 25,020 D3 Publisher
388 PSP Kotoba no Puzzle Mojipittan Daijiten 24,903 Namco
389 PS2 Galaxy Angel: Moonlit Lovers 24,863 Broccoli
390 PS2 Kurogane no Houkou 2: Warship Commander 24,843 Koei
391 PS2 RockMan Power Battle Fighters 24,765 Capcom
392 PS2 Uchuu no Stellvia 24,676 Bandai
393 PS2 Remember 11: The Age of Infinity 24,508 Kid
394 GBA Kiss x Kiss: Seirei Gakuen 24,504 Bandai
395 PS2 Tennis no Oji-Sama: Rush & Dream! 24,481 Konami
396 PS2 Snow 24,385 NEC Interchannel
397 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 43: The Saiban 24,165 D3 Publisher
398 PS2 Saru! Get You! 2 (PlayStation 2 the Best) 24,066 167,835 SCE
399 PS2 Sinbad Adventure wa Eimoto Kanako Dedousesuka 23,993 Nihon Amusement Housou
400 PS2 Kunoichi 23,655 65,114 Sega
401 PS2 Hayarigami 23,165 Nippon Ichi Software
402 GC Dragon Ball Z 23,081 47,518 Bandai
403 PS2 WRC 3 23,061 Spike
404 GBA Duel Masters 3 22,781 Atlus
405 PS2 Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance (Konami Dendou Collection) 22,712 Konami
406 PS Black/Matrix 00 22,654 NEC Interchannel
407 PS2 NBA Live 2004 (EA Best Hits) 22,626 Electronic Arts
408 PS2 Simple 2000 Ultimate Series Vol. 16: Sengoku vs. Gendai 22,527 D3 Publisher
409 PSP Mahjong Kakutou Club 22,518 Konami
410 GBA Harry Potter to Azkaban no Shuujin 22,516 Electronic Arts
411 PS2 Harukanaru Toki no Naka de 3 22,496 Koei
412 PS2 CR Kamen Rider: Pachitte Chonmage Tasujin 5 22,490 Hack Berry
413 GBA Zettai Zetsumei: Denja Rasuji-San - Naki no Ikkai 22,328 Kids Station
414 PS2 Taisen Hot Gimmick: Cosplay-Jan 22,209 Psikyo
415 PS2 Wild Arms Alter Code: F 22,128 167,254 SCE
416 PS2 Crash Bandicoot 5 22,078 Vivendi Universal Games
417 PS2 Jak and Daxter II 22,023 SCE
418 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 51: The Senkan 22,007 D3 Publisher
419 PS2 Gunslinger Girl Vol. 3 21,903 Marvelous Entertainment
420 PS2 Bloody Roar 4 21,544 Hudson
421 PS2 Final Approach 21,438 Princess Soft
422 GBA PukuPuku Tennen Kairanban: Koi no Cupid Daisakusen 31,436 Marvelous Interactive
423 PS2 Hyper Street Fighter II: The Anniversary Edition 31,213 53,000 Capcom
424 PS2 NBA Live 2004 31,125 61,364 Electronic Arts
425 PS2 Recca no Honoo: Final Burning 21,105 Konami
426 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 50: The Daibijin 31,039 D3 Publisher
427 PS2 Digimon Battle Chronicle 30,748 Bandai
428 PS2 K-1 World Grand Prix 2003 20,634 60,865 Konami
429 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 44: The Hajimete no RPG 20,633 D3 Publisher
430 PS2 Taiko no Tatsujin: Tatakon de Dodon ga Don 20,537 743,334 Namco
431 PS2 Raimuiro Senkitan * Jun 20,517 Kadokawa Shoten
432 PSP Armored Core: Formula Front 20,443 From Software
433 PS2 Godzilla Kaijuu Dairansen: Chikyuu Saishuu Kessen 20,293 Atari
434 GC Baten Kaitos 20,251 108,615 Namco
435 DS Puyo Puyo Fever 20,098 Sega
436 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 55: The Catfight: Joneko Densetsu 20,022 D3 Publisher
437 PS2 SSX 3 20,013 33,313 Electronic Arts
438 GBA Mermaid Melody: Pichi Pichi Picchi Pichi Pichitto Live Start 19,993 Konami
439 PS2 CR Pachinko Yellow Cab: Pachitte Chonmage Tatsujin 6 19,853 Hack Berry
440 GC Finding Nemo 19,754 34,276 Yuke's
441 PS2 Genso Suikoden III (Konami Dendou Collection) 19,693 Konami
442 PS2 Kuon 19,603 From Software
443 GC Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 10 Chou Ketteiban 19,524 44,410 Konami
444 GC 007: Everything or Nothing 19,432 Electronic Arts
445 PS2 Slotter UP Core Alpha 19,431 33,025 Dorart
446 GC 1080: Silver Storm 19,417 Nintendo
447 PS2 Sanyo Pachinko Paradise 10 19,342 Irem Software Engineering
448 PS2 Bomberman Kart DX 19,326 Hudson
449 PS SuperLite 1500 Series: The Tetris 19,324 503,058 Success
450 PS2 Battle Gear 3 19,300 30,049 Taito
451 PS2 Final Fantasy X-2 19,210 1,960,937 Square
452 GBA Simple 2960 Tomodachi Series Vol. 4: The Trump 19,151 22,522 D3 Publisher
453 PS2 Meine Liebe: Yuubinaru Kioku 18,979 Konami
454 PS2 Kaiketsu Zorori: Mezase! Itazura King 18,905 Bandai
455 PS2 Shin Sangoku Musou 3 18,894 1,197,349 Koei
456 GBA Card Captor Sakura: Sakura Card-hen Sakura Card to Tomodachi 18,778 MTO
457 DS Mr. Driller Drill Spirits 18,752 Namco
458 PS2 Castlevania 18,696 110,740 Konami
459 PS2 Final Fantasy XI Girade no Genei All-In-One Pack 2003 18,683 50,865 Square Enix
460 GC RockMan X Command Mission 18,599 Capcom
461 PS2 Zoids Struggle 18,587 Tomy
462 PS2 Metal Slug 4 18,567 SNK Playmore
463 GC Kururin Squash! 18,562 Nintendo
464 PS2 AirForce Delta: Blue Wing Knights 18,458 Konami
465 PS2 Rakugaki Oukoku 2 18,423 Taito
466 PS2 Tsuki wa Higashi ni Ha wa Nishi na: Operation Sanctuary 18,403 Alchemist
467 PS2 Ratchet & Clank 2 (PlayStation 2 the Best) 18,323 SCE
468 PS2 Monochrome 18,320 Kid
469 PS2 Tim Burton's The Nightmare Before Christmas: Boogy no Gyakushuu 18,301 Capcom
470 PS2 Meitantei Conan: Daiei Teikoku no Isan 18,299 Bandai
471 PS2 Freedom Fighters 18,017 Electronic Arts
472 PS2 Saiyuki Reload 17,795 Bandai
473 PS2 Espgaluda 17,755 Arika
474 PS2 Tetsujin 28-Go 17,723 Bandai
475 GBA Wagamama * Fairy Milmo de Pon! 17,675 Konami
476 PS2 BeatMania IIDX 8th Style 17,530 Konami
477 PS2 Tennis no Oji-Sama: Love of Prince - Sweet/Bitter 17,473 Konami
478 GC Puyo Pop Fever 17,436 Sega
479 GBA SD Gundam Force 17,226 Bandai
480 PS2 Sega Ages 2500 Series Vol. 16: Virtua Fighter 2 17,217 Sega
481 PS2 Zwei!! 17,145 Taito
482 PS2 Yu-Gi-Oh! Capsule Monster Coliseum 17,080 Konami
483 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 47: The Kassen Gekigahara 17,065 D3 Publisher
484 GC Mario Golf: Family Tour 17,061 192,802 Nintendo
485 PS2 Momotarou Dentetsu 11 (Hudson the Best) 16,858 Hudson
486 PS2 Star Wars: Battlefront 16,739 Electronic Arts
487 PSP Vampire Chronicle: The Chaos Tower 16,710 Capcom
488 PS2 Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2003 16,620 Capcom
489 GC Korokke! Ban-Ou no Kiki o Sukue 16,615 Konami
490 PS2 Kamen Rider: Seigi no Keifu 16,584 94,432 Banpresto
491 GBA Mr. Incredible 16,492 D3 Publisher
492 PS2 Nobunaga no Yabou: Soutensoku with Power-Up Kit 16,483 26,828 Koei
493 PS2 Sega Ages 2500 Vol. 6: Ichini no Tant-R to Bonanza Bros. 16,481 3D Ages
494 GBA Riviera: Yakusoku no Chi 16,467 Sting
495 GBA Kaiketsu Zorori to Mahou no Yuuenchi 16,387 Bandai
496 PS2 Katamari Damacy (PlayStation 2 the Best) 16,264 Namco
497 PS2 Harry Potter to Azkaban no Shuujin 16,239 Electronic Arts
498 PS2 Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty (Konami Dendou Collection) 16,192 Konami
499 PS2 Simple 2000 Series Vol. 63: The Suieitaikai 16,184 D3 Publisher
500 PS2 Nishikaze no Kyoushikyouku 16,083 Marvelous InteractiveNot sure about you, but these figures honestly exceeds my expectations. Given the circumstances Nazo no Murasamejō was in (let's not forget the context), the GBA title sold―I would say―decent if not relatively well for what it was. Couple in the original Nazo no Murasamejō numbers (not sure how much, but I'm confident it sold more than the GBA counterpart), and you pretty much get an idea of how successful Nazo no Murasamejō is sales-wise.
Neckbeard Torterra
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Dude.. I know how you feel. Some fans are just better composers than the professionals at times. Miku Hatsuné for instance.. all the songs that are released on her records are fan made, but if chosen by the vocaloid company for an album, you're able to give up those rights.
...but i have no clue if theres pay involved.
I might help a little. If I do, I'll probably go the stupid way and just do Bablefish and try to piece it together (I can usually get the subject that way). I know someone whio knows Japanese, so I might ask for his help on a few.▲ ▲
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Okay, this is probably the coolest thing I've seen all day.Also, I'm definately going to need help with this... It took me nearly an hour to read two pages and there are probably close to 100 pages altogether.
It really doesn't, but there are a lot of fans who want to see more female characters.
Except all the fighter themes were the main Punch-Out melody to a different musical style.
Well, if you think about it, he added him based on some kind of popularity. The character was added because a lot of people bought the game. In some way, that is popularity.
Sakurai has a big belief on adding characters people know. This is why he has been opposed to adding characters from Japanese only games. He didn't want to add him if people didn't know who he was. Since the GBA game sold well enough, it means enough people knew more about Pit. Thus, the move would make more sence rather then "who?"
If Takamaru's game ever comes on the VC in America, expect him to be playable.
It sold about 70,000 in Japan.
Been a while since I've seen you.
...You don't know me, I'd just been lurking.
Anyway, Geno (and Roy at this point) don't deserve playability. Roy's chance of returning left with his exclusion from Brawl, and Geno simply has no significance to Square Enix OR the Mario series.
Fatmanonice
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Well, in this case, Sakurai said it would be the major thing that would affect his decision in whether or not to let him in. To Sakurai, it seems to be more important to him whether or not the character is decently known than not whether or not they are particulary liked. (So far the only people that has gone against this is Game and Watch and Roy.) Hmm... I guess I'll look over the sales and see how well it comes to the other GBA classic titles released that year.
Add in: Ladies and Gentleman... I have the results... Removing all the third party titles, this is what it looks like from most sales to least in the Famicom series:
1. Super Mario Bros
2. Super Mario Bros 2
3. Ice Climber
4. Link's Adventure
5. Dr. Mario
6. Excitebike
7. Mario Bros
8. Tantei Club Part I
9. Wrecking Crew
10. Tantei Club Part II
11. Balloon Fight
12. Mystery of Murasame Castle
13. Metroid
14. Kid Icarus
Mystery of Murasame Castle beat Kid Icarus by about four thousand copies to boot. Third to last, granted but if Pit can get it simply by being dead last...
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Pfft, I still play Melee so no u. <3
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Geno definitely is an obscure character with no popularity or even people knowing about his existence outside of message boards (maybe he's only known of in SMASH message boards) and Square Enix is greedy enough that it won't ever happen, but Roy *could* come back. If there is no new Fire Emblem Lord to put in for marketing purposes by SSB4 than Roy could get in. It's a slim chance but he definitely isn't as unlikely as Geno.
ScoobyCafe
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Let me just state that sales doesn't always equate to popularity.
e.g. Cult films may not have mainstream success, but they have followings that tend to become bigger over time. Underground hip-hop is popular despite not selling nearly anything what mainstream hip-hop makes. etc. I'm basically saying that there are exceptions.
Truth be told, I'm starting to dismiss the "Japan-only" thing, partially because some characters invalidates it, but also because it's down right silly. Putting such superficial limitations on a Nintendo "All-Star" title is just... dumb―makes me wish/hope some Capcom developer makes SSB4.
But it's true that Sakurai tends to add characters people know nowadays. He does makes exceptions, though.
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@Fatmanonice: I would never had thought that Nazo no Murasamejō would outsell Metroid and Kid Icarus on release given it's history. That's saying something. Wow
Fatmanonice
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I've already proven this statement horrifically wrong many times before so there's really no point in me doing it again. Don't try me, I can easily prove you wrong. Also, considering how Super Mario RPG is the second best selling third party VC game is all four major regions (Japan, Europe, North America, and Australia) and has been in the top ten each month since its release, I think it's safe to say that a decent number of people at least know who he is.
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Was'nt there some hint about Travis Touchdown being in the next one? I think the creator said something like he'll lok forward to Travis Touchdown playing with Link. I may be wrong...
ScoobyCafe
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http://kotaku.com/5310759/no-more-heroes-designer-wants-travis-touchdown-in-next-smash-bros
It could happen. I love NMH, but the crazy stuff that happens in that game is perhaps even more crazier than what we see in MGS, and that might hinder his chances somewhat.
Still, it could happen. I wouldn't mind.
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Sales on the VC were good, but games on the VC don't sell as well as console games, so by comparison SMRPG did well but it still didn't reach a lot of people. Besides, even if some people recognize him, aren't many more going to recognize and want characters like Bowser Jr. and Paper Mario, who have actually been in multiple games?Fatmanonice said:
Neckbeard Torterra
Smash Journeyman
Does anyone want to see a Nintendo Vs Capcom before ssb4?
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ScoobyCafe
Smash Journeyman
I actually want a SSB DS before we get a SSB4. We'd get more characters that way. ;D
I would definitely want to see a Nintendo Vs Capcom, though. No doubt.
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I know that the two statements seem to contradict each other, and SMRPG did reach a good amount of people I guess, but I'm just saying that on VC games don't sell quite as well and it doesn't mean as much that SMRPG did well in comparison to other VC games. It never sold too well when it was originally released as well.
Fatmanonice
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Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars (1.47 million in Japan) *cough* That's not including the other regions or the VC sales. In comparison, Kid Icarus sold about 1.09 million and Metroid sold one million when they were first released.
ScoobyCafe
Smash Journeyman
Why doesn't it mean much? You know what, no, you're right. I guess S&P success on the VC didn't mean much either. I mean, yeah it's getting a sequel, but that doesn't mean much.
And why are you taking away from SMRPGs' success, belittling it even?
Which means...?
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
Welcome to my world.
I've been hearing stuff like this since 2005. "Nobody played it." "Hardly anyone liked it." "Nobody wants to see a sequel." "It'll never be on the Virtual Console." Blah, blah, blah. If anything, one of the big reasons I'm still supporting Geno is because I believe, in Nintendo's whole library, it's probably one of the games most deserving of a true sequel. Punch Out got one. Sin and Punishment is getting one. Earthbound got one. Chrono Trigger got a sequel and was remade twice. Miyamoto made it apparent that a Kid Icarus sequel will come eventually. Why not SMRPG? I mean, if there are people like me and McSnapple who still want to see Geno make a comeback 13 years after his original game was released then the game obviously did something right. If music videos with SMRPG material can reach close to 2 million views, then the game obviously had some lasting appeal, didn't it? If the game was in the top five most requested VC games basically world wide until it was released and then has stayed in the top ten since it was released then people have to had liked/were interested in it. Still, it's an on-going fight for us Geno/SMRPG fans but we hope to win evenutally.
Neckbeard Torterra
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OH GOD YES PLEASE!
It should run on the n64 engine.. Infact it should be SSB1 but with an updated roster and attacks. Upon seeing who people like in this game would determine who makes the SSB4 cut. Or something
OK, I looked though a few. All of these are on page 15. Also, remember that I'm guessing since the translation sucks.
RO's
He seems to be saying how he liked the game, but there is never enough time (or he waste a lot of it). A lot of work at the University. Sakurai says how he wants people to enjoy the game, but is sorry not everyone has a lot of time.
Mr. Taka 4
Except that he mentioned Nintendo's puzzle games, I have no idea what he's talking about.
MN さん MN's
Talks about him and his friends playing Smash and how he never has enough time due to school. Sakurai mentions that when he plays it, the time seems to tick away.
Mr. SHIKUYA
He mentiones how he's played the game A LOT and how he loves the good and some of the bad). Something about a technique. What Sakurai said would make scene if I knew what this "best technique" was.
TK さん TK's
Says his brother uses Luigi, his sister uses Kirby, and he uses Yoshi. I believe he wants the characters to be more balanced (specially Yoshi). [I might be wrong about the balance. He might also be saying he likes the characters and they all fight well]. He really wants a second one and tells Sakurai to add courses along with characters. Sakurai agrees.
ぽけもんまにあ さん It only has to be solved or preservation (what?)
He talks about this mode he made up called "survival" I think the goal is to beat a Lv 9 by as many lives as you can (no items, 99 lives). His record is 21 lives with Kirby. What Sakurai said may be important, but I'm not sure.
ＭＩＬＫ さん Mr. MILK
He mentions Square and Nintendo working together on Mario RPG and said Nintendo should work with other companies for Smash bros. He mentions a game from Sega he's like to see in. From Nintendo, he wants Marth. He would also like to see a story mode. Sakurai isn't very clear. He mentions the reputation of Square and Nintendo. He does say something important though.
Nothing else really vital. KK さん Mr. KK may be important
RO's
He seems to be saying how he liked the game, but there is never enough time (or he waste a lot of it). A lot of work at the University. Sakurai says how he wants people to enjoy the game, but is sorry not everyone has a lot of time.
Mr. Taka 4
Except that he mentioned Nintendo's puzzle games, I have no idea what he's talking about.
MN さん MN's
Talks about him and his friends playing Smash and how he never has enough time due to school. Sakurai mentions that when he plays it, the time seems to tick away.
Mr. SHIKUYA
He mentiones how he's played the game A LOT and how he loves the good and some of the bad). Something about a technique. What Sakurai said would make scene if I knew what this "best technique" was.
TK さん TK's
Says his brother uses Luigi, his sister uses Kirby, and he uses Yoshi. I believe he wants the characters to be more balanced (specially Yoshi). [I might be wrong about the balance. He might also be saying he likes the characters and they all fight well]. He really wants a second one and tells Sakurai to add courses along with characters. Sakurai agrees.
ぽけもんまにあ さん It only has to be solved or preservation (what?)
He talks about this mode he made up called "survival" I think the goal is to beat a Lv 9 by as many lives as you can (no items, 99 lives). His record is 21 lives with Kirby. What Sakurai said may be important, but I'm not sure.
ＭＩＬＫ さん Mr. MILK
He mentions Square and Nintendo working together on Mario RPG and said Nintendo should work with other companies for Smash bros. He mentions a game from Sega he's like to see in. From Nintendo, he wants Marth. He would also like to see a story mode. Sakurai isn't very clear. He mentions the reputation of Square and Nintendo. He does say something important though.
Nothing else really vital. KK さん Mr. KK may be important
Pieman0920
Smash Master
Remember Fatman, SMRPG =! Geno. Just because SMRPG sells well, doesn't mean Geno automatically profits from it. The game may be a big seller on the VC (heck, its one of the few games I got from it) but it already does have three characters from it, so its well represented as it is.
Also SMRPG has a sequel...its Paper Mario/M&L.
ScoobyCafe
Smash Journeyman
Welcome to my world.
It almost seem as if people are blissfully ignorant of just how popular SMRPG is, and the impact it had on the Mario series. I've seen petitions that well over 20,000 fans have signed. I've seen fan-made videos with millions of views. I've heard of a plethora of e-mails being sent to Nintendo about a remake. Mother is practically the only other game/series which has such support.
SMRPG kick-started the Mario RPG series, one of the most successful series in gaming. It's quite possibly the longest lasting sub series in the Mario series.
It's been 13 years since Super Mario RPG was released―little did anyone know, 13 years later, it's still consider one of the best Mario games out there. A true classic, one which I believe is more than deserving for a remake.
I think the DS Lite can handle N64 graphics quite well, so yeah. I can easily see characters like Starfy and Andy making it in, which opens up the doors for more characters for SSB4 who probably wouldn't make it in before them. Not to mention another 3rd paty character. It'd be great. ;D
Eh, Geno does benefit from SMRPGs' success one way or another. And you saying SMRPG is "well represented" is subjective talk. There's no invisible number that says a franchise will get this many characters and so forth.Remember Fatman, SMRPG =! Geno. Just because SMRPG sells well, doesn't mean Geno automatically profits from it. The game may be a big seller on the VC (heck, its one of the few games I got from it) but it already does have three characters from it, so its well represented as it is.
Also SMRPG has a sequel...its Paper Mario/M&L.
And Paper Mario is more of a spiritual successor than it is a true sequel. ;P
Fatmanonice
Banned via Warnings
As I've said in the past, there's still no content in Brawl except for Peach's frying pan and the mention in the chronicle. That's it. Also, if SMRPG is going to have more content it has to be big. Neither company is going to bother with each other for a few stickers, a trophy, an assist trophy, etc.Remember Fatman, SMRPG =! Geno. Just because SMRPG sells well, doesn't mean Geno automatically profits from it. The game may be a big seller on the VC (heck, its one of the few games I got from it) but it already does have three characters from it, so its well represented as it is.
Also SMRPG has a sequel...its Paper Mario/M&L.
*throws a pie at pieman* Paper Mario is not a true sequel to SMRPG and neither are the Mario and Luigi games based on their playstyles and how they don't have any of the characters from the old games, not even minor ones. There's nothing that truely ties those games together aside from a few basic things. Basically the only thing that's been retained is the collecting of seven stars and Mario RPGs weird sense of humor.
Pieman0920
Smash Master
Actually, there was a Japanese magazine that stated that Mario's FS was based on his attacks in SMRPG...Though they of course are not aesthetically perfect matches. Anyways, the fact that any representation of SMRPG would have to be big, lest it not be bothered with, is one of the larger killing points for any of its content to be included. For one, there are more deserving SE games that should be covered first, and secondly, there are even more important Mario games that never really got much representation in Smash. (I'm looking at you SMB3...Also Galaxy, but that's acceptable for now) Heck, why not represent more of Super Paper Mario. That game sold more than SMRPG, is newer, and isn't third party. Given that Smash tends to favor the newer games within a series most of the time, I'd say that its much more likely that the more recent game gets represented before a older one.
And while there is no true sequel for the avid fan of SMRPG, all three of the M&L games, as well as PM2 have been "Mario RPGs" in Japan. While the style and story hasn't been fully retained, they are still sequels in a sense, given their systems that all emphasize timed attacks. Quite frankly though, I will say that it seems that characters in these games mostly never return...heck, its quite a feat that Fawful has done as well as he has, given that no other recurring Beanbean character to the best of my knowledge.
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