Official MBR 2010 NTSC Tier List

[KirbyKaze]

TBH 90%+ of the players in this thread care about numbers way too much

Just play the game like seriously lol

 

[Divinokage]

You didn't beat Darkrain.

Perhaps you should learn to read a little. I was just saying I have the skill to have a good chance to beat a player outside of the top 5.

It means they are playing the matchup wrong

Seriously, do you really manage to defeat S2J / Haxx / Mango Falcon in more than like the 5% of matches where you get really lucky with techreads and stuff (blah techreads are not really luck blah)? If so I am mad impressed.

If that's what people see in my skill level for real then that's really funny. That would mean I'll forever be completely underestimated. But ya only 5% you say.. I'd say I can win minimum 30% for sure if not 40. That matchup is not impossible, it's basically the first one in shield will get ****ed up. There's no falcons or marths that is capable to own me repeatedly, it's impossible.

 

[Xyzz]

I think you're really good (somewhere in that "Axe, S2J, Shroomed, ..."-tier), I just always thought Falcon really poops on Ganon (:

 

[RFrizzle]

3-0
10rains

 

[Gea]

I think you're really good (somewhere in that "Axe, S2J, Shroomed, ..."-tier), I just always thought Falcon really poops on Ganon (:

90-10

Spoiler

chars

 

[MaskedMarth]

Perhaps you should learn to read a little. I was just saying I have the skill to have a good chance to beat a player outside of the top 5.

I can read fine--just wanted to see how you'd reply.

I'd love to see you try Darkrain again.

 

[Deleted member]

TBH 90%+ of the players in this thread care about numbers way too much

Just play the game like seriously lol

no. i want to quantify everything.

link vs jigglypuff is a 63-37 MU

whatever that means

 

[Grim Tuesday]

It means that in 37 matches, link will win 63 times.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Mow why aren't you on aim

 

[Divinokage]

I think you're really good (somewhere in that "Axe, S2J, Shroomed, ..."-tier), I just always thought Falcon really poops on Ganon (:

It's not as bad as the spacies nor Sheik and anyhow the first one to be off-stage as well, dies 100% of the time. There's simply no way to miss.. especially with Ganon who can cover a ****ton of area with his huge hitboxes. If you really are getting owned then it means you weren't precise enough or your DI wasn't good most of the time. If you can DI out of Falcon's or even Marth's combo which is realistically doable everytime then you'll be fine because you'll make him have to reset the situation where you can have an opportunity to hit him back and gain momentum.

 

[KirbyKaze]

If Ganon loses badly to Falcon (I think he does, but I don't feel like arguing with Kage) then it's mostly to do with a disparity in quality of their first hit games, rather than their punishment games.

They both hit each other pretty hard.

 

[Deleted member]

If Ganon loses badly to Falcon (I think he does, but I don't feel like arguing with Kage) then it's mostly to do with a disparity in quality of their first hit games, rather than their punishment games.

They both hit each other pretty hard.

on FD yeah, on DL64 probably. on BF/FoD not so much. on YS ganon probably wins.

i think falcon wins too but not "badly". our stage list is boring kinda.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Who wins on PokeFloats?

 

[TheCrimsonBlur]

Ganon v Falcon is hella fun to play on Termina Bay

 

[odinNJ]

If falcon has room to maneouver and harass ganon with nair, its strongly in his favor. If the blastboxes are stupidly small (YS) id say its even/maybe slight advantage ganon.

If its FoD ganon wins hands down because of the platforms automatically antiairing falcon and ganons ftilt making defense easy.

 

[Gea]

Their match on Brinstar was pretty legit. (Kage and Darkrain, that is)

 

[Kink-Link5]

What prevents every stage from being legal/neutral in a ditto.

Half-serious question

 

[Gea]

Character is supposed to not play a factor in the legality of the stagelist.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Fox dittos Hyrule are only marginally less stupid than Fox <other character> on Hyrule

 

[john!]

temple fox dittos are ***** awesome

i call it "laser tag"

 

[Deleted member]

Fox dittos Hyrule are only marginally less stupid than Fox <other character> on Hyrule

mewtwo dittos on hyrule

no damage

no kills

ever

 

[KirbyKaze]

Ok but basically as you can see a lot of the stages devolve into stupid gameplay that tends to abuse features of the level to create infinite runaway, certain kinds of stale-mating, and so forth more than the combat interactions on flatland with certain kinds of platform interference that we've collectively decided (somewhat arbitrarily) is the true measure of skill in this game.

 

[Deleted member]

you're just mad cause you suck at ice climber dittos on brinstar depths.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Mow, I will ******* you in ICs dittos on Brinstar Depths

 

[Deleted member]

i'm a genius @ making this game unplayable.

at the very least it will be glorious to record.

edit: my favorite is marth 4 player FFA on YS with bombs on very high. wlet's do one and put it on youtube.

 

[KirbyKaze]

You, me, PP, and Cactuar should do that

 

[Deleted member]

i won the one with ken azen and m2k in 2006

no one even wanted to play it but azen

i think thats when jason discovered edge camping

hindsight 20/20 lol

edit: also pressing buttons with kevin is depressing and can only end in alcohol.

 

[KirbyKaze]

we should add alcohol to this

 

[Twinkles]

combo breaker

 

[Strong Badam]

Alcohol sounds fun.

 

[Deleted member]

i'm pretty sure kevin is an alcoholic.

he's probably drinking right now.

actually i know he's drinking right now so

basically this post makes me an ******* LOL

 

[odinNJ]

Ive always been a fan of marth free for alls on temple, its called "Fair to the finish"

 

[KirbyKaze]

I like how Twinkles posted combo breaker and we're just continuing the conversation as if he's not even here

Kevin is an alcoholic? Can't say I'm too surprised

 

[Deleted member]

Ive always been a fan of marth free for alls on temple, its called "Fair to the finish"

you mean "hold up the entire match and tech well and laugh"?

 

[Twinkles]

i like how twinkles posted combo breaker and we're just continuing the conversation as if he's not even here

kevin is an alcoholic? Can't say i'm too surprised

;_;

10;_;

 

[Habefiet]

Young Link FFAs on Temple make you an objectively worse person upon completion.

 

[Anand]

What prevents every stage from being legal/neutral in a ditto.

Half-serious question

This also couldn't happen in our current counterpicking system, because stage is picked before character. Even for the first game, when characters are picked first, are you saying to strike from all the stages? That takes so long!

 

[KirbyKaze]

;_;

10;_;

This is Melee son

We were doing consecutive hits

not combos

STEP UP YO GAME

 

[Deleted member]

seriously though mewtwo dittos on hhyrule temple witout a timer.

it's like strictly a test of willpower

 

[odinNJ]

you mean "hold up the entire match and tech well and laugh"?

This post confuses me, but I get the gist.
And no, that would be falcon ffas on temple, also known as fight club