Deathcarter
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Don't worry Shadowlink. You at least have one person (not from the Sonic forums) who does not buy into the sucky priority crap Sonic always seems to attract.
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Your THAT surprised by my reply? But anyhow, Sonic does not have much priority on most of his moves, but people don't realize that a few key moves of his don't suffer from this problem:blargh *falls over*
meh its annoying thoug...
Its like when people went WOMG Link's ^B is soooooo hard.
Seriously its been over 6 months its not that hard to get things straight.
Umm... I don't see Marth and he's definitely top 11, but nice idea. Marth>FalcoI don't think that we should all try to tackle an entire tier-list at once. Ordering 30-something characters all at the same time is really tricky, so I tried to just make a high-tier list and concentrate on my choices.
MK
Snake
G&W
ROB
Falco
MK: Speed, priority, and a good recovery. He is unstoppable in the right hands.
Snake: Very strong, but his recovery is stopping him from getting the top spot. He also can get punished and chaingrabbed by the lighter chars. He might fall a few spots if everybody finds out how to abuse his weaknessess. But for now he remains a heavy, powerful character with cannot be ignored. Furthermore, he seems to counter MK.
G&W: A killing machine. He may be one of the lightest characters in the game, but it doesn't matter how heavy you are when your oponent is face down in the dirt. With disjointed hit-boxes, the nastiest turtle you've ever seen, edgeguarding bacon, and a projectile-absorbing bucket. This guy should be feared.
ROB: The classic camper. This guy has a 5-second recovery, a wicked aerial game, and 2 projectiles. When you add all of that together, you get is an edguarding demon who pwns you in the air and weighs as much as a hippo. However, this WALL-E has a tricky time killing people, so it stops him from reaching the top.
Falco: Lasers, speed, a reflector, and the meteor-smash everybody hates. Falco is a really nasty offensive beast who can punish people who aren't careful when the get back to the stage. His reflector can counter projectiles and hurt approaches while his laser lets him annoy at a distance. This bird has a nasty chink in his armour though, in the form of his recovery. To put it bluntly; it sucks.
Characters that might make it:
Diddy Kong
Pikachu
Dedede
Donkey Kong
Toon Link
Wario
Fthrow has its uses too. you can set up for a Fair/uair and aid in juggling.I'ma jump in and answer that question.
I'd say low tier. Despite having average enough tourney results, people see him as a useless character, probably because such people are still living in the ages of when brawl first came out and are still 'omg sonic no priority blaaaargh'
Grabs are important too. D-throw leads into real tech-chases, u-air's good to start juggling characters at low percents, b-throw can kill from the side of FD at about the 150% mark. F-throw's the only screwy one.
I personally believe Sonic deserves bottom of mid
Edit : Tenki your avatar is beautiful.
She's there because one person placed 2nd with her. I think it was just that.You may have a point there. For Jigglypuff at least.
D: Peach; Sonic, Pikachu, Lucas, Ness, Zelda, Toon Link, Ike, Jigglypuff, Samus, Bowser, Pokémon Trainer, Luigi
Jigglypuff has the best tournament outings of the percieved bottom tiers (these are the non-detailed July 31 rankings) so she might make it into the bottom of low tier. She probably won't go higher though because of bad matchups.
Same here, I would like to know myself.Can someone please explain to me why Lucas is in low. From what I've seen of him his aerials are fast, f-smash is quick while u-smash can kill at ridiculously low % if u can pull it off, his tilts seem solid, he has a decent projectile and he has multiple options for recovery.
Crap grab range, hard to lead into grabs, and terrible game too far off the ledge. If you misstime an airdodge then one of your climbers will get hit, and your recovery just got olimar level..what about the IC's? they are monsters in the grab department and can rack up free damage with those cg's. they are gonna be a higher tier in the future.
I thought only the tall characters can force the jump break. A lot of the taller characters are lower tier, except Snake, but Wario can duck Snake's grab and, like he can against any character, land his dairs behind the opponent.True but most characters still get a free smash off of release. Then again, I dont see Wario dropping a huge amount in the tiers and if anything his grab release punishment is worse. ZSS and Yoshi can infinite him and most people get a free smash/aerial. Either bump Ness and Lucas, or drop Wario people! Wario's overall awesomeness will keep him high , but he's no longer high tier because of it.
She's also got a sick edgeguarding game in her WoP, the best aerial maneuverability in the game, low percent kills with rest, one of the best recoveries, a nasty air game, and combo ability. Yup, she's the worst.lol Chudat made a single character jump six spots on the melee tier list... and besides... the worst character in brawl is jiggles by far. no attack range. no priority. no speed. crappy b moves, and a non existen up b.
Do you have any reasons for naming these characters is it really only opinion based?IMO people who should be looked at more.
G&W
Yoshi
Link
TL
Zamus
Wario
Snake - should he really be 2nd/first?
I can see a reason for Wario. Two Infinites, and Several free Smashes/Airs/Other stuff on releaseI don't know why we should look closer at G&W or Wario...
These are reasons why Wario is great but not why we need to look closer at him. After all, everybody knows, that these are great techsfor WI can see a reason for Wario. Two Infinites, and Several free Smashes/Airs/Other stuff on release
I can see a reason for Wario. Two Infinites, and Several free Smashes/Airs/Other stuff on release
Im so considering sigging this. Seriously.These are reasons why Wario is great but not why we need to look closer at him. After all, everybody knows, that these are great techsfor W
I don't know about Luigi... I think the only things he has going for him are a bit combo ability, his amazing recovery and his firejumppunch.dont forget about luigi. i think he is very underrated.
i dont see TLink that low, he has one of the best projectile games, and a good recovery.My version of Popsofctown's list:
Mid:
Pikachu
Lucario
Zelda/Sheik
Pit
Ice Climbers
Diddy Kong
Wolf
Peach
Fox
Toon Link
Zero Suit Samus
Luigi
Lucas
Jigglypuff
Ness
Mario
Yoshi
Bowser
Sonic
Pokemon Trainer