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All your "upper mids" belong in high tier....
Everyone wants him down because the only very significant changes from Ankoku's (I hope I spelled that right) ranking of tournament results and the tier list is Bowser is 10 higher on the tier list then on the other one (Thanks to GimpyFish, I can only assume), and Peach is 10 lower on the tier list.
lol I went around to the other boards and they're like "yeah, I like where my character is." or "Oh, well, we should be 1-2 spots higher/lower, but the matchup is a little better for them, and they have better tourney results."
It probably is, I don't know all that much about Bowser besides GimpyFish plays him.
i agree, bowser higher than mario and peach? wtf, i love bowser and all, but he really isnt that good.
I for one think MK and Snake ought to share a tier, but no one else. This is why: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=165954
WIth the exception of Yoshi (don't let them influence you!), this is the best tier list I have seen.
Yet there are some that think this character is going nowhere.
I agree with Snowstalker, I think Yoshi should be in mid mid or low mid, not where he put him in the tier for fear of being flamed.
You are talking about the rankings list, that isn't a tier list.
I personally think he is fine where he's at.
well the rankings list was their rationale for putting Dedede high, he has a much more mixed bag of matchups than marth.
Seriously, Peach should be higher in the middle tier list. I mean zelda? I know she's got ALOT of buffs in brawl, But peach has advantages over zelda. Peach's D-smash Has way more priority over Zelda And her F-smash is officially avoidable to everybody if u press up (jump) as soon as she performs it. Peach's Toad deal's with zelda's dins fire. And with peach camping with her turnips, zelda wont have the pleasure of using din's fire .Alot of characters have a hard time approaching zelda, but with peach's floating, she has the best chances of approaching zelda out of all the middle tiers. And seriously, Peach>Zelda when it comes to close combat. As i said before, Peach's down-smash has priority over all of zelda's smashes. It great to take zelda off gaurd. Zelda's combat lacks range where as peach's f-smash (especially her golf club) has enough distance to avoid her standard "A" shock and Nayru's Love.
Doesn't make up for the poor KO power. While Zelda's on her other hand is an excellent killer because it sends them at low angle.
You'd be surprised at how often people fail to SDI out of it. It's like oh.. I got hit, I better SDI but when you input it, it's too late. Zelda doesn't really need her forward smash though. Up and down smash are better killers.
Camping wouldn't work well against Naryu's love and Din's Fire is a much better projectile than turnips. Turnips can be caught and used against you and can't be thrown that far. Din's Fire can hit pretty much anywhere on the basic stages.
Can't air dodge while floating, vulnerable to din's fire. I wouldn't want to approach that way. Good Zelda's will angle Din's fire to the ground so if you hit her while she's using it, it explodes on you.
It has more priority but it'll never kill. Get hit with Zelda's at a high percentage and you're gone. Especially with Peach's poor vertical recovery. Zelda's down tilt is nasty too. If Peach is floating right in her face then Zelda will have problems since her down tilt and smash will no longer work. Zelda should do her best with Din's Fire to prevent her from getting that close while floating.
Too bad you only have a 1/3 chance of using it.
They probably aren't that good then. Zelda can be a hell of an opponent to fight, especially one that's good at landing lighting kicks at every opening.
Not yet .
Yes! Somebody who understands the strength in peach's aerials! You got it spot on! Zelda Really is one of peach's best matches. And on another note, Zelda has less defense than peach and she k.o's at more lower percentages than peach. So killing potntial isn't really an argument when peach is fighting zelda. Her fair kills zelda at 80-90% at the lowest. And her bair around 100%. Zelda's recovery is where she fails on. She can only point faeroe's wind in one direction. And it leaves her wide open if she does'nt aim for the ledge. I've seen plenty times when zelda's close to the stage but not close enough so she's forced to use faeroes's wind and leave herself wide open for attack from an aerial or up-smash. And yes i agree with gantrain. Zelda is one of peach's best matches.
