Official Brawl Tier Discussion (OP Updated)

[TehBo49]

if you are playing anyone even remotely good, big characters can't do a thing.

DDD, ROB, & DK beg to differ.

 

[Tim_The_Enchanter]

Also Snake is technically a heavy-weight, isn't he?

 

[Dpete]

Also Snake is technically a heavy-weight, isn't he?

Very much so. I think he's like Top5 in terms of heaviness.

 

[TehBo49]

He isn't really a "big" character though. Btw he's 3rd heaviest under Bowser & DK.

 

[MarKO X]

He isn't really a "big" character though. Btw he's 3rd heaviest under Bowser & DK.

If this info is correct, Snake is 183 pounds and stands at 5'11". I got it from here uploads.ungrounded.net/109000/109439_TraliorDone4.swf via google.com

Is that big, middle, or small? Sounds really middlewight to me... a mistake by Nintendo, no? And if he's the third heaviest under Dk and Bowser, does that mean that DDD is NOT MORE THAN 182 POUNDS? WTF?

Just a li'l brainstormin.

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

I think it's cause Snake has a ton of gear.

 

[Blistering Speed]

Agreed, he carries an infinite amount of grenades, A Nikita Launcher, A mine, A C4 and a freaking mortar.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Of course. It incapable of being countered. Is stalling etc etc.

You can counter the attack that comes out of the attack with Marth and Ike's Counters, but I doubt thats what you guys were talking about, whatever, carry on.

 

[Sudsy86_]

Personally, I'm convinced MK and ROB ( yes, ROB) are noticeably better characters than Snake.

Is that not following-suit enough to be reasonable?

 

[AbsoluteZero255]

I think that Samus and Yoshi will be low in the tier list.

It's kinda sad. Yoshi and Samus are two of my secondaries.

 

[Blistering Speed]

Personally, I'm convinced MK and ROB ( yes, ROB) are noticeably better characters than Snake.

Is that not following-suit enough to be reasonable?

Nope, there is a reason why Snake is winning SO many tournaments. Best OOS options in the game, IMO best move in the game (F Tilt), Mortar and it's tricks make him unapproachable to people without projectiles, as well as being one of the best edgeguards in the game. F Tilt, Jab and U Tilt can all be mixed, causing huge damage and knockback with no sacrifice in speed (F Tilt comes out frame 4 @_-). Add to that his grenade and C4 mixups and for the moment he is undiputably the best character in the game. MK is a fairly close second, but just because ROB is virtually his only negative matchup, doesnt make him a better character.

 

[Ori_bro]

Yet again I have re-edited my tier list its more accurate (in my opinion) because of the separation of half the roster being in Mid tier please tell me if you think people should be moved around and if so give a good reason why.

Top
- Snake
- Meta Knight

High
- Wario
- Mr. Game & Watch
- Marth
- Falco
- King Dedede
- R.O.B
- Luigi

High Mid
- Toon Link
- Wolf
- Mario
- DK
- Olimar
- Lucas
- Jigglypuff
(Jigglypuff and DK could mid or high mid)

Mid
- Pikachu
- Ike
- Pit
- Diddy Kong
- Kirby
- Zelda
- Ice Climbers
- Ness
- Peach
(Zelda and Peach could be Low Mid or Mid)

Low Mid
- Lucario
- Zero Suit Samus
- Fox
- Shiek
- Pokemon Trainer
(Pokemon Trainer would be better of separated making it easier to judge)

Low
- Yoshi
- Captain Falcon
- Samus
- Link
- Ganondorf
- Sonic

Bottom
- Bowser

 

[AbsoluteZero255]

Yet again I have re-edited my tier list its more accurate (in my opinion) because of the separation of half the roster being in Mid tier please tell me if you think people should be moved around and if so give a good reason why.

Top
- Snake
- Meta Knight

High
- Wario
- Mr. Game & Watch
- Marth
- Falco
- King Dedede
- R.O.B
- Luigi

High Mid
- Toon Link
- Wolf
- Mario
- DK
- Olimar
- Lucas
- Jigglypuff
(Jigglypuff and DK could mid or high mid)

Mid
- Pikachu
- Ike
- Pit
- Diddy Kong
- Kirby
- Zelda
- Ice Climbers
- Ness
- Peach
(Zelda and Peach could be Low Mid or Mid)

Low Mid
- Lucario
- Zero Suit Samus
- Fox
- Shiek
- Pokemon Trainer
(Pokemon Trainer would be better of separated making it easier to judge)

Low
- Yoshi
- Captain Falcon
- Samus
- Link
- Ganondorf
- Sonic

Bottom
- Bowser

If there was L-cancelling in brawl, Bowser would be at least mid.

 

[Debonu]

Top
- Meta Knight
- Snake
- Mr. Game & Watch

High
- Marth
- Falco
- Wario
- King Dedede
- R.O.B
- Luigi

High Mid
- Toon Link
- Wolf
- Mario
- DK
- Olimar
- Lucas
- Jigglypuff

Mid
- Pikachu
- Ike
- Pit
- Diddy Kong
- Kirby
- Zelda
- Ice Climbers
- Ness
- Peach

Low Mid
- Lucario
- Zero Suit Samus
- Fox
- Shiek
- Pokemon Trainer

Low
- Yoshi
- Captain Falcon
- Samus
- Link
- Ganondorf
- Sonic

Bottom
- Bowser


thanks to the new invincibile approach discovered for metaknight he is now undoubtably the best in the game imo

 

[Blistering Speed]

When we told you the first time it sucked, we weren't joking. That list doesnt need editing, it needs burning and then the digi ashes buried whilst all the projectiles in the game hit the tomb stone.


Lurk moar

@ORI Bro

And also, MK infi cape is going to be banned. Back roomers speaking on it seem to all be agreed on it. It's too hard to police whether its stalling or not, so they're just banning it all together. Plus the fact that the AT would automatically make Brawl anti competitive, due to the sheer godlyness of it.

 

[camzaman]

When did Jigglypuff jump from Low Tier to Mid/High-Mid Tier?

 

[SmashBrother2008]

Top
- Meta Knight
- Snake
- Mr. Game & Watch
- Marth
- Falco
- Wario
- King Dedede
- R.O.B
- Luigi
- Toon Link
- Wolf
- Mario
- DK
- Olimar
- Lucas
- Jigglypuff
- Pikachu
- Ike
- Pit
- Diddy Kong
- Kirby
- Zelda
- Ice Climbers
- Ness
- Peach
- Lucario
- Zero Suit Samus
- Fox
- Shiek
- Pokemon Trainer
- Yoshi
- Captain Falcon
- Samus
- Link
- Ganondorf
- Sonic

Bottom
- Tourneytards

 

[Corigames]

Is it necessary to quote entire lists if you aren't even going to talk about the lists?

Bottom
- Tourneytards

HAR HAR HAR

Aren't you just witty. Leave the boards if you aren't a competitive player.

 

[Deleted member]

Lol@bowser in bottom.

 

[camzaman]

I repeat: When did Jigglypuff jump from Low Tier to Mid/High-Mid Tier?

 

[Kiwikomix]

She didn't.
One view =/= popular opinion.

 

[Adapt]

When did Jigglypuff jump from Low Tier to Mid/High-Mid Tier?

Someone decided that jiggs was high-mid tier... without anything to back that up. (the list that ORI posted is so messed up it's not funny anymore)

Then it got copied blindly by the next person who wanted to feel smart and made a similar tier list cuz they have no idea where half the characters stand, but decided that their characters are better and decided to bump them up higher.

 

[Grunt]

I repeat: When did Jigglypuff jump from Low Tier to Mid/High-Mid Tier?

she didn't.
The best list so far was NSS last one.

 

[salaboB]

You can counter the attack that comes out of the attack with Marth and Ike's Counters, but I doubt thats what you guys were talking about, whatever, carry on.

They mean once he vanishes, all you can do is sit and wait for him to reappear (Well, dodge around and wait -- but he chooses when he's done playing the "Can't find me" game). If you try to counter with one of the characters who has one, he'll just wait until the invincibility is done then hit you out of the lag after. That's the "There's no counter" they meant.

 

[_Phloat_]

As hectic as this is, we really aren't getting anywhere.

First off don't post if you think all the characters are exactly equal. Just go away.

What are you guys' oppinions on MK VS Snake? Not the matchup persay, but which should be higher. I propose we start at the top and work our way down the list.

 

[Dpete]

Snake should be higher than MK.

I'm not sure what that new MK AT does to this, but I'm assuming it will be banned as stalling.

 

[Corigames]

I don't think the move will be banned for stalling. It will be banned for brokenness before that, and I don't even see that happening.

 

[xSONiiC]

Hey

Can Sum1 Update Me On What You's Are Talking About
Im A Bit Confused lol

Thanks If You Do

 

[gantrain05]

I don't think the move will be banned for stalling. It will be banned for brokenness before that, and I don't even see that happening.

yeah it probably won't be banned, so lets just ban MK and it will solve all of our problems.

 

[Nigerian Star Storm]

Bottom
- Tourneytards

Even Lower
-Casuals

**** you for making E3 suck *** with your Wiimusic and Wiisports and your Wii****.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Top Tier-

Coreygames

Nigerian Star Storm

Kiwikomix

Lobelia Mk. IV

Dr. Peterson

_Phloat_

Adapt

Grunt

burntsocks

gantrain05

camzaman

Tim the Enchanter

Mmac

Pieisthebest

MysticKenji

TehBo49

Blistering Speed

Smooth Criminal

And just about everybody else who posts in this thread.


Bottom
- SmashBrother2008

C what I did thar? El oh el.


Smooth Criminal

 

[SmashBrother2008]

I see you liked my list.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

I see you liked my list.

Yeah. Obvious troll is obvious and all that.

Smooth Criminal

 

[SmashBrother2008]

Yeah. Obvious troll is obvious and all that.

Smooth Criminal

But no really, I do consider Brawl to be a much more balanced game than Melee. I guess as the competative scene developes a tier list of some sort will form anyway.

 

[Dpete]

So with MK's new AT, is he truly broken? God tier? I kinda doubt it, but does he move above Snake now?

 

[Corigames]

Well... as long as I'm top tier, I'm happy.

 

[ChronoPenguin]

Well... as long as I'm top tier, I'm happy.

That was a typo,

He meant CoreyBrains

Brains,Games, easy mistake.

your bottom tier, apparently, but Don't worry I will fight for your right to be low tier!

 

[Corigames]

At least my grammar and punctuation is top tier. >_>

 

[Nigerian Star Storm]

Well... as long as I'm top tier, I'm happy.

That list is bull**** for the fact that I'm not top >_>.


Must....be....best....at....everything.

 

[Corigames]

Ok, you can be top tier.

...


...

I'll be God tier.