I'm sorry so what exactly is in this plethora of options that Zelda has that make her so much better than Ganon?
I've been playing her about 3 years and I seem to have missed them(this is Fujin btw).
Inb4 theorycrafting.
Verm your post about Ganon was lovely and full of detail.
If only you knew half as much about Zelda as you do about Ganon.
In relation to Ganon, when someone knows the shenaniganons, Ganon's position becomes lucidly accurate.
You do realize you can replace Ganon's name in this with Zelda's and it remains just as true, right?
Same with this
The only reason one ever sees Ganon succeed is either by virtue of (near) perfect play, or the other player being ignorant in the MU. Marth is a good example.
and this
Briefly, Ganon's strength makes him look good in choice scenarios, but he has no options that are independently good,
Zelda is basically a slightly faster, smaller, floatier Ganon with a bad projectile, a bad reflector and better frame data.
Zelda doesn't have to worry about as many chain grabs and locks, but I'd say the tradeoff of dieing like 30% earlier kinda evens it out in some matches ups.
That and a handful of her attacks being escapable, even when she lands them
Both are fairly large targets
Neither can safely approach
Neither is very good at running away
Both have highly flawed specials
Both have poor recovery options
Neither can reliable shield grab many moves that most characters can
etc.
Both rely on gimmicks/shenanigans their opponents ignorance to win against most of the cast in high level play.
The main difference is that Ganon's shenanigans with a hard read can kill his opponents at like 80%.
Zelda's shenanigans can kill the opponent around 105-110%.....if she manages to successfully land this little purple hit bubble(that only last 1 frame) on a specific part of the opponent.
Let me also point out if she doesn't land the sweetspot she does a whopping 4 damage.
Most characters jabs do more damage than that.
And we cant forget her smash attacks, they can kill at around 120 fresh(which because she relies so heavily on them, they are almost never fresh).... that is if the opponent doesn't SDI out of them.
Basically what I'm trying to say is that they are both very similar characters with extremely limited options when the opponent is aware of their bag of tricks.
The main difference about their gimmicks is that WHEN they manage to land a gimmick/trick on the opponent, Ganon hit's MUCH harder and MUCH more reliably.
Not saying Zelda is necessarily worst than Ganon, but you and a few mother members here seem to have be ignorant on just how flawed her design really is.
However, i've been playing more of her recently and just the other day I got bodied by a half-way decent online zelda main (pooketard, he often hangs around the arena) so I think I could see her up a little.
Soooo because you lost to a Zelda on wifi she can't possibly be the worst character in the game.
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One last thing.
In 2012 at Apex I as playing some friendlies w/ someone and M2K asked to play against me.
After a few matches he actually commented that he thinks Zelda does worse MK in the match up than Ganondorf due to her lack of options. I agreed with him.
Just some food for thought
) and just say that most opponents who do 'worse' against Puff were bad (that day) and are bad at the MU. A possible problem nowadays is that no one's willing to take Jiggs 'to the clock' as badly as Jiggs will take them, IMO.
