Official BBR Tier List v5

[Z'zgashi]

Steam and spelt should stop dramaing and be bros again. :3

Oh also im a yoshi player waiting for the MU charts, so that I may ***** in the thread. Don't mind me.

Sunny is one of the best people on all of these boards, so listen to him.


Also, My opinion on Yoshi's MUs:

40:60 Meta Knight

50:50 Snake
45:55 Diddy Kong
40:60 Falco
50:50 Wario
40:60 Marth
55:45 Ice Climbers

50:50 Olimar
45:55 Pikachu
50:50 King Dedede
40:60 Mr Game & Watch
35:65 Lucario
50:50 Zero Suit Samus

35:65 Toon Link
50:50 Kirby
40:60 Fox
45:55 R.O.B.
50:50 Pit
60:40 Peach
50:50 Donkey Kong

60:40 Luigi
35:65 Wolf
50:50 Sonic
45:55 Ike
50:50 Sheik
55:45 Ness
55:45 Pokémon Trainer

100:0 Yoshi
60:40 Lucas
50:50 Mario
75:25 Bowser

60:40 Captain Falcon
50:50 Samus
60:40 Jigglypuff
65:35 Link
50:50 Zelda

75:25 Ganondorf

 

[zeldasmash]

65:35 Link? The rest is very good.

 

[Yikarur]

Sunny is one of the best people on all of these boards, so listen to him.


Also, My opinion on Yoshi's MUs:

40:60 Meta Knight NO

50:50 Snake LOL NO
45:55 Diddy Kong noooooo
40:60 Falco it's probably worse if the Falco plays the match-up as gay as possible
50:50 Wario Warios favor but not much
40:60 Marth
55:45 Ice Climbers we have tools, they have tools, it's 50:50 imo

50:50 Olimar sounds unrealistic ._.
45:55 Pikachu
50:50 King Dedede
40:60 Mr Game & Watch
35:65 Lucario
50:50 Zero Suit Samus this sounds unrealistic too

35:65 Toon Link
50:50 Kirby
40:60 Fox
45:55 R.O.B.
50:50 Pit
60:40 Peach Advantage? against the most shield pressuring character?
50:50 Donkey Kong

60:40 Luigi
35:65 Wolf
50:50 Sonic
45:55 Ike
50:50 Sheik
55:45 Ness
55:45 Pokémon Trainer

100:0 Yoshi
60:40 Lucas
50:50 Mario
75:25 Bowser what the **** lol you can't be serious

60:40 Captain Falcon
50:50 Samus
60:40 Jigglypuff
65:35 Link no wtf
50:50 Zelda no, really, it's in Zeldas favor for sure

75:25 Ganondorf thats sounds too much lol

some ratios are so ********, I left a lot out lol

 

[Poltergust]

Hm, it seems that us Yoshis have quite a few differing opinions. Nevertheless, everyone worked hard on the MU Chart, so please don't get too mad once it gets released.

 

[Spelt]

yoshi vs zelda in zelda's favor?
I don't get how that works.

and yeah, you went there and didn't even enter singles and took 2nd to last in doubles. only finishing better than a team of casuals... good ****.

I'm not gonna bother replying, because nobody here cares about this pointless drama.
If you really feel the need for me to give you a reply, though, i'll be happy to PM it to you.

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Lots of optimism.

 

[phi1ny3]

is her jab even that good, doesnt seem that way

It's pretty good, just not Falco OMG windbox makes it like a disjoint good. It probably has the most cancel options that work though (buffer nair, dsmash, grab, ftilt, dtilt, another jab cancel).

It's just neither hard hitting or as rewarding in many cases as ftilt, but it's still a force of its own.

 

[-Mars-]

Zelda doesn't beat yoshi dood. No way.

 

[Ussi]

i'm anticipating the chart with my arms open.

I'd say best middle ground between bias for and against a character..

At least should look better than what character boards would come up with

 

[Steam]

I honestly just can't wait for it to come out. I'm eager to see it TBH

 

[Laem]

aw i was just too late for defending wolf

not that i would have

 

[Spelt]

i'm anticipating the chart with my arms open.

I'd say best middle ground between bias for and against a character..

At least should look better than what character boards would come up with

this is basically how i feel.

 

[DMG]

Shiek vs Wolf? You guys know that Wolf loses that matchup right?

 

[Tagxy]

Sheik MU's imo
Pikachu 40-60

I wouldnt point this out except that you have wolf as 65-35; fox as 75-25, and ganon as 95-5 while the character the can 0-death you is 40-60. lol.

 

[Technodeath]

Ganons Matchups.

It's laughable, but I still play him D;

 

[Chuee]

Ganons MUs.
Everyone but Falcon: 0-100
Falcon: 1-99

 

[stingers]

nah ganon beats falcon. and ganon beats diddy.

GUARANTEED WARLOCK PUNCH
if diddy does a getup attack out of a trip

 

[-Mars-]

I wouldnt point this out except that you have wolf as 65-35; fox as 75-25, and ganon as 95-5 while the character the can 0-death you is 40-60. lol.

Yea I see your point. Pikachu might be 35-65.

Reason I don't see it as bad as Icies is because Pikachu gets ftilted for a while, he has pretty bad grab range, and Sheik has GR>DACUS on him.

 

[Mr. Johan]

I'm curious about Jiggly's matchup numbers. Would they support a character befitting of the title of the 2nd worst or the worst character in the game as some people claim she is?

Is there even a BBR member that has extensive knowledge of Jigglypuff? lol

 

[Spelt]

Is there even a BBR member that has extensive knowledge of Jigglypuff? lol

probably not.
all of her MUs are probably like 70:30 being based off of what other character mains have said.

 

[Savon]

Is there even a human being that has extensive knowledge of Jigglypuff? lol

Fixed for accuracy.

 

[Steam]

they aren't just asking BBR members lol...

 

[Flayl]

I'm going to laugh pretty hard if Yoshi's ratios are anywhere near what Zz'gashi posted.

 

[da K.I.D.]

when I see seagull posting about how all these character that **** his character, dont actually **** his character, I can see why people never take me seriously when I say things like sonic beating game and watch and rob.

I hope youre ready to back up all that junk youve been talking Joseph.

 

[Seagull Joe]

when I see seagull posting about how all these character that **** his character, dont actually **** his character, I can see why people never take me seriously when I say things like sonic beating game and watch and rob.

I hope youre ready to back up all that junk youve been talking Joseph.

I'm glad you spelled my name right. A lot of people spell it Joeseph for whatever reason Kyle.

 

[Vinnie]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297614

 

[Lenus Altair]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297614

Is that for real? Really? Those numbers surprise me.

 

[Vinnie]

Yes. What surprises you specifically?

 

[TheReflexWonder]

+3 against Ivysaur, *******. >:o

 

[Kole]

...I don't see anything surprising

 

[Steam]

ITT: G&W loses to everyone above him, goes even with those around him, and beats everyone below him

 

[Lenus Altair]

Yes. What surprises you specifically?

Even against Pit is surprising. I don't think its a hard counter but, I still think G&W has some advantage.

 

[Espy Rose]

It says IMO...so...yeah.

 

[Vinnie]

Espy what do you think Sonic vs g&w is? I have no idea wtf to do in the matchup so maybe I'm biased when I say it's even.

 

[Espy Rose]

On a personal level, I feel as though it's definitely an even match up. Of course, it's just my opinion, but I have plenty of G&W experience to support the idea (I played Hylian quite a bit back when he played G&W, and I clashed with UTD Zac plenty of times in the third and fourth quarters of last year).

 

[MJG]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=297614

GnW still beating TL? Pfft

 

[Lenus Altair]

It says IMO...so...yeah.

Missed that...

 

[Tesh]

+3 against Ivysaur, *******. >:o

Fsmash and Bacon are super effective. He's also a flying type.

 

[da K.I.D.]

i thought both links were supposed to do well vs GaW. but since gaw is +3 with everyone in the same section as link, maybe thats what doing well looks like. lol

and vinnie, I feel as if sonic COULD have the advantage in that matchup. but I havent explored that matchup to the same levels of depth as I have with some others.

also, I thought gaw beat ddd?

 

[Spelt]

i'm curious as to why kirby beats g&w so handily.