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NJ/NY Rankings: New Rankings 9/25/12!!!

Keitaro

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Piscataway, NJ
Yeah for this situation its much more beneficial to have combined states due to the low activity this season.

why don't people want to be ranked? Is it that big of a deal.
There was a time where I didn't want to be ranked because I barely entered any tournies and I didn't do too well at them.

I didn't ask to not be ranked or anything but I knew I would be sad at my ranking cause it was going to be low (I was ranked 13th that season).
 

iRJi

Smash Champion
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Sep 9, 2008
Messages
2,423
^Imagine if we didn't combine states >_>...
Thats why he didn't wanted to be listed honestly. He felt it would make a difference in what people think about the combined list. Although, I personally do not care lol.
 

DKwill

Smash Lord
Joined
May 23, 2008
Messages
1,232
Location
Planking the ledge 185 times over.
3DS FC
3497-1934-6087
Wins:
Nacho
Hinkage
Bizkit
Fatal
NinjaLink
Boss
KidGoggles
Tantalus
Poyo
Sync
Smurf
L_Cancel
MJG
Xyro
SkyPirate
Xaltis
Domo
Rich Brown
Illmatic
Trela
Luckay
Sama
Pane
Zorai
RJ
John12346

Losses:
Fatal
Lain
Shugo
Atomsk
ADHD x2
Dojo
Nairo
Jash
Vinnie
D1aos
Seagull

MM Wins ($5 or more):
Seibrik
King Beef
Meno
Lie
D.Disciple
D1aos
Shlike
Neon
Infinity
Razmakazi
Zekey
LingLing
2Fast
Seagull
Dark Flame

MM Losses ($5 or more):
KidGoggles
D1aos
Nick Riddle
Illmatic
Lie
 

_Yes!_

Smash Hero
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WHERE AM I
I've always thought top 15 would be good for combined rankings, but whatever.

Keitaro, Keitaro told me he can't make it to the rankings discussion on aim.
 

Max Ketchum

Collegiate Starleague Smash Director
Joined
Dec 9, 2007
Messages
6,216
Location
New Jersey
I don't feel like retyping it myself, but it was very sensible and leaves little reason for a top 10 combined list (except in extreme cases of inactivity like this one).
 

Vinnie

Smash Master
Joined
Oct 22, 2008
Messages
4,073
Location
Long Island, NY!
Inui's wins:
Hylianboy
Esoj
Almo
Bizkit
Nicole
vVv Cheese
Vinnie
Zori
Shadow1pj
Hylian
Illmatic

Inui's losses:
Dojo
Vinnie
Trela
ADHD
Ally
Fatal
Pelca
Junebug
Meep
Pink Fresh
Poltergust
Speed
Pwii
Jbandrew
 

_Yes!_

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To paraphrase,

"Think about it, the first four spots are already taken by the best in the country [Anti, Adhd, Atomsk, Nairo(?)]"

Then it was mentioned that Malcolm has come back to **** us all.

"So then that's top 5 already taken. That leaves 5 spots for the other players to take. People like Will and Deltacod, taking amazing wins by pushing their characters to their limits, missing rankings because there was only 5 spots left for the tons of other high level players in our region to fill. What are you going to tell them? Get better? **** that, they'll either switch to metaknight or give up and play marvel."

Another point he made was how we're catering to outside regions to show how **** we are or something, and then said that this is already a proven fact that we're the best region, so we should cater to ourselves more than to outside states/regions who'll look at the list and just agree that we're the best region.
 

pwiito

Banned via Warnings
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Jun 21, 2008
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1,749
Location
Nowhere lol, Houston
Inui's wins:
Hylianboy
Esoj
Almo
Bizkit
Nicole
vVv Cheese
Vinnie
Zori
Shadow1pj
Hylian
(maybe 1 or 2 more people from WHOBO3 bracket but we wouldn't know because he didn't post his wins)

Inui's losses:
Dojo
Vinnie
Trela
ADHD
Ally
Fatal
Pelca
Junebug
Meep
Pink Fresh
Poltergust
Speed
Inui lost to me and jband :D, he must;ve forgotten that play and trade dawg...
 

iRJi

Smash Champion
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Sep 9, 2008
Messages
2,423
To paraphrase,

"Think about it, the first four spots are already taken by the best in the country [Anti, Adhd, Atomsk, Nairo(?)]"

Then it was mentioned that Malcolm has come back to **** us all.

"So then that's top 5 already taken. That leaves 5 spots for the other players to take. People like Will and Deltacod, taking amazing wins by pushing their characters to their limits, missing rankings because there was only 5 spots left for the tons of other high level players in our region to fill. What are you going to tell them? Get better? **** that, they'll either switch to metaknight or give up and play marvel."

Another point he made was how we're catering to outside regions to show how **** we are or something, and then said that this is already a proven fact that we're the best region, so we should cater to ourselves more than to outside states/regions who'll look at the list and just agree that we're the best region.
That sums it, however the argument was pretty null for the most part. Both people started strong, but ended with low-end reasons. I didn't wanna say anything then, mainly because I just wanted to eat my food, but to make it short for now:

I feel we do NOT cater to our top 5 as much as people make it out to be. The point with Nairo was not that he was a TOP 5 player, but how he devoted himself to get there, which points out that people can do it if they put their minds to it.

When I hear things around the lines of "I missed the spot because of my character" or "I missed the spot because their are really good people in this area" I want to ask you who's fault is that? You play a game that gives you, what, 36 characters? Why lower the standards to cater to players who missed the list, rather then keep it the way it is now and have the people who put hard work on the spot they are now?

Think about this for a second before someone tries to reply. It was mentioned last season that I put X amount of effort in, (which I did, I devoted to get myself better last season) but I only made the honorable mentions list because of the other players having better wins. Now, it was not my fault they had better wins, but they had the ability to put themselves into the situation where they can grab those kinds of wins, therefore out placing me.

I could have just sat there and said "Damn, I worked hard this season, and I didn't make it. I should switch my main or QUIT" but what was really going through my head was "Damn, I have to work harder, because while I put in a lot of effort for 1 season, a lot of these people have been putting this kind of effort for over a year now."

I have this discussion with Wyatt all the time, and every time we head to a tournament. We talk about just issues I'm having, and how to improve. I know I am good, I don't need anyone to tell me other wise, but I can get better. I know I am doing well, but I know I can do better then what I am doing now. That's the difference. When I hear we cater to the higher end players, what courses in my mind is that "We don't, your just trying to cater to the lower end players to feel better about something that you COULD have done better on"

I been told this all the time. I can be happy with a C+ in something, but why when I can just do better and get an A in it. Put in more effort and time, for a longer period. Outplace other people who are trying to fight for the same spot that you are trying to grab. This is a game, and in the game you need to properly equip yourself to do better. If you play a hindered character, then do what is the best possible thing to do and pick up others.

It's competition, not a friendly casual game. Don't blame others for someone's inability to surpass others, but only yourselves for not taking the necessary steps to pass them. Everyone has access to the same material in this scenario, so use what you have been handed.
 

Atomsk_92

Smash Hero
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Jun 8, 2006
Messages
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Some of Atomsk's wins >_>

Malcolmx2
Trela
sync
gnes
fliphop
jerm
sillykyle
Malcolm
jtails
doom
will
shugo
Minty
Deltacodx2

Some of Atomsk's Losses >_>
Razer
Ally
ADHDx2
Seibrik
Dojo

Characters next to name:
Wario, DDD, MK, ICs (in that order)

tourneys recorded for Atomsk:

-Vinnie's bday tourney
-Pound 5
-WHOBO3
-Smash hit

edit: this might actually be all of his wins/losses hehe.
I also beat jband twice and beat Pwii once. Pwii also has a win on me
 

VideoKidHEERO

Smash Champion
Joined
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Messages
2,395
Location
Ikebukuro
I love NAKAT logic....

Like it never makes any sense ever.
My type of logic XD

Pwii: Hylian... like you know... someone who is from Hyrule >.>
 
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