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Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

amageish

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The movesets I want to see the most right now are Lincoln (how do you make a moveset for a generic sitcom kid?) and Nigel (is the "imitating animals" theory correct?)
Seems like Lincoln will just be doing a lot of references by pulling out items... could either lend itself to another well-rounded character (which kind of makes sense for the relatively ordinary middle sibling of the Loud Family) or maybe a trick character with some fancy mix-ups and different strategies for play (which I think could also be in-character as Lincoln is meant to be the strategist of the team? Is this right? I only watched any Loud House for the first time last night and the episodes I watched weren't exactly Lincoln-focused).

And as for Nigel... who knows, honestly. I think that theory is correct, but... yeah, it'd be nice to have a moveset for context lol.
 

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so a couple of major things as far as speculation goes is: Western Air Temple is in fact NOT a travelling stage, meaning there is in fact 3 Avatar series' stages. 3 Avatar series characters seems pretty likely now

CatDog also turns into a superhero persona for a recovery, perhaps costumes will be a bit more minor than we're expecting?

And for whatever reason Nigel is stated as a Rugrats' character by IGN. Probably just a slip up, but if not could also hint towards the whole "Rugrats Go Wild" stage being the actual Wild Thornberrys stage
 

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Even though the Nick All Star Brawl discord has a lot of emotes, i don't remember seeing a single Tak and the Power of Juju emote. It doesn't mean anythnig but still

Also how there are some shows that just quite never aired in Latam or barely aired.

I mentioned before how Ren and Stimpy barely aired in Nick Latam, instead mostly airing in national non-cable channels (this was because Nickelodeon latam didn't became a thing until 1996 which was well after R&S's heyday) Also how Class of 3000 NEVER aired on CN Latinamerica for whatever reason (which is to this day probably the only CN-Original to not air on Latam) i don't think it was ever dubbed either. You can guess i was really confused when this image popped up during the Billy and Mandy/KND Crossover, as i did not recognize this character from any show:


Also shoutout to Villanous and Jorel's Brother, which are international co-productions between Cartoon Network and latinamerican animation teams. Those were so popular and prominent that they were featured in OK KO Crossover Nexus. And those EL Santo short cartoons that were on Cartoon Network as well, that should have been a full show.


It's been pretty well known. This is why i HEAVILY disagree with what that one user said about Nick being a better crossover material than CN, when Nick for a long time seemed to be ashamed of every Nicktoon not named Spongey Boy, it's only on this last decade that they remembered "oh yeah we have another shows" CN didn't had that issue as much until TTG showed up and was as bad.

Then again, you could argue both were also guilty years before (Rugrats and Fop for Nick, and Ben 10 everything for CN)

There's a reason TV Tropes has "Adored by the Network" and "Screwed by the Network".


I live in Chile and as far as i know, Pokémon is strictly on CN. Except for THAT one time they aired some of the moves on Jetix.

Pokémon was so prominent that even Cartoon Network bumpers featured Pikachu in original animation:

Then again CN Latinamerica used to have anime that was as prominent as the Cartoon Network originals and Legacy cartoons such as Tom and Jerry. This is in part due to Latam beign far more used to importing japanese cartoons than US (we have watched anime and read manga since the 70s) and keep in mind Toonami was never as much of a success here as in the US, so they were aired on Plain Ol' CN. That Card Captor Sakura commercial is still in my mind.


Funnily enough i remember Yu-Gi-Oh being very prominent in Nick Latam, which means i can thank Nick for introducing me to the Dark Magician Girl.
Yep, I didnt watch Class of 3000 either. Still, I will say that most of the content that gets ommited over here are shows that failed horribly like the Jimmy´s head live action show (though the movie did air here.) or they are pushed on horrible schedules before disappearing from the face of the earth like Planet Sheen. As for Ren and Stimpy, that is a bit weird. I remember watching a lot of that show....

Not sure about Jorel´s brother but Villanous is a mexican production (makes me proud).

Also, you had FOP on Nick?! Or are we talking about the last and controversial seasons like over here?

As for the japanese shows, yep, Some japanese shows are really huge over here (especially Saint Seiya and Dragon Ball). But I would argue that some dubs oer here are better than the ones in the state. Special mention goes to the original digimon that is a completely different show in the USA and here.

That reminds me that the Pokemon burst in popularity gave rise to accusations of devil worshipping over here. It lasted until the Bishop of Rome at the time said otherwise. As for which channels pass pokemon over here, they are Canal 5 (Channel 5), Imagen and Cartoon Network.

While it wasn't nearly as bad as TTGo, 90's-early 00's Cartoon Network had something of a Scooby problem.

You know how people say on Nick, you had to watch Doug before the good stuff came on? That but for CN it was hours and hours of Scooby Doo and its various spinoffs, sequel shows, specials and movies. And that's if there wasn't a week or month long Scooby Doo marathon. They were ALWAYS looking for excuses to play Scooby marathons.

Hell I hear in the UK it was even worse. They'd have a yearly "Summer of Scooby". Three straight months of non-stop Scooby Doo. They'd get calls begging them to please for the love of god play something else.
Actually something similar happened to us. But it was always on the month of October. I still remember the promotional line "Octubre es el mes de Scooby Doo." (October is Scooby Doo´s month)

Putting reminiscence aside, has any news from the IGN reveal emerged?

:ultgreninja:´d
 
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The gameplay breakdown was great! I like the approaches to grabs and shielding, plus the levelling of projectiles is just the right amount of chaos. It looks like there won't be Final Smashes, but I don't really mind that all that much personally - it is just funny to see how much this game is directly targeting a competitive audience.

The matches also all look good. The music is pretty darn solid and the sound effects are making up for the lack of VA for the most part, at least - it'd still be nice to have, but I imagine I won't be missing it terribly when in the midst of a match with friends, when we'd be talking over the screen anyway.

We also have Air Temple gameplay and that stage does not appear to be travelling...

Also RIP Lucy. I feel like a Loud sibling being beaten up by a 90s character is a metaphorical representation of something about this fanbase...
 

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Holy **** the mechanics introduced are insane. I was already sold by air dashes and heavy attacks being on a separate button, but to have a rock paper scissors mechanic with heavy attacks?! Being able to grab projectiles?! Being able to AIR GRAB?!

This is without a doubt, without any sense of irony, the most complex platform fighter ever released. This game is gonna be so god damn awesome.
 

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so a couple of major things as far as speculation goes is: Western Air Temple is in fact NOT a travelling stage, meaning there is in fact 3 Avatar series' stages. 3 Avatar series characters seems pretty likely now

I'd still suggest a healthy dose of skepticism; Stage Theory could still end up being a massive coincidence.

And for whatever reason Nigel is stated as a Rugrats' character by IGN. Probably just a slip up, but if not could also hint towards the whole "Rugrats Go Wild" stage being the actual Wild Thornberrys stage
...I think you're looking too deeply into this; it's more-than-likely a goof-up on IGN's part.
 

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Really glad we got to see gameplay and more about it!

Impressions so far:
-April has great movement speed, I might like her.
-Air dashes look really fun.
-Catdog seems really good, and Lucy's range doesn't seem good
-Not even voice at all? Silent characters feels weird, dont know why they can't use voice clips from the shows at least
-I don't know how I feel about the tilt rock-paper-scissors system.
 
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dlewis53

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...Well, that was a lot to process!

1. It's neat to finally have some un-edited live gameplay, and honestly? The game looks REALLY fun! Everything moves at a pretty fast pace, though not so much as to feel overwhelming!

2. Regarding some of the characters, it definitely seems like CatDog might have some sort of stance system, because on top of the Bone that acted like a boomerang (which I'm guessing was their Neutral Special), there was also a hairball attack shot out by Cat; that says to me that there may be some switching shenanigans going on.

3. Nigel's moveset (from what I could tell) seems to center around him mimicking various animals (including a Woodpecker as one of his aerials); that freaking rules! I love goofy characters and movesets like that!

4. We got a good look at both Jellyfish Fields (which definitely seems to be the game's rendition of Smashville) and the Western Air Temple which...didn't seem to have much going on outside of the the layout, though I did notice Appa, Momo, and Aang's Glider in the background!

5. I think I'm liking the music used for both stages; they seemed fitting and I'm hoping there's a sound-test of some sort! ...Either that or someone can upload the music to Youtube.

6. Okay, so gameplay-wise, there was a LOT! The strong attacks having a rock-paper-scissors system was unexpected and interesting, I'm glad they at least have blocking in the game, that aerial down dash seemed nuts (though I wish they explained how wave-dashing works), as was the ability to pick up and throw projectiles (though I imagine it's only certain ones like the Bubble or Mikey's pizzas; you wouldn't be able to pick up, say, Danny's ghost rays or Reptar's fire blasts), strafing seems like an interesting feature, and I'm with the devs; you HAVE to have taunting! Also, SpongeBob's taunt was the chicken peck from "Little Yellow Book" and Patrick's was him belly-drumming from that episode where Plankton tries to form a band; that's neat!

Overall, this game looks great, though I'm definitely gonna need some practice in certain areas, particularly getting the hang of the Strong Attack counter system.
 

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I’ve already been sold on this game based on the premise alone and hearing that the devs are going way harder than they ever needed to, but seeing the gameplay in action had me beyond excited. Grabbing projectiles, air dashing, moving while grabbing opponents, air grabbing, and wavedashing? This game genuinely looks insane and I can’t wait to see how the meta for this game develops. Never thought a funny Spongebob smash clone would be one of my most anticipated games this year but this game looks ridiculously fun.

Also looks like the Air Temple stage isn’t a traveling stage. Another W for the Toph gang :p
 

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I’ve already been sold on this game based on the premise alone and hearing that the devs are going way harder than they ever needed to, but seeing the gameplay in action had me beyond excited. Grabbing projectiles, air dashing, moving while grabbing opponents, air grabbing, and wavedashing? This game genuinely looks insane and I can’t wait to see how the meta for this game develops. Never thought a funny Spongebob smash clone would be one of my most anticipated games this year but this game looks ridiculously fun.

Also looks like the Air Temple stage isn’t a traveling stage. Another W for the Toph gang :p
What's the Air Temple theory?
 

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What's the Air Temple theory?
People were predicting that the Air Temple stage and Omashu were two stops on a travelling stage, which doesn't seem to be the case.

Therefore, if you believe every fighter has a home stage, then there are 3 Avatar stages, implying a third Avatar fighter after Aang and Korra (most commonly believed to be Toph, as Omashu is in the Earth Kingdom).
 

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turns out IGN did it twice. It's probably a slip up and we all know what Nigel's really from, but it's possible they're counting him as a Rugrats rep instead
Well, you know what they say, you can't spell ignorant without IGN. They recently thought a destroyed city in No More Heroes 3 was a Fortnite reference...
 

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turns out IGN did it twice. It's probably a slip up and we all know what Nigel's really from, but it's possible they're counting him as a Rugrats rep instead
...I highly doubt that they're counting him as a Rugrats rep; that would just be dumb.

What's the Air Temple theory?
It's not "Air Temple Theory", it's "Stage Theory", and the way it goes is that the number of stages correlates with the number of fighters, so since there have been three confirmed Avatar stages, people have been assuming that there's gonna be a third Avatar rep.

Personally, I'm still rather skeptical of this supposed "theory"; for all we know, what we've seen so far could be a giant coincidence.
 

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People were predicting that the Air Temple stage and Omashu were two stops on a travelling stage, which doesn't seem to be the case.

Therefore, if you believe every fighter has a home stage, then there are 3 Avatar stages, implying a third Avatar fighter after Aang and Korra (most commonly believed to be Toph, as Omashu is in the Earth Kingdom).
...Which wouldn't work in that regard because of the existence of the Flying Dutchman's Ship and the Technodrome, which have no one associated with them in regards to their respective franchise's fighters.

Plus, even with that, Toph wouldn't really make much sense for an Omashu stage since she's never been to Omashu, nor does she live there. Frankly, if we were to buy the whole "home stage" thing, you'd think Ba Sing Se would make more sense.
 

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...Which wouldn't work in that regard because of the existence of the Flying Dutchman's Ship and the Technodrome, which have no one associated with them in regards to their respective franchise's fighters.

Plus, even with that, Toph wouldn't really make much sense for an Omashu stage since she's never been to Omashu, nor does she live there. Frankly, if we were to buy the whole "home stage" thing, you'd think Ba Sing Se would make more sense.
Yeah, the stages are definitely being chosen to look unique more then they are to be perfectly thematically connected to the franchise's given fighters. I do think it's entirely possible we get a different Avatar rep with Omashu, be it Katara or Sokka or what-have-you...

That said, I do believe that the game will have a "home stage" mechanic used in the single-player arcade/classic mode at this point. The game is doing a lot of classic fighting game mechanics that Smash doesn't do at this point and every fighter have a default place to fight on is pretty standard.
 
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Crazy the amount of people that doubt Klasky shows are all part of the same universe though
To be fair, in the Rugrats episode where the Aaahh! Real Monsters trio makes cameo appearances, said cameo was all in the babies' imagination.
 

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I'm kind of curious how exactly switching with CatDog is going to work. Neither the reveal trailer nor the gameplay video with Lucy really showed that.
Hopefully the creators will give more info on this. But at the very least, there is a few scenes where it seems like cat and dog switch places while standing. I assume that is when the change happens.

At around this part (0:40), I suspect one such switch happens.
 
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Hopefully the creators will give more info on this. But at the very least, there is a few scenes where it seems like cat and dog switch places while standing. I assume that is when the change happens.

At around this part (0:40), I suspect one such switch happens.
down special perhaps?
 
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