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Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

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Well, well, well. This is all really entralling. I am from Mexico. Here, FOP was actually a Jetix show instead of being part of nickelodeon. Spongebob, Invader Zim, Spongebob and Avatar were the popular shows over here. Jimmy Neutron has some fans but not as big as those other 4 (for some reason 3d shows usually arent popular over here). Since, I rarely if ever see TV. I dont know how the popularity of Nick shows are right now like the Loud House.

The schedule for some shows like MLAATR was awful and in general, we rarely received information of when new episodes for shows were coming to Nick. Like they just dropped it and we had to be lucky to see it was something new. It makes me wonder how different the network is in each country....
Woah, so you had a channel actually called "Nickelodeon," but it didn't contain all the shows made by Nickelodeon Studios? That is very interesting! Idk; there's something about the way that branding changes based on location that just fascinates me... I also relate to rarely seeing modern cable; I can say that they are still re-airing some old stuff here though (you can watch Korra S3/4 on cable in Canada in 2021, which is funny when it was streaming-only in America in 2014).

Oof. Yeah, I definitely recall being confused about when things were coming out as well.. My greatest pet peeve as a child was that networks would use incredibly broad definitions of the word "Premiere" to advertise old content as if it was new (ex/ an old episode of Spongebob is "premiering" in HD instead of SD)...

Yeah Quebec TV is weird. We do have YTV with most Nicktoons in English, but when I was younger I didn't understand english (it's my second language and I started learning it when I was around 14). Most Nicktoons were broadcasted on a French channel call Vrak TV (it's a channel that broadcast mostly french dub american children tv show, with some Quebec original live action show aimed at children too). But some Nicktoons were on Teletoon (like Ren & Stimpy, TMNT and Rocko's modern life) (yeah the Quebec Teletoon is different from the English Canada Teletoon, it's super weird and confusing).
Ooooh, interesting! That makes some sense, but it is funny that Nick shows got onto Teletoon in Quebec but not the rest of Canada (AFIAK, at least)... There must be some very specific and narrow broadcasting rights being given out then...
 

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GameMill randomly posted on the subreddit. Sounds like we may be getting news on modes/UI/features/etc tomorrow? Maybe even a full gameplay demo using the most recent build and an official confirmation of a release date?
Makes sense, we wouldn't see any reveals until the Playstation Showcase on Thursday, presumably. Sincerely doubt they're ready to show the release date yet though.
 
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Makes sense, we wouldn't see any reveals until the Playstation Showcase on Thursday, presumably. Sincerely doubt they're ready to show the release date yet though.
If we are getting a character reveal soon - whether in the PS Showcase or in a standalone presentation - I could see that being announced tomorrow as well.

As for the release date... really depends on if the one on the Steam page, the eShop listing, and basically every retail outlet is correct haha. If it is, then I could see them just confirming it at this point - no real point in making a big deal out of something that is so wide-spread.
 

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If we are getting a character reveal soon - whether in the PS Showcase or in a standalone presentation - I could see that being announced tomorrow as well.

As for the release date... really depends on if the one on the Steam page, the eShop listing, and basically every retail outlet is correct haha. If it is, then I could see them just confirming it at this point - no real point in making a big deal out of something that is so wide-spread.
It's basically an open secret, not much that can be done about it until it's officially announced the way it was supposed to be. I mean, we knew about CatDog for a while from the silhouette and they still revealed them in a grand fashion anyway.

Even Rep was mostly convinced that nothing leaked for some time.
 

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So...it looks like the second racing game did get published in Japan after all.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/292795-nickelodeon-kart-racers-2-grand-prix/images

Makes me wonder if they'll do the same for this too, especially considering that Turtlemania was a thing over there like everywhere else...🤔

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read up on Glitch Techs in TV Tropes
production is screwed six ways to sunday before season 2 could even get made, let alone air
Exposure via this game would be really useful here. :pcfire:

Also, I just found out they did a show for Big Nate, of all things.
 
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So...it looks like the second racing game did get published in Japan after all.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/ps4/292795-nickelodeon-kart-racers-2-grand-prix/images

Makes me wonder if they'll do the same for this too, especially considering that Turtlemania was a thing over there like everywhere else...🤔
I think a lot of Japanese digital storefronts have all worldwide releases avaliable, regardless of localisation. The Spyro Reignited Japanese listing caught me off guard a while back while trying to debunk a fake leak.
 

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I think a lot of Japanese digital storefronts have all worldwide releases avaliable, regardless of localisation. The Spyro Reignited Japanese listing caught me off guard a while back while trying to debunk a fake leak.
At any rate, it would certainly be handy in this case, since the characters don't have any voices until further notice. The only barrier would be to know how the game works.
 

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Woah, so you had a channel actually called "Nickelodeon," but it didn't contain all the shows made by Nickelodeon Studios? That is very interesting! Idk; there's something about the way that branding changes based on location that just fascinates me... I also relate to rarely seeing modern cable; I can say that they are still re-airing some old stuff here though (you can watch Korra S3/4 on cable in Canada in 2021, which is funny when it was streaming-only in America in 2014).

Oof. Yeah, I definitely recall being confused about when things were coming out as well.. My greatest pet peeve as a child was that networks would use incredibly broad definitions of the word "Premiere" to advertise old content as if it was new (ex/ an old episode of Spongebob is "premiering" in HD instead of SD)...



Ooooh, interesting! That makes some sense, but it is funny that Nick shows got onto Teletoon in Quebec but not the rest of Canada (AFIAK, at least)... There must be some very specific and narrow broadcasting rights being given out then...
Yep. There has been a disney channel, a cartoon network channel, a nickelodeon channel, a channel 5. a Discovery kids channel, a unicable channel and the jetix channel for kids network channels (there are some other kids channels right now like Boomerang, a Nick Jr. channel, a Disney XD channel which is a separate channel to Disney Channel, and some weird channel for baby stuff). This make seeing some cartoons way harder if you dont have all channels. Like not everyone knows about the Disney channel cartoons of the 90s and FOP isnt as well known over here for the same reason. Weirdly enough, it was when they started introducing characters like Poof, the dog and the girl that the series started to be passed on Nickelodeon. Also, we sometimes get some latin american created shows. A few Cartoon network original shows and a few Nickelodeon shows were shown in different channels than the ones that own them. I dont know why though.
 

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Exposure via this game would be really useful here
In general, Nick has issues with screwing over cartoons that aren't as successful as Spongebob, or don't seem like they'll appeal to as many people. Nicktoons Network nowadays has a reputation for being a graveyard for Nick shows they wanted to cut from the schedule for more Spongebob reruns.
 
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Exposure via this game would be really useful here. :pcfire:
Ah, maybe that's why I have seen so much buzz around it. Miko seems to have notably more demand then any other modern/non-nostalgic pick from what I have seen... Also, yeah, Nick and Production Hell go together like peanut butter and jelly. Frankly, that should be the final boss of the game's arcade mode - battling the abstract concept of network interface and schedule changes that sure look like they are being made to actively try to murder shows.

Also, I just found out they did a show for Big Nate, of all things.
Um... So they did... CGI Big Nate looks to me like someone saw the CGI Peanuts movie and said "Let's do that with Big Nate," only to promptly discover that that was a very bad idea...

I don't mind CG animation by any means, but that Big Nate just draws attention to his inhuman proportions in all the wrong ways...

Yep. There has been a disney channel, a cartoon network channel, a nickelodeon channel, a channel 5. a Discovery kids channel, a unicable channel and the jetix channel for kids network channels (there are some other kids channels right now like Boomerang, a Nick Jr. channel, a Disney XD channel which is a separate channel to Disney Channel, and some weird channel for baby stuff). This make seeing some cartoons way harder if you dont have all channels. Like not everyone knows about the Disney channel cartoons of the 90s and FOP isnt as well known over here for the same reason. Weirdly enough, it was when they started introducing characters like Poof, the dog and the girl that the series started to be passed on Nickelodeon. Also, we sometimes get some latin american created shows. A few Cartoon network original shows and a few Nickelodeon shows were shown in different channels than the ones that own them. I dont know why though.
Huh, that is a heck of a lot of channels. Weird that FOP got more attention from Nick over there once it started getting, uh, more stagnant, but I guess maybe Nick execs liked it more once they started meddling in it more...

Latin-American created shows being spliced in among the licensed American ones makes sense too; I assume there's local and semi-local stuff spliced in in most places. When this game was first revealed, I saw a few people joke about Max and Ruby getting into the game, which I found funny as that isn't actually a Nick IP - it's a Canadian cartoon Nick apparently licensed for America.
 

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Latin-American created shows being spliced in among the licensed American ones makes sense too; I assume there's local and semi-local stuff spliced in in most places. When this game was first revealed, I saw a few people joke about Max and Ruby getting into the game, which I found funny as that isn't actually a Nick IP - it's a Canadian cartoon Nick apparently licensed for America.
Yeah a lot of people were and are still confused about what shows Nick own and what they licensed. Even me when the game was announced I talk a bit about the possibility of Paw patrol in the game, until someone pointed out that's not a Nick shows but also a Canadian show that Nick licensed.

There's also a lot of confusion because of different region. When the game was announced I jokingly told a irl friends that they could put Drake and Josh or ICarly in the game, he reply with "they could also go with Zack and Cody or Cory Baxter". This is because in Quebec those shows all aired on the same channel, so it's a bit confusing to know who owns what.
 

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Huh, that is a heck of a lot of channels. Weird that FOP got more attention from Nick over there once it started getting, uh, more stagnant, but I guess maybe Nick execs liked it more once they started meddling in it more...

Latin-American created shows being spliced in among the licensed American ones makes sense too; I assume there's local and semi-local stuff spliced in in most places. When this game was first revealed, I saw a few people joke about Max and Ruby getting into the game, which I found funny as that isn't actually a Nick IP - it's a Canadian cartoon Nick apparently licensed for America.
I assume its because we get shows from all over Latin America, USA, Canada, Japan and strangely enough France and there wouldnt be not enough space for all of them if we had few channels. Though there is stuff that is still common to USA like lots of Spongebob on Nick and lots of Teen Titans Go in CN. For the most part, most Nick shows are on Nickelodeon but sometimes watching shows with continuations gets awfully complicated. Examples:
-Digimon jumped through channels between series 5 times.
-Batman the animated series, Superman the animated series and Justice League were all on different channels.
-Despite Cartoon Network always airing Scooby Doo here, the movies were all aired on a different network for years.
-And to this day, Pokemon airs on three different channels at the same time.
 
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Yeah a lot of people were and are still confused about what shows Nick own and what they licensed. Even me when the game was announced I talk a bit about the possibility of Paw patrol in the game, until someone pointed out that's not a Nick shows but also a Canadian show that Nick licensed.

There's also a lot of confusion because of different region. When the game was announced I jokingly told a irl friends that they could put Drake and Josh or ICarly in the game, he reply with "they could also go with Zack and Cody or Cory Baxter". This is because in Quebec those shows all aired on the same channel, so it's a bit confusing to know who owns what.
Oh, interesting! I honestly had thought Paw Patrol was Disney... I think it is on Family here, but it may be on its own children-related channel.

Wow, that is a lot of different companies on one station. That said, looking it up, apparently YTV and Teletoon are actually the same company in disguise and therefore my entire childhood was a lie...

I assume its because we get shows from all over Latin America, USA, Canada, Japan and strangely enough France and there wouldnt be not enough space for all of them if we had few channels. Though there is stuff that is still common to USA like lots of Spongebob on Nick and lots of Teen Titans Go in CN. For the most part, most Nick shows are on Nickelodeon but sometimes watching shows with continuations gets awfully complicated. Examples:
-Digimon jumped through channels between series 5 times.
-Batman the animated series, Superman the animated series and Justice League were all on different channels.
-Despite Cartoon Network always airing Scooby Doo here, the movies were all aired on a different network for years.
-And to this day, Pokemon airs on three different channels at the same time.
WOW. That sounds... like a lot of work for a child to keep track of what is going on with their favourite IPs. Pokemon getting to be on three channels is a testament to its success though; that IP does truly print money...
 

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Lincoln (how do you make a moveset for a generic sitcom kid?)
That'll be interesting, and can potentially prove my "don't necessarily have to constantly shove in references to have a creative moveset" theory.

On my end, I want to see the rest of April's moveset, for the sake of comparing just how different she fights here compared to Shredder's Revenge (which has most of her moves being similar to or directly inspired by Street Fighter when not using studio equipment).
 

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Even though the Nick All Star Brawl discord has a lot of emotes, i don't remember seeing a single Tak and the Power of Juju emote. It doesn't mean anythnig but still

I assume its because we get shows from all over Latin America, USA, Canada, Japan and strangely enough France and there wouldnt be not enough space for all of them if we had few channels. Though there is stuff that is still common to USA like lots of Spongebob on Nick and lots of Teen Titans Go in CN. For the most part, most Nick shows are on Nickelodeon but sometimes watching shows with continuations gets awfully complicated. Examples:
-Digimon jumped through channels between series 5 times.
-Batman the animated series, Superman the animated series and Justice League were all on different channels.
-Despite Cartoon Network always airing Scooby Doo here, the movies were all aired on a different network for years.
-And to this day, Pokemon airs on three different channels at the same time.
Also how there are some shows that just quite never aired in Latam or barely aired.

I mentioned before how Ren and Stimpy barely aired in Nick Latam, instead mostly airing in national non-cable channels (this was because Nickelodeon latam didn't became a thing until 1996 which was well after R&S's heyday) Also how Class of 3000 NEVER aired on CN Latinamerica for whatever reason (which is to this day probably the only CN-Original to not air on Latam) i don't think it was ever dubbed either. You can guess i was really confused when this image popped up during the Billy and Mandy/KND Crossover, as i did not recognize this character from any show:


Also shoutout to Villanous and Jorel's Brother, which are international co-productions between Cartoon Network and latinamerican animation teams. Those were so popular and prominent that they were featured in OK KO Crossover Nexus. And those EL Santo short cartoons that were on Cartoon Network as well, that should have been a full show.

In general, Nick has issues with screwing over cartoons that aren't as successful as Spongebob, or don't seem like they'll appeal to as many people. Nicktoons Network nowadays has a reputation for being a graveyard for Nick shows they wanted to cut from the schedule for more Spongebob reruns.
It's been pretty well known. This is why i HEAVILY disagree with what that one user said about Nick being a better crossover material than CN, when Nick for a long time seemed to be ashamed of every Nicktoon not named Spongey Boy, it's only on this last decade that they remembered "oh yeah we have another shows" CN didn't had that issue as much until TTG showed up and was as bad.

Then again, you could argue both were also guilty years before (Rugrats and Fop for Nick, and Ben 10 everything for CN)

There's a reason TV Tropes has "Adored by the Network" and "Screwed by the Network".

WOW. That sounds... like a lot of work for a child to keep track of what is going on with their favourite IPs. Pokemon getting to be on three channels is a testament to its success though; that IP does truly print money...
I live in Chile and as far as i know, Pokémon is strictly on CN. Except for THAT one time they aired some of the moves on Jetix.

Pokémon was so prominent that even Cartoon Network bumpers featured Pikachu in original animation:

Then again CN Latinamerica used to have anime that was as prominent as the Cartoon Network originals and Legacy cartoons such as Tom and Jerry. This is in part due to Latam beign far more used to importing japanese cartoons than US (we have watched anime and read manga since the 70s) and keep in mind Toonami was never as much of a success here as in the US, so they were aired on Plain Ol' CN. That Card Captor Sakura commercial is still in my mind.


Funnily enough i remember Yu-Gi-Oh being very prominent in Nick Latam, which means i can thank Nick for introducing me to the Dark Magician Girl.
 

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CN didn't had that issue as much until TTG showed up and was as bad.
While it wasn't nearly as bad as TTGo, 90's-early 00's Cartoon Network had something of a Scooby problem.

You know how people say on Nick, you had to watch Doug before the good stuff came on? That but for CN it was hours and hours of Scooby Doo and its various spinoffs, sequel shows, specials and movies. And that's if there wasn't a week or month long Scooby Doo marathon. They were ALWAYS looking for excuses to play Scooby marathons.

Hell I hear in the UK it was even worse. They'd have a yearly "Summer of Scooby". Three straight months of non-stop Scooby Doo. They'd get calls begging them to please for the love of god play something else.
 

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While it wasn't nearly as bad as TTGo, 90's-early 00's Cartoon Network had something of a Scooby problem.

You know how people say on Nick, you had to watch Doug before the good stuff came on? That but for CN it was hours and hours of Scooby Doo and its various spinoffs, sequel shows, specials and movies. And that's if there wasn't a week or month long Scooby Doo marathon. They were ALWAYS looking for excuses to play Scooby marathons.

Hell I hear in the UK it was even worse. They'd have a yearly "Summer of Scooby". Three straight months of non-stop Scooby Doo. They'd get calls begging them to please for the love of god play something else.
Wow, I didn't know Scooby-Doo was overplayed in your country? was it yours? sorry.
 

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Yeah, US Cartoon Network would have whole blocks of various Scooby shows in the morning to the afternoon, and then reruns of Scooby Doo Where Are You and New Scooby Doo Movies scattered throughout the day.
Yikes, Didn't know this was the case here, my brother would completely dislike Scooby-Doo! if he lived through those days(Thank God)

He didn't like TTG and He also didn't like Tom & Jerry for how many times it aired on Boomerang.
 
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