Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

[Borskaboska]

I can agree with All-Star being a tad overdone but I have to disagree with the second half. It's not just a fighting game thing after all, but a naming convention across multiple genres.

Having some sort of descriptor in the title isn't necessarily a bad thing. It helps to tell you what the game is about when you're going in with zero knowledge.

They're not the most creative names a lot of the time but what else would you call Mario Party or Mario Kart for example? Or to use your own example of Street Fighter, what's a good alternative? No matter what, you're going to allude to fighting somehow. World Warrior is the most appropriate alternative that comes to mind for me at least. That still doesn't pass your criteria though.

Neither does Tactics Ogre for that matter. Let Us Cling Together is the subtitle. Nor does it's series: Ogre Battle.

It's a tactical/strategy RPG with tactics in the name. Triangle Stategy has strategy in the name. Final Fantasy is a fantasy RPG with fantasy in the name.

I think you get the idea by now, but descriptors don't make a name bad, it's about how it's used and in some cases simply the perception of overuse due to repeated exposure.

I mean it's just a personal preference, I just think it's boring. I came to this conclusion when I heard Persona 5 Tactica and Warhammer Tacticus around the same time, i just thought "wow, people really can't come up with other names for tactics games?"

Is the Party game genre not named after Mario Party? I feel like before mario party came out, games like that would've just been called "board game simulator"

Triangle Strategy is actually a horrendous name. Like up there with the worst. There are parents naming there children after long dead war criminals, and Triangle Strategy is still a worse name. I MUCH prefer evocative gibberish names like "Octopath Traveler".

Final Fantasy isnt really what i'm talking about, game genre and setting genre aren't the same thing.

I'm fine with street fighter, and World Warrior would be OK too, mostly because those refer to the characters more than the game itself. Like, ryu is the guy who fights in the streets, he's the street fighter. It just works for me, maybe i just think its funny that its so on-the-nose generic. But a lot of fighting games have really bland names. Like Fighter's History and Art of Fighting.

I think titles should either provide a hook by alluding to some plot detail or create a tone to set the stage for the experience. Like, Super Smash Bros is a great name. For one, it's a play on super mario bros because it has platforming elements. Secondly, it uses a comparatively silly word like 'smash' instead of something serious like Fight or Combat, which makes it feel like its actually play fighting instead of an actual death match. It perfectly sets the tone of a silly game where you smash around your friends and the violence is just cartoon slapstick.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

For anyone who's interested, I did put up a video on my channel where I interviewed community lead, TO, and commentator Cherry about his experience with the series, what it's like being a TO and commentator, and more. The recording software did not like my mike haha

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

NASB1's getting its PM. Current patch is just bug fixes and restoration of certain earlier patch changes.

 

[Ze Diglett]

For a bit of fun, I challenged myself to think of the most contentious possible pick for a theoretical NASB3, and I've come to the conclusion that it'd have to be Mr. Hock-Tooey. He'd mean adding a "meme pick" (for a meme no one's gonna remember in a year), randomly prioritizing a side character (who only appears in a single flashback), AND snubbing Arnold again all in one character. That's like, the trifecta of NASB roster hate. Bonus points if they cut Gerald and Gertie, but re-add Helga somehow. Discourse would be unsalvageable, but it sure would be funny for about a week.

These are the things you think about when your game has no foreseeable future.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

For a bit of fun, I challenged myself to think of the most contentious possible pick for a theoretical NASB3, and I've come to the conclusion that it'd be Mr. Hock-Tooey. He'd mean adding a "meme pick" (for a meme no one's gonna remember in a year), randomly prioritizing a side character (who only appears in a single flashback), AND snubbing Arnold again all in one character. That's like, the trifecta of NASB roster hate. Bonus points if they cut Gerald and Gertie, but re-add Helga somehow. Discourse would be unsalvageable, but it sure would be funny for about a week.

These are the things you think about when your game has no foreseeable future.

All the kids will think it's a Hawk Tuah reference and that thought makes me want to punch a wall

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

For a bit of fun, I challenged myself to think of the most contentious possible pick for a theoretical NASB3, and I've come to the conclusion that it'd be Mr. Hock-Tooey. He'd mean adding a "meme pick" (for a meme no one's gonna remember in a year), randomly prioritizing a side character (who only appears in a single flashback), AND snubbing Arnold again all in one character. That's like, the trifecta of NASB roster hate. Bonus points if they cut Gerald and Gertie, but re-add Helga somehow. Discourse would be unsalvageable, but it sure would be funny for about a week.

These are the things you think about when your game has no foreseeable future.

And he's a gross-out joke too, so that's a quadfecta at that! Don't know how people with a low tolerance for fart jokes would end up becoming Nickelodeon devotees, but it seems to happen a lot somehow.

 

[Ze Diglett]

All the kids will think it's a Hawk Tuah reference and that thought makes me want to punch a wall

Well yeah, that's what I was getting at with the whole "meme pick" bit. The only reason I even know who this guy is is thanks to someone reposting the clip now that Hawk Tuah's the new Big Chungus.

 

[RileyXY1]

My idea for a new Hey Arnold character is actually Phoebe Heyerdahl.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Pretty surprising news: Nick al star Brawl is the 6th most downloaded eshop games of 2024 in Japan link. I'm guessing this is because the game is often in sales, but still very surprising.

 

[Borskaboska]

Pretty surprising news: Nick al star Brawl is the 6th most downloaded eshop games of 2024 in Japan link. I'm guessing this is because the game is often in sales, but still very surprising.

how popular is nick in general in japan? Fingers crossed that the continued sales of nasb could justify a 3rd game, even if 2 didnt reach expectations.

 

[Guynamednelson]

how popular is nick in general in japan?

Nick Japan shut down in 2008, and when it comes to Nicktoons they only mostly like SpongeBob and MLaaTR.

 

[RileyXY1]

Japan is a place where Nickelodeon barely even exists, so for it to be in the Top 10 best selling Eshop titles there is a massive deal.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I know way too much about Japanese perception of American cartoons, so here's some info - keep in mind I'm not Japanese and have never been to Japan, so I may be wrong on some things:

SpongeBob is popular, but mostly known as a Hello Kitty-style merchandising character first and cartoon character second; TMNT is very popular; MLaaTR and Ren & Stimpy have notable cult followings; Garfield is known as "an American thing" (I am ESPECIALLY unsure on this one); and Avatar is a non-entity and disliked by most who have seen it.

Anyway... iterativebros.... NASB1 will never be a memory.

 

[Ze Diglett]

MLaaTR and Ren & Stimpy have notable cult followings

This one in particular comes as a shock, though I guess I can see it being true in a Westaboo kind of way.

NASB having any sort of presence in Japan in the year of our lord 2024 is kinda baffling. Basically no one seems to remember it only a year out from its last installment in the West, so I gotta wonder what Japan's doing to keep the name alive.

 

[Opossum]

I know way too much about Japanese perception of American cartoons, so here's some info - keep in mind I'm not Japanese and have never been to Japan, so I may be wrong on some things:

SpongeBob is popular, but mostly known as a Hello Kitty-style merchandising character first and cartoon character second; TMNT is very popular; MLaaTR and Ren & Stimpy have notable cult followings; Garfield is known as "an American thing" (I am ESPECIALLY unsure on this one); and Avatar is a non-entity and disliked by most who have seen it.

Anyway... iterativebros.... NASB1 will never be a memory.

Anecdotal as well, but I think the best Garfield comparison might be like how Doraemon is in the west? Just based on what I've seen, anyway.

Where the character is sort of vaguely known as "oh that's (an American/a Japanese) character" but not usually anything more than that, but you occasionally see people who know a bit more about it. But mostly they're still exclusive to like, merchandising in storefronts.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

This one in particular comes as a shock, though I guess I can see it being true in a Westaboo kind of way.

Despite what certain subsectors of anime fandom would have you believe, gross-out humour and "ugly" character designs are - to my knowledge - quite popular in Japan - a lot of Akira Toriyama's early works featured constant poop references, and Shin Chan had a lot of vulgar elements even before the adult gag dub - so it makes sense R&S would translate. There are characters in Shaman King that are literally just Ren & Stimpy - these aren't background characters like the Nostalgia Critic/AVGN anime characters that resurface every now and then, they're talking characters with personalities.

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[Borskaboska]

I know way too much about Japanese perception of American cartoons, so here's some info - keep in mind I'm not Japanese and have never been to Japan, so I may be wrong on some things:

SpongeBob is popular, but mostly known as a Hello Kitty-style merchandising character first and cartoon character second; TMNT is very popular; MLaaTR and Ren & Stimpy have notable cult followings; Garfield is known as "an American thing" (I am ESPECIALLY unsure on this one); and Avatar is a non-entity and disliked by most who have seen it.

Anyway... iterativebros.... NASB1 will never be a memory.

im surprised avatar wouldnt be popular. any particular reason why?

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

im surprised avatar wouldnt be popular. any particular reason why?

I'm not Japanese, and not all too familiar with either Avatar show, so take this with a grain of salt, but I've heard it attributed to a sort of cultural uncanny valley, the characters have Asian customs on a mostly-superficial level, but act essentially as Americans would - unlike a Disney movie where everyone is basically just American for all extents and purposes but happens to live in a foreign country.

 

[fogbadge]

I'm not Japanese, and not all too familiar with either Avatar show, so take this with a grain of salt, but I've heard it attributed to a sort of cultural uncanny valley, the characters have Asian customs on a mostly-superficial level, but act essentially as Americans would - unlike a Disney movie where everyone is basically just American for all extents and purposes but happens to live in a foreign country.

that makes a kind of sense. I knew a woman from Belgian who described the character Hercule Poirot as a very British Belgian.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Character modding for NASB2 has been figured out.

Cherry 🔜 Frosty Faustings (@cherrynasb.com)

Markaccino a talented modder for #nasb2 has cracked custom character modding. KRATOS ENTERS THE BATTLE! #platsky

bsky.app

 

[Donaldtoon]

Roster prediction for the third game

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

View attachment 397515Roster prediction for the third game

TBH this would be really disappointing. Lincoln's back, only one 90s show gets new reps, all 4 TMNT instead of Shredder/Rocksteady/a new villain, 52 characters... Ugh.

 

[Opossum]

View attachment 397515Roster prediction for the third game

The two oddities here imo are these:

1. Bringing all but four characters back on a roster of this size feels...weird. Like if the roster gets to that size I don't really see a point in dropping Shredder, Rocksteady, Iroh, and Powdered Toast Man, especially with some of the additions here.

2. I genuinely do not see a reality where four Loud House characters is ever a thing that happens. There's infamously almost zero fandom overlap between the people who buy these games and the people who watch that show, so having four Loud House characters on the roster feels more than excessive.

 

[Donaldtoon]

TBH this would be really disappointing. Lincoln's back, only one 90s show gets new reps, all 4 TMNT instead of Shredder/Rocksteady/a new villain, 52 characters... Ugh.

Maybe i should have put Shredder, Arnold or Rocksteady instead of Queen Vexus but at last we had Casey Jones as dlc

 

[Donaldtoon]

The two oddities here imo are these:

1. Bringing all but four characters back on a roster of this size feels...weird. Like if the roster gets to that size I don't really see a point in dropping Shredder, Rocksteady, Iroh, and Powdered Toast Man, especially with some of the additions here.

2. I genuinely do not see a reality where four Loud House characters is ever a thing that happens. There's infamously almost zero fandom overlap between the people who buy these games and the people who watch that show, so having four Loud House characters on the roster feels more than excessive.

Luan and Luna had decent positions in the fan polls

https://www.reddit.com/r/AllStarBrawl/comments/1b0ilo3/spring_2024_fan_poll_results/#lightbox

 

[Opossum]

Luan and Luna had decent positions in the fan polls

https://www.reddit.com/r/AllStarBrawl/comments/1b0ilo3/spring_2024_fan_poll_results/#lightbox

I mean...it was a fan poll with fewer than 400 votes cast, and even then they only made it into the top fifteen or eighteen, respectively. I still don't think that's really good enough to justify The Loud House going from a single character in NASB2 to four in a hypothetical NASB3.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

TBH this would be really disappointing. Lincoln's back, only one 90s show gets new reps, all 4 TMNT instead of Shredder/Rocksteady/a new villain, 52 characters... Ugh.

Aren't you a Lincoln main in the first game?

People have literally been asking for all four TMNT since the beginning, how is this a problem when he added a new character anyway

Big rosters aren't bad just because you hate them. Unrealistic expectation absolutely but they have a really solid groundwork to work from. Just adding more content would be an easy and lucrative way for them to save resources. They rebuilt it once, they're not gonna do it again.

The two oddities here imo are these:

1. Bringing all but four characters back on a roster of this size feels...weird. Like if the roster gets to that size I don't really see a point in dropping Shredder, Rocksteady, Iroh, and Powdered Toast Man, especially with some of the additions here.

2. I genuinely do not see a reality where four Loud House characters is ever a thing that happens. There's infamously almost zero fandom overlap between the people who buy these games and the people who watch that show, so having four Loud House characters on the roster feels more than excessive.

I'll be honest I can't see them dropping it outright, but I don't think we're going above one LH rep ever again.

View attachment 397515Roster prediction for the third game

PTM is the most painful omission here for me. Also they'd never do Vendetta.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Edit: Double post

 

[Inkling Man]

To give NASB 2's roster the benefit of the doubt, maybe the devs thought it was their last chance to put in any new characters they wanted to put in even if it meant sacrificing other characters. They wanted to put Donnie and Raph in the game but they only had room for so many characters and we can already play as Leo and Mikey in NASB 1. One of the good things about NASB 2 is that it doesn't make NASB 1 obsolete. Both games have plenty of reason to be played.

 

[RileyXY1]

I can see two TLH reps happen next time, especially with a bigger roster.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

Aren't you a Lincoln main in the first game?

People have literally been asking for all four TMNT since the beginning, how is this a problem when he added a new character anyway

Big rosters aren't bad just because you hate them. Unrealistic expectation absolutely but they have a really solid groundwork to work from. Just adding more content would be an easy and lucrative way for them to save resources. They rebuilt it once, they're not gonna do it again.

1. You know I play based on functions, and you know that NASB reworks characters. It's not hard to understand.

2. IDGAF what people want. I'm not a Nick shareholder, I get no gain or loss from fans getting what they want aside from my personal thoughts on the selected content

3. Yes, if I hate something that means it is - from my perspective - bad. Objective critique is an oxymoron. Please just watch this already, I've tried to show you it like 50 times now.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

1. You know I play based on functions, and you know that NASB reworks characters. It's not hard to understand.

2. IDGAF what people want. I'm not a Nick shareholder, I get no gain or loss from fans getting what they want aside from my personal thoughts on the selected content

3. Yes, if I hate something that means it is - from my perspective - bad. Objective critique is an oxymoron. Please just watch this already, I've tried to show you it like 50 times now.

If you play based on functions you shouldn't be disappointed in Lincoln or having all four turtles, because characters are just functions and that's all they are according to you.

You whine whenever people put a dream roster up and I'm calling you out on it, get over yourself. You don't have to throw a temper tantrum because someone likes big rosters. Just because you have something that crawled up your butt and made you incapable of joy doesn't mean you get to trash on other people's dreams. And yeah, I acknowledge that I've done the same in the past but unlike you I've actually chilled out about it and don't try to put others down. Take Opossum's strategy of giving constructive criticism instead of being a prick for no reason. The point isn't "other people like it so you should too", it's "stop looking down your nose at someone with a different opinion than you" and "think about what you say before you say it."

FFS I disagree fundamentally with Field's takes on shields in Multiversus but I don't think less of them as a person, whereas everytime you post it reads like you do

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

you have something that crawled up your butt and made you incapable of joy

I get these kind of comments a lot and it makes me uncomfortable, l'll just quote another post I said about this situation

I want to say that this specific remark gives me BAD vibes beyond simple disagreement. I'm not assuming you have any concious prejudices at all, but I view games through their code and design choices, and characters detached from myself, because that's how my brain is wired - the 'tism - so to call that "a bit sad" just makes me... ugh. ew.
....
Even if there wasn't that neuro element... I enjoy games just fine that way, it's not "sad" because I do it differently. I even enjoy Smash (pre-Brawl at least) that way. Do you think I'm talking about nicotine or something, and I don't actually like games, I'm just addicted?

Please just watch the video essay already, it goes in way more depth about objective vs. subjective than I ever could. This from the same channel is very relevant too.

The entire rest of your argument is based on assumptions of either tone or opinions adjacent to those I've said that I have explicitly explained the nuance behind in the past, I don't think I should respond because I know you'll just do that again - I'd like to believe you've grown up enough to not play tsundere anymore at least.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

I get these kind of comments a lot and it makes me uncomfortable, l'll just quote another post I said about this situation


Please just watch the video essay already, it goes in way more depth about objective vs. subjective than I ever could. This from the same channel is very relevant too.

The entire rest of your argument is based on assumptions of either tone or opinions adjacent to those I've said that I have explicitly explained the nuance behind in the past, I don't think I should respond because I know you'll just do that again - I'd like to believe you've grown up enough to not play tsundere anymore at least.

No, you don't get to hide behind that. It's as simple as "choose your words more carefully." Being neurologically wired a different way is not an excuse to keep getting away with being an ass.

You specifically chose to comment on Donald's roster with nothing but pure unabashed negativity. You could have chosen to not respond, yet you did anyway and you added nothing constructive, all you did was complain. I've got my own share of neurodivergency but I don't make it an excuse to deflect accountability for my actions, which is absolutely what you're doing. You've been called out on before by not just me, so instead of trying to deflect and self-justify your excuses to be a jerk for no reason, maybe think that maybe you might actually be at fault for once. It really isn't that hard to look inward and realize you could've done better.

This isn't about objectivity vs. subjectivity, it's about not being a prick for no reason. There is no nuance to what you said, you were ****ting all over Donald's roster for absolutely no reason. You don't HAVE to have a snarky comment on everything you dislike. You can just choose to ignore it. But no, you're going to keep going on the same self-victimizing path you always do and blame everyone else for "not getting the nuances of my personality" when there are none

I don't really like Donald's roster much either but note how I chose to ignore it and go on with my day instead of kicking a puppy for no foreseeable reason.

You didn't give any analytical reasoning for why you don't like it, all you did was dunk on it. Does that make you feel cool? You could've complimented him on some of the choices you did like but didn't do that either and focused entirely on the negatives. I'm sure you're a blast to be around in real life

Frankly, if you get those kind of comments a lot, then you're the problem, and I don't care about not making you uncomfortable. You're being given all the warning signs to change and be better and you're willfully ignoring them and throwing up a flimsy wall to protect your ego. You're literally the "Am I so out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong" meme.

You want to prove me wrong? Then do some reflection and be better.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

No, you don't get to hide behind that. It's as simple as "choose your words more carefully." Being neurologically wired a different way is not an excuse to keep getting away with being an ass.

You specifically chose to comment on Donald's roster with nothing but pure unabashed negativity. You could have chosen to not respond, yet you did anyway and you added nothing constructive, all you did was complain. I've got my own share of neurodivergency but I don't make it an excuse to deflect accountability for my actions, which is absolutely what you're doing. You've been called out on before by not just me, so instead of trying to deflect and self-justify your excuses to be a jerk for no reason, maybe think that maybe you might actually be at fault for once. It really isn't that hard to look inward and realize you could've done better.

This isn't about objectivity vs. subjectivity, it's about not being a prick for no reason. There is no nuance to what you said, you were ****ting all over Donald's roster for absolutely no reason. You don't HAVE to have a snarky comment on everything you dislike. You can just choose to ignore it. But no, you're going to keep going on the same self-victimizing path you always do and blame everyone else for "not getting the nuances of my personality" when there are none

I don't really like Donald's roster much either but note how I chose to ignore it and go on with my day instead of kicking a puppy for no foreseeable reason.

You didn't give any analytical reasoning for why you don't like it, all you did was dunk on it. Does that make you feel cool? You could've complimented him on some of the choices you did like but didn't do that either and focused entirely on the negatives. I'm sure you're a blast to be around in real life

Frankly, if you get those kind of comments a lot, then you're the problem, and I don't care about not making you uncomfortable. You're being given all the warning signs to change and be better and you're willfully ignoring them and throwing up a flimsy wall to protect your ego. You're literally the "Am I so out of touch? No, it's the children who are wrong" meme.

You want to prove me wrong? Then do some reflection and be better.

If your problem was my tone, why did your first response respond to my specific criticisms and not the tone? (which wasn't intended to be combatative BTW, "This would be bad lists reasons Ugh..." is not flaming, at least to my knowledge). My response was specifically about the notion that I am "incapable of joy", something I recieve a lot over things like the functions debacle or my hatred for hype culture, hence why I was selective with the quote text, and I assumed you also meant in relation to hype culture and fan demand, as before that you specifically brought up general fan demand and not Donald's own wants in response to me criticising having all 4 TMNT, and my response was that appealing to fan demand is bad, not that appealing to Donald specifically is bad - if I realised your response was related to Donald specifically, and not the general nature of fan demand, I would not have quoted the post. I'm going to give you the benfit of the doubt and assume you've grown past the "Bubsy is just a meme" mentality of Infinite's days, but comparing the concept of criticising a fan roster as "kicking a puppy" is a massive overcorrection.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

If your problem was my tone, why did your first response respond to my specific criticisms and not the tone? (which wasn't intended to be combatative BTW, "This would be bad lists reasons Ugh..." is not flaming, at least to my knowledge). My response was specifically about the notion that I am "incapable of joy", something I recieve a lot over things like the functions debacle or my hatred for hype culture, hence why I was selective with the quote text, and I assumed you also meant in relation to hype culture and fan demand, as before that you specifically brought up general fan demand and not Donald's own wants in response to me criticising having all 4 TMNT, and my response was that appealing to fan demand is bad, not that appealing to Donald specifically is bad. I'm going to give you the benfit of the doubt and assume you've grown past the "Bubsy is just a meme" mentality of Infinite's days, but comparing the concept of criticising a fan roster as "kicking a puppy" is a massive overcorrection.

I'll openly admit that in the heat of the moment my thoughts kind of just spill out and I try to reorganize them later but my point remains the same: You're using your neurodivergency as a get out of jail free card to just be negative for no reason. If people are telling you "hey dude, your wording makes you sound miserable and you complain about everything and it's really bringing the mood down" then you are the problem, dude. If you didn't like Donald's lineup, why respond? Was looking at it really just that offensive you to? If so, then you need to sort out your priorities better.

Even though you may not see it as such, the constant negativity about other people's desires is rude at the very least, because you're not even giving them proper criticism, just complaining, and depending on some people's perception can be taken as bullying (and yes, I am acknowledging some of my own past behavior as just as problematic) - I know for a fact that you are the primary reason someone I know left this website, because of the way you treated them, because they've told me as such. I'm asking you to be reflective before you make a post and think, really think, "Is what I'm about to say potentially harmful or too negative?" If the answer is yes, don't write it, or find a way to spin some positives in there and rephrase so you're not coming off as an asshole for no reason.

It's not the act of criticizing that's the problem, it's the way you went about it. I don't see how that's so hard to understand. If you posted something you really liked, and then all I did was dump all over it, how would you feel? And if your response is "grow thicker skin" then you really don't understand anything about anyone else, because that's not possible for everyone. No one likes being around the guy who thinks highly of themselves and constantly dumps on everyone else for not meeting their specific tastes.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I'll openly admit that in the heat of the moment my thoughts kind of just spill out and I try to reorganize them later but my point remains the same: You're using your neurodivergency as a get out of jail free card to just be negative for no reason. If people are telling you "hey dude, your wording makes you sound miserable and you complain about everything and it's really bring the mood down" then you are the problem, dude. If you didn't like Donald's lineup, why respond? Was looking at it really just that offensive you to? If so, then you need to sort out your priorities better.

Even though you may not see it as such, the constant negativity about other people's desires is rude at the very least, because you're not even giving them proper criticism, just complaining, and depending on some people's perception can be taken as bullying (and yes, I am acknowledging some of my own past behavior as just as problematic) - I know for a fact that you are the primary reason someone I know left this website, because of the way you treated them, because they've told me as such. I'm asking you to be reflective before you make a post and think, really think, "Is what I'm about to say potentially harmful or too negative?" If the answer is yes, don't write it, or find a way to spin some positives in there and rephrase so you're not coming off as an asshole for no reason.

It's not the act of criticizing that's the problem, it's the way you went about it. I don't see how that's so hard to understand. If you posted something you really liked, and then all I did was dump all over it, how would you feel? And if your response is "grow thicker skin" then you really don't understand anything about anyone else, because that's not possible for everyone. No one likes being around the guy who thinks highly of themselves and constantly dumps on everyone else for not meeting their specific tastes.

This is gonna be very messy and disorganised and inconsistent and... I dunno. Best to just dump everything I think.

I don't know who left the site because of me, I'd need context to truly judge (but would rather that information stay private as well, that would be best for everyone), but I do feel a little bad now you bring it up. Maybe it is wise for me to re-evaluate how I talk about things, at least in a direct person-to-person context - I'm well aware that "life's tough, grow a thick skin" mentality is toxic and terrible, and I sure as hell know I can hold some unfortunate grudges too that I need to outgrow - however, I also do think NASB speculation has historically been - at best - incoherent, and at worst based entirely in rigid patterns or desire for popularity/validation and not curiousity (and hell, that could just be an autism symptom too, so - while I stand by it in the original context relating to functions since my brain is wired to see things as functions and systems - it might have been bad to mention in relation to fan demand, since that is moreso a personality/experiences thing than the direct result of brain wiring), so I'm not gonna apologise for putting my foot down in relation to something like Lincolnposting, fan polls, or cut drama. If I do reflect and change (which I cannot ensure, as I need to evaluate these thoughts, not just act on a whim), it will only be how I act, not how I percieve things. Truthfully, I was probably getting overemotional specifically because Lincoln, complete TMNT, large rosters, and indifference towards the 90s are all things that I associate in NASB's context with the toxic, over-emotional, "this is what makes sense" side of NASB discourse, which is... well, ridiculous and invalid on my part, I'll be frank - I wouldn't be surprised if I've soured someone against characters like Silver Ball or Ed Bighead in the same way, hell, I'm a former Waluigi supporter, and still like the idea, I know how guilt-by-association feels. That being said, I'm not going to stop saying I don't want Lincoln back or a complete TMNT or whatever, but you are right that maybe it's not a good idea to just respond to a post like that, which isn't a single opinion as much as a combination of many, with nothing but negativity instead of being balanced and constructive, and there were good ideas in the post, I'll admit. Luan and Luna are great choices for next immediate Louds, and I love the inclusions of Spike, Vendetta, and FBCC. I don't want to apologise because I think that's not an act to be taken lightly and done at any tiny pang of guilt, but I will say that it was wrong of me to address it in that manner.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

This is gonna be very messy and disorganised and inconsistent and... I dunno. Best to just dump everything I think.

I don't know who left the site because of me, I'd need context to truly judge (but would rather that information stay private as well, that would be best for everyone), but I do feel a little bad now you bring it up. Maybe it is wise for me to re-evaluate how I talk about things, at least in a direct person-to-person context - I'm well aware that "life's tough, grow a thick skin" mentality is toxic and terrible, and I sure as hell know I can hold some unfortunate grudges too that I need to outgrow - however, I also do think NASB speculation has historically been - at best - incoherent, and at worst based entirely in rigid patterns or desire for popularity/validation and not curiousity (and hell, that could just be an autism symptom too, so - while I stand by it in the original context relating to functions since my brain is wired to see things as functions and systems - it might have been bad to mention in relation to fan demand, since that is moreso a personality/experiences thing than the direct result of brain wiring), so I'm not gonna apologise for putting my foot down in relation to something like Lincolnposting, fan polls, or cut drama. If I do reflect and change (which I cannot ensure, as I need to evaluate these thoughts, not just act on a whim), it will only be how I act, not how I percieve things. Truthfully, I was probably getting overemotional specifically because Lincoln, complete TMNT, large rosters, and indifference towards the 90s are all things that I associate in NASB's context with the toxic, over-emotional, "this is what makes sense" side of NASB discourse, which is... well, ridiculous and invalid on my part, I'll be frank - I wouldn't be surprised if I've soured someone against characters like Silver Ball or Ed Bighead in the same way, hell, I'm a former Waluigi supporter, and still like the idea, I know how guilt-by-association feels. That being said, I'm not going to stop saying I don't want Lincoln back or a complete TMNT or whatever, but you are right that maybe it's not a good idea to just respond to a post like that, which isn't a single opinion as much as a combination of many, with nothing but negativity instead of being balanced and constructive, and there were good ideas in the post, I'll admit. Luan and Luna are great choices for next immediate Louds, and I love the inclusions of Spike, Vendetta, and FBCC. I don't want to apologise because I think that's not an act to be taken lightly and done at any tiny pang of guilt, but I will say that it was wrong of me to address it in that manner.

Very well said. I can understand where you come from and that your preferences are just that - preferences. Let me say this: I very heavily disagree with your takes. I don't know where things got so bad for you in regards to roster speculation - and I won't ask because that's your choice to share or not, but it's supposed to be light-hearted and fun, not meant to stress ourselves out over; truly it isn't that serious and I would never want you to not post what you want either - because we gotta be authentic to ourselves. As obvious as it may seem in our heads, we gotta remember that people can't read our minds. It may seem redundant to put a "in my opinion" in a sentence but a lot of people don't have it in their heads to just assume it in online discussion, they have to hear (or in this case, see) the words, that's just the way they're wired.

Good on you, dude. Let's all strive to be more constructive with our words than destructive. It's something I've been working on myself for years.

Hell, I agree with you on not wanting Lincoln back myself - though for me it's a result of having actually watched the cartoon and really despising him as a character. I agree, Luan and Luna are good choices for new reps for that series. I don't really know how you could make Spike work, but it's an interesting inclusion nonetheless. I'd love Vendetta - though I'd feel a bit conflicted over what they did to her series' creator.

 

[Inkling Man]

Everyone complains about the roster. Let's talk about the other issues with the game.

- The DLC is overpriced.

- SpongeBob gets two boss battles, Danny Phantom gets two, El Tigre gets one and TMNT gets one. That's not very good variety. They could have just picked one per series.

- The campaign's mob enemies are so poorly programmed that it's laughable.

- Why does Vlad Plasmius have a mind control device and why does Clockwork have a pocket dimension called the Timeless Stardial? They never had these things in their show AND they didn't get their original voice actors back, so why didn't the devs just create OCs that would have played the roles Vlad and Clockwork got?

- The Switch version is boarderline insufferable with its loading screens and lag.

- Each character gets one line to say to Nora Wakeman, but she gives the same response to every character and it doesn't feel coherent to any of the characters's lines.

- I did not expect Clockwork to be the final boss, but his battle theme doesn't sound like a final boss theme at all.

 

[Fields - Ultimate's Great]

Why does Vlad Plasmius have a mind control device and why does Clockwork have a pocket dimension called the Timeless Stardial? They never had these things in their show AND they didn't get their original voice actors back, so why didn't the devs just create OCs that would have played the roles Vlad and Clockwork got?

This is a nothing complaint. Original locations with pre-established characters has happened all the time and replacing them with mediocre OCs would be abhorrent and ruin an appealing part of the story. Who cares if they don't have their original VAs, lots of characters in the roster don't at this point.