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Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

Michael the Spikester

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The Loud House is closer to their Splatoon, not their Zelda. A modern hit that became a staple. But even then doing comparisons to Nintendo and their IPs miss the mark completely.

I'll be honest, if there had to be any cuts, Lincoln made sense to me to be lower priority. He was one of the least popular characters from the first game by a fairly large margin, and his show tends to fall outside the demographic of the hardcore NASB fanbase that they're likely banking on to give the game more longevity. And Lucy was just...well, leaps and bounds more popular. It also didn't help that Lincoln's moveset felt so boring and uninspired when it wasn't being just flat out disgusting.

So like...out of all the cuts, I think he's easily one of the ones that's the most justifiable.
Protagonist tho...

And no Arnold doesn't count because he hasn't been in these games to begin with and it was intentional to keep his pacificist nature. Can't compare.
 
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There's competition for that archetype with a character from Rocket Power, so she would be redundant if they went that route.
Whelp RIP Lynn Jr. as well and good because I hate her given that No Such Luck episode (Hope she gets eaten by a Gyaos. Her being chased by it as it proceeds to devour her)...

If any Loud sister at this point it'll probably be Luan or Lana. Ember already fills out Luna's archetype.
 
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Protagonist tho...

And no Arnold doesn't count because he hasn't been in these games to begin with and it was intentional to keep his pacificist nature. Can't compare.
There's never been a hard rule that the protagonist has to be first (and even then the Arnold thing is still speculation). If anything, it's a case of the opposite.

We got Hugh in the first game before Jimmy, and Nigel has been here since 1's first trailer with Eliza nowhere to be found.
 

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Whelp RIP Lynn Jr. as well and good because I hate her given that No Such Luck episode (Hope she gets eaten by a Gyaos)...

If any Loud sister at this point it'll probably be Luan or Lana. Ember already fills out Luna's archetype.
I think that we might get Clyde and he would essentially be the replacement for Lincoln, with a moveset that actually is inspired by the show itself and he'll even summon Lincoln for some of his attacks.
 

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That was because of the memes though.
How much more are you going to move the goalpost before realizing that being the protagonist isn't enough of a safety net to overcome the other issues that likely led to Lincoln being lower priority?
 

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Although TLH reps in general have very low demand. I'm not really expecting any unless Nick forces the devs to add one.
 

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Pretty sure i recall in the first game they had to fight to include Lucy in the game. So the fact that she gets to stay makes me think the dev team has favoritism towards lucy.

I chalk it up to how they approached hey Arnold. Helga was chosen over Arnold and nobody really minds. Now come NASB2 and the story flips on its head LUL
 

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It also didn't help that Lincoln's moveset felt so boring and uninspired when it wasn't being just flat out disgusting.
Ironically the moveset being bland fits with the character, who is the most boring part of his show. Well, along with his best friend.

And dear lord I am relieved that we don't have to deal with a character swinging a ****-filled diaper as a weapon, that was just wrong.
 

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I just want to point out that due to heavy reworks, most "veterans" are essentially new characters. Aang is a perfect example. They only kept two of his signature attacks (his air ball and glider) and everything else is brand new. For each of these characters, nearly every attack is a reference, yet they still tried to make it fun and cohesive from a gameplay perspective. Each character looks and plays more unique from one another compared to the first game. There's balance and variety - a lot of small touches put into this. Personally, I'm impressed. Considering the budget, dev team size, new game mode (story), mechanics, and animations, and the relatively short amount of time that went into making the game, base roster cuts are to be expected. Regardless, I know cuts suck but we have a lot of cool newcomers and alot of the returning characters will either look or feel different to play. All things considered, this a solid roster. Like, if I want to use Lincoln or whoever might not be in the base roster this time around, I'll just play the first one lol. And there's always the possibility of DLC. Let this game be its own experience because there's alot to appreciate


Anyway, I can't wait to see what they do with Korra! I wonder if she'll metalbend. And I'm hyped that Gertie uses fieworks; that's hilarious. I just posted the GIF, ahaha
 
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Ironically the moveset being bland fits with the character, who is the most boring part of his show. Well, along with his best friend.

And dear lord I am relieved that we don't have to deal with a character swinging a ****-filled diaper as a weapon, that was just wrong.
When you put it like that....yeah sounds like THAT part of the internet. So i'm glad in a way it's gone.

For gross-out humor we'll always have Ren and Stimpy
 

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I wanted to wait until Gertie's showcase to talk about her and here we are.

Honestly, while she doesn't seem as utterly insane as Hugh's moveset was, she still looks really fun and with a manic energy all her own!

I particularly liked how she has both Captain Falcon's Falcon Knee and the Shoryuken, as well as how she uses a halberd for her strong attacks. Her Down Special also looks interesting, and I like that it references the piano on the roof.

Overall, Gertie looks like a lot of fun, which is fitting considering how fun her character on the show is!
 

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Garfield is apparently one of the soonest showcases, Reptar is merely coming out "Before the game launches".
Even as a previous Reptar main, I'm gonna be bewildered if they don't fix his Down B to not be as annoying. It's like the equivalent of Smash's PK Fire: awful to fight against if you don't know how to deal with it, and still kind of awful even when you do.
 
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Anyway, I can't wait to see what they do with Korra! I wonder if she'll metalbend. And I'm hyped that Gertie uses fieworks; that's hilarious. I just posted the GIF, ahaha
I have a feeling she won't, but I guess it could be an interesting thing that adds more different from Aang. I'm so super curious how they've made her this time around :D. Probably more water bending moves anyway, if I had to guess.


btw the showcase is on youtube too:

 
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I find it strange Lucy had no problem getting into the Kart Racing games but for some reason they had to fight tooth and nail to get her in NASB?

If that was the case, why didn't they go with another Loud sis instead like Luna or Luan? Of course assuming they would had been the same as Lucy.
 

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I find it strange Lucy had no problem getting into the Kart Racing games but for some reason they had to fight tooth and nail to get her in NASB?

If that was the case, why didn't they go with another Loud sis instead like Luna or Luan? Of course assuming they would had been the same as Lucy.
I think it's the difference between driving and fighting that factored in there somewhere.
 

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I think it's the difference between driving and fighting that factored in there somewhere.
But they had no issue with Lincoln and Helga assuming the problem was "children fighting"...

Also it's not like this is Mortal Kombat or other fighting games like Street Fighter and Tekken. It's more slapstick cartoon type of fighting.
 
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Only thing I can figure is that Nick had a very specific idea of what the roster should be and Lucy just wasn't part of it.
 

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Alright new topic because I'm done with the Lincoln talk.

What unrepped Nick shows would you like to see stages from? The first game have Double dare and I feel like there's a lot of potential for more than that.

Also according to the latest leak there's more stages than characters which might mean that we'll get more stages from franchises with no character.

My pick would be the ICarly studio and the Backyard from Backyardigans. Those 2 shows will most likely have no character even with DLC.
 

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Alright new topic because I'm done with the Lincoln talk.

What unrepped Nick shows would you like to see stages from? The first game have Double dare and I feel like there's a lot of potential for more than that.

Also according to the latest leak there's more stages than characters which might mean that we'll get more stages from franchises with no character.

My pick would be the ICarly studio and the Backyard from Backyardigans. Those 2 shows will most likely have no character even with DLC.
iCarly, Guts, and Blue's Clues would all be really cool - but I would really like to see a stage based on the TV Land from the old Nick at Nite idents.
 

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Alright new topic because I'm done with the Lincoln talk.

What unrepped Nick shows would you like to see stages from? The first game have Double dare and I feel like there's a lot of potential for more than that.

Also according to the latest leak there's more stages than characters which might mean that we'll get more stages from franchises with no character.

My pick would be the ICarly studio and the Backyard from Backyardigans. Those 2 shows will most likely have no character even with DLC.
Legends of the Hidden Temple and the 90's version of Figure it Out

Good Burger or the All That backstage.

A Kids Choice Awards themed stage

Face from Nick Jr (brr buh brrrrr! hm-hm-hm!)

Something Blues Clues related.

And our dearly departed Nickelodeon Studios Florida. RIP.
 

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What I'm most curious about is just which Nick shows are the most popular, somehow with stats, not just hearsay. It'd be interesting to see a good list
 

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Alright new topic because I'm done with the Lincoln talk.

What unrepped Nick shows would you like to see stages from? The first game have Double dare and I feel like there's a lot of potential for more than that.

Also according to the latest leak there's more stages than characters which might mean that we'll get more stages from franchises with no character.

My pick would be the ICarly studio and the Backyard from Backyardigans. Those 2 shows will most likely have no character even with DLC.
1. Pig Goat Banana Cricket's Treehouse
2. Monkey Quest Temple
3. The Rocket Van riding through Podgea
4. Gullah Gullah Island

As a bonus, an original stage that features references to non-original shows that were and aired on Nick channels through the ages. I have different concepts for this idea:
  • A museum featuring stuff like a Dragon Ball, a Smurf Hat, the Power Rangers' coins, Alvin's cap, etc.
  • A vortex with floating rocks on there and in the background has elements from non-Nick series.
 
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I can't believe that of all the characters in this game, I'm most excited to try out GERTIE. Captain Falcon with Shoryu and Faust item summoning is something I didn't know I needed, but here we are. Her moveset alone brought my opinion on Gertie from "neutral" to "AMAZING." This could've easily been a horrible decision, but they implemented her in I think the best way possible.
Welcome, Grandma. Even if the haters won't accept you, you're already one of my new faves.
That was because of the memes though.
Are you saying characters can get in before the main protagonist of their series for factors unrelated to their importance in said series?
That's crazy, dude.
 
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Gonna be controversial and say that sort of thing fits Gertie much much more than it does Shaggy, who doesn't feel or act like Shaggy from Scooby Doo in the slightest besides like two moves.
What do you MEAN you don't how they turned him into le funny meme pick instead of staying true to his character traits? Come on, expecting Shaggy to act like Shaggy is a tall order!
 

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What do you MEAN you don't how they turned him into le funny meme pick instead of staying true to his character traits? Come on, expecting Shaggy to act like Shaggy is a tall order!
It'll never not be funny to me how I've met people who hate NASB for designing moves after memes yet praise MVS for how it designs its characters like it didn't reduce one of the most iconic cartoon characters ever to a caricature of a dead meme.
 
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What I'm most curious about is just which Nick shows are the most popular, somehow with stats, not just hearsay. It'd be interesting to see a good list
The thing is, it's hard to really have stats because there's no sales numbers like video game (which is why I hate when people bring stuff like "Loud house is Nick's Zelda" "No, it's more Splatoon" "No it's actually Nick's Fire emblem!"). Also TV change so much over time with streaming that it's hard to compare stats over time.

That being said, I think it's obvious that Spongebob is the biggest, followed probably by Avatar. Then Jimmy Neutron, Danny Phantom, Rugrats, Loud house and Ren & Stimpy are probably up there, but it's hard to really put them in a specific order.
 

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The thing is, it's hard to really have stats because there's no sales numbers like video game (which is why I hate when people bring stuff like "Loud house is Nick's Zelda" "No, it's more Splatoon" "No it's actually Nick's Fire emblem!"). Also TV change so much over time with streaming that it's hard to compare stats over time.

That being said, I think it's obvious that Spongebob is the biggest, followed probably by Avatar. Then Jimmy Neutron, Danny Phantom, Rugrats, Loud house and Ren & Stimpy are probably up there, but it's hard to really put them in a specific order.
It's too bad viewership stats aren't easy to get to, I know it's possible for the companies to have them though

I know fairy odd parents is in a weird spot but I'd think it's up there.
I didn't think Loud House was that popular actually, is it really
 

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Not until I saw him in 3D did I realize his body is so misshapen



  • I'ma gonna guess Donnie's super involves the Turtle Tank.
  • Zim's disguise as a move is... weird. What even would it do?
  • Sartana is a rad boss. Not a fan of SpongeBob having two though, we should get like a Teenage Robot boss and an Avatar boss to round it out.
  • If bosses are in the background, King Jellyfish may be one.
  • Don't know why that was specifically given to Gerald but it's interesting.
-Blech. Hope it's not true.
  • That's dumb. I'd rather them have done one or two extra characters with less stages. I'd be fine if some series only got one stage despite multiple characters.
  • That's disappointing, I would've liked to hear characters talk to each other. I wonder if the NPCs will even be voiced? Honestly, I doubt it.

That's assuming this is all true. Still very much an unconfirmed rumor.

...If someone has this much info why haven't they explained whether or not the Beavers are seperate or not
Some things are being chosen to be omitted

Source uhhhh nunya

Anyways new render just leaked
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Comes from same Reddit person I assume, they just posted it in Discord
Edit: Correction cause I forgot the reason this was probably shared on Discord instead is because the subreddit recently banned any campaign related leaks
 
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I didn't think Loud House was that popular actually, is it really
Nick has standards for how well new shows need to perform that's unreasonable for most. The Loud House was able to comply with them, and then some, seeing as how it not only has several seasons but two spinoffs and movies.
 

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Some things are being chosen to be omitted

Source uhhhh nunya

Anyways new render just leaked
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Comes from same Reddit person I assume, they just posted it in Discord
Wow, this fake leaker sure is good at cranking out professional-quality renders on a daily basis! :4pacman:
 
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