Nickelodeon All-Stars Brawl General Thread - All Star Brawl 2 Available Today!

[pupNapoleon]

You're intentionally trying to elongate an argument nobody cares about - or ever has for that matter. Maybe the babies will get in, they probably won't. Let's leave it at that.

I'm just showing that it already happened- there is literally no argument.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I'm just showing that it already happened- there is literally no argument.

If the case is closed, act like it.

 

[pupNapoleon]

If the case is closed, act like it.

Bro, I really don't appreciate your tone, much less the aggressive condescension- if you don't like the conversation, simply enough, you don't have to read it. There is no more conversation here.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

if there is an equivalent to Sonic being in Brawl for this game, who would that be?
in a hypothetical sense of course, not really reflective of my actual expectation

I imagine it would be a character that took a while to convince Nick to add in the game due to their relative obscurity, so probably someone like Jenny, El Tigre or a TUFF Puppy character.

You're intentionally trying to elongate an argument nobody cares about - or ever has for that matter. Maybe the babies will get in, they probably won't. Let's leave it at that.

At this stage it's best to just use the ignore function on him, did that a year or so ago.

 

[Sammerbro44]

if there is an equivalent to Sonic being in Brawl for this game, who would that be?
in a hypothetical sense of course, not really reflective of my actual expectation

I feel like a character that could theoretically fit the bill for a "Sonic" type situation is a character from the DreamWorks nicktoons (The Penguins of Madagascar, Kung Fu Panda: Legends of Awesomeness, or Monsters vs. Aliens). These shows have aired on Nickelodeon, have characters that are very recognizable, and the companies that own the properties do have ties to Nickelodeon since they were co-produced by Nickelodeon Animation Studio and Viacom owns half of each show's copyright

 

[CapitaineCrash]

I’m unsure, what’s the release window for Fall 2021 as far as game releases go? Cause when I look up when Fall 2021 ends I get December something but that doesn’t sound right

The retailer that originally leak the game had October 5th for release date. Source.

 

[FreeFox]

The retailer that originally leak the game had October 5th for release date. Source.

Cool. I am glad that the wait wont be long. And this info is great since the creators said we are getting the whole roster before release.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

The retailer that originally leak the game had October 5th for release date. Source.

If that's true, I've already preordered Nick Brawl and Monkey Ball so October 5 will be a good day for me.

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

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Hmm... (originated as a Discord theory on the All-Star Brawl server)

Oh man i never realized how much i loved Mlaatr. I loved that show as a child, and rewatching it makes me rank it really high. I think i can safely say it's my 3rd favorite Nicktoon behind Jimmy Neutron and Pre-Film Spongebob, it has already overtaken FoP to me.

Plus, she is a Swiss Knife-like character, the moveset potential for her is literally absolutely endless, and would make for a lot of visual flair to a character.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

The retailer that originally leak the game had October 5th for release date. Source.

Well, that's good to know. I had thought it'd be a tad earlier, but I guess that we'll hear the official announcement for it next month as I expected.

 

[Quick Gaming (QG)]

Combining the two discussions right now, maybe badminton is a mode and not a Jenny move? A Smashketball/Rivals of Tether/Akeana Volleyball sort of thing?

Slap City has a mode that's basketball-esque. Kind of weird they wouldn't just call it volleyball though if so, is badminton a popular sport in Sweden?

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

Which Avatar Chars would you want?
we know korra and aang are in so i put up a list of likely candidates:

he fits good in with other meme chars whole also being serious
View attachment 325526Zukops a weird case would they make him the Atla villain or would he appear as a good guy but i think he should get his evil and good version as Costumes

A fan favourite with barely any competiotion in the earthbender department

Bassically the most likely Villains

The only semi likely Koora rep whos most defining Feature is you know look at the mario galaxy logos

So i would love her to be in but yeah there is the big korra shaped Problem in the room so i think shes sadly only as likely as a korra rep

So i say if we get 3 more chars i think Zuko, Toph and Azula are my most wanted of the atla cast!

Actual footage of a Patrick player getting zero-to-death comboed by a Bloodbender

 

[Fields - Ultimate's Great]

Fully disagree.
The base game is to draw hype (and publicity) to as many people as possible- creating a base game with the widest variety of content makes sure to reach as many people as possible.
The DLC on a new game, is to continue to improve what has been established. This is the first home console Nickelodeon Brawl- it isn't at Ultimate's level. They don't have the luxury of intentionally holding off any characters at this time, because if it doesnt sell, it is significantly less likely that DLC will be greenlit. This game has to put all it can into the base roster, without intentionally holding off- short of a marketing strategy where that is solely for publicity (and from the initial games development budget- which is absolutely a possibility).

Ultimately, I think with the TMNT, it is simply coming down to a personal opinion. Some people want them all, some people don't care (or actively find it a waste). Anything past that is just searching for justification.

This game already has it's hype, having 4 TMNT doesn't make a difference at all. You are putting too much stock into hype when it was already gassed up. What defines this game is not having a ****ty roster and ****ty gameplay, both of which the turtles don't affect. This is proven when we got Nigel Thornberry, Powdered Toast Man and Oblina. Raph and Donnie in your point about the base roster fits well as it's extra characters with a lesser workload.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

I'm still just.... shocked this game exists.

Like... ****, I grew up with Nickelodeon cartoons, and as an animation enthusiast and fan of platform fighters, it's like this game was made especially for me. There's only a few characters who would genuinely make it perfect for me.

Jimmy, Timmy, Zuko, Jenny, and El Tigre - give me those, and I'd be 100% satisfied. Yeah, Toph, Rocko, Kitty, some more SpongeBob love, and the other Turtles would be great, but It's basically already hit all my nostalgia levels.

 

[pupNapoleon]

This game already has it's hype, having 4 TMNT doesn't make a difference at all. You are putting too much stock into hype when it was already gassed up. What defines this game is not having a ****ty roster and ****ty gameplay, both of which the turtles don't affect. This is proven when we got Nigel Thornberry, Powdered Toast Man and Oblina. Raph and Donnie in your point about the base roster fits well as it's extra characters with a lesser workload.

I think the fact that you can classify two characters as 'lesser workload' is exactly the same reason I say they are 'less unique.'

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

I'm still just.... shocked this game exists.

Like... ****, I grew up with Nickelodeon cartoons, and as an animation enthusiast and fan of platform fighters, it's like this game was made especially for me. There's only a few characters who would genuinely make it perfect for me.

Jimmy, Timmy, Zuko, Jenny, and El Tigre - give me those, and I'd be 100% satisfied. Yeah, Toph, Rocko, Kitty, some more SpongeBob love, and the other Turtles would be great, but It's basically already hit all my nostalgia levels.

Im not shocked this game exists, as CN already tried this years ago, so im not surprised Nick tried it as well. What i did not expect from this game is that it would be given proper treatment and respect as a Platform Fighter. Other games only nail the Crossover aspect, but never nail the gameplay polish that came with Smash, this game unironically may be better balanced and better crafted than Playstation All Stars (NAsB already has a much better roster that represents its brand) and THAT is the unltimate shocker for me. I just hope one day CN reconsiders doing the Platform Fighter formula again and gives it to a much more talented developer.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I'm still just.... shocked this game exists.

Like... ****, I grew up with Nickelodeon cartoons, and as an animation enthusiast and fan of platform fighters, it's like this game was made especially for me. There's only a few characters who would genuinely make it perfect for me.

Jimmy, Timmy, Zuko, Jenny, and El Tigre - give me those, and I'd be 100% satisfied. Yeah, Toph, Rocko, Kitty, some more SpongeBob love, and the other Turtles would be great, but It's basically already hit all my nostalgia levels.

I just hope that Nick isn't too inflexible to allow DLC for this. It'd be the best way to get most of the characters you mention.

 

[Mamboo07]

This better be Reptar's Side Smash:

(Imagine how powerful that would be)

 

[Oracle Link]

Actual footage of a Patrick player getting zero-to-death comboed by a Bloodbender

Im pretty sure they wouldnt include blood bending i mean yeah its something relativly unique to katara but the point is she doesnt want to use it!

 

[Phoenix Douchebag]

Im pretty sure they wouldnt include blood bending i mean yeah its something relativly unique to katara but the point is she doesnt want to use it!

............that was a joke.

 

[CheeseAnton]

Im pretty sure they wouldnt include blood bending i mean yeah its something relativly unique to katara but the point is she doesnt want to use it!

Who said Katara was blood bending, there's a reason why we see Spongebob in the match and not her.

 

[dlewis53]

Cool. I am glad that the wait wont be long. And this info is great since the creators said we are getting the whole roster before release.

Where did you hear that? Can I have a source/image?

Also, if this is true, did they mean the entire roster period, or just the entire starting roster when you first boot up the game?

 

[FreeFox]

Where did you hear that? Can I have a source/image?

Also, if this is true, did they mean the entire roster period, or just the entire starting roster when you first boot up the game?

I remember reading about it earlier in the topic about getting to know the full roster before release. Let me see if I can find the post...

 

[ivanlerma]

Who said Katara was blood bending, there's a reason why we see Spongebob in the match and not her.

Eyyy, Ace.

Notice your profile icon.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

if there is an equivalent to Sonic being in Brawl for this game, who would that be?
in a hypothetical sense of course, not really reflective of my actual expectation

This can mean like 4 different things, do you mean in terms of gameplay, biggest possible fan favourite, such a big deal that they're worth delaying despite how that was only because Brawl couldn't handle DLC, homogenous moveset, etc.

 

[Peepo T. Skeleton]

Eyyy, Ace.

Notice your profile icon.

Wow, I didn't expect to see two other DBD players here. Nemesis main btw

 

[Fields - Ultimate's Great]

I think the fact that you can classify two characters as 'lesser workload' is exactly the same reason I say they are 'less unique.'

They're still fan favorites and would add more than take away. They have significant history, prominence, and fans that would love to play as them.

 

[pupNapoleon]

They're still fan favorites and would add more than take away. They have significant history, prominence, and fans that would love to play as them.

Yes, that is a point of view; I'm just saying, it isn't everyone who feels that way- and plenty of people are fans of many other characters who they may prefer to see.

 

[ivanlerma]

Wow, I didn't expect to see two other DBD players here. Nemesis main btw

I'm more of a Survivor Guy, while rarely being a Murdeless Huntress.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

They're still fan favorites and would add more than take away. They have significant history, prominence, and fans that would love to play as them.

If you ask me, "fan favourite" is an argument against, not for. Why not stand out and give some love to the not-so-marketable yet still popular characters you wouldn't expect in a crossover? As long as you've got SpongeBob on the box the game's gonna sell without question.

Think of it like if Smash 64 snubbed Luigi to get Bowser, Peach, Toad, Goomba, or another Mario character who, while not the sidekick or the star of their own spin-offs, still appears a lot and has a fandom - that'd be hard to predict and really spice up the roster! In fact, Smash 64 literally did that by opting for Puff over Mewtwo or Charizard!

 

[CheeseAnton]

Spoiler: Off-Topic DBD Stuff

Wow, I didn't expect to see two other DBD players here. Nemesis main btw

Survivor main (I main Ace, Bill, Dwight, Claudette, and Yui, all of which I also have P3'd because I spent too much time in game), but when I play Killer I play Doctor or Oni.

Which Avatar Chars would you want?

Personally, Toph because from what I remember Aang and Korra don't know Metal Bending (haven't gotten far enough in TLOK to see if Korra learns it) and Earthbending seems like the least use Element from them (Aang had the hardest time learning Earth so out of the elements he's weakest at it, and from what I remember Korra mainly uses Water and Fire bending). Toph literally invented Metal Bending and taught the Avatar Earthbending so she'd be the most different from the Avatars than Zuko or Katara imo.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Honestly, I just want an Avatar platform fighting game. There are too many good characters.
All 6 in Team Avatar, All 4 in new Team Avatar, All 5 of the White Lotus, all 4 of the Red Lotus, All 3 of Azula's gang, The other villains (Avatar, Korra seasons 1,2,4)...not even getting into other potentials- Spirits, Animals, Jet, the Dai Li, Blue Spirit, etc.

 

[BonafideFella]

This can mean like 4 different things, do you mean in terms of gameplay, biggest possible fan favourite, such a big deal that they're worth delaying despite how that was only because Brawl couldn't handle DLC, homogenous moveset, etc.

I mean a character that was, in part, defined by being counter to Nickelodeon, although any of the other options can do too
I just like making conversation

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

I mean a character that was, in part, defined by being counter to Nickelodeon, although any of the other options can do too
I just like making conversation

Hmm... that would likely be a CN or non-Doug Disney rep.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

If you ask me, "fan favourite" is an argument against, not for. Why not stand out and give some love to the not-so-marketable yet still popular characters you wouldn't expect in a crossover? As long as you've got SpongeBob on the box the game's gonna sell without question.

Think of it like if Smash 64 snubbed Luigi to get Bowser, Peach, Toad, Goomba, or another Mario character who, while not the sidekick or the star of their own spin-offs, still appears a lot and has a fandom - that'd be hard to predict and really spice up the roster! In fact, Smash 64 literally did that by opting for Puff over Mewtwo or Charizard!

That's pretty much what Ludosity is trying to do as they negotiate with Nick; the latter are apparently lacking in so much imagination that they're most likely thinking of the next game to sell next year. Under those circumstances, even Garfield would be a far shot.

But yeah, I feel like I'm one of the only people in here that want Kitty and Daggett (technically a co-star, but still). Hell, Powdered Toast Man is already an interesting addition by himself since he makes sense in retrospect, even if he got in before Ren and Stimpy.

 

[BonafideFella]

Hmm... that would likely be a CN or non-Doug Disney rep.

here’s my pull.
bone from boneville.
Nickelodeon was gonna adapt the books than never did and it’s been squandering in development hell ever since.
though maybe it’s just because bone has radical pull potential, I wouldn’t know

 

[Fields - Ultimate's Great]

If you ask me, "fan favourite" is an argument against, not for. Why not stand out and give some love to the not-so-marketable yet still popular characters you wouldn't expect in a crossover? As long as you've got SpongeBob on the box the game's gonna sell without question.

Think of it like if Smash 64 snubbed Luigi to get Bowser, Peach, Toad, Goomba, or another Mario character who, while not the sidekick or the star of their own spin-offs, still appears a lot and has a fandom - that'd be hard to predict and really spice up the roster! In fact, Smash 64 literally did that by opting for Puff over Mewtwo or Charizard!

Your argument falls flat as Jigglypuff only got in because she was easier to make than Charizard and Mewtwo. She shared a model with Kirby to base off of, it's why she kept coming back too, she showed up last second in Brawl.

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It's a similar case for Raph and Donnie as they would be easier to make while still having potential. This game already stands out anyway by having Nigel, Oblina, and Powdered Toast Man. Along with choosing classics people like rather than snubbing them for modern shows. Not every choice needs to match what you personally feel or many chars people love more wouldn't show up at all for the sake of random shockvalue. Which would be stupid.

What next? Should we get rid of Danny Phantom for a more obscure choice just because it'd be harder to predict?

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

I don't think there has been a single game where less than all four of the turtles were playable. Not even Injustice or Brawlhalla, where they were actual guest characters, split them up. I don't think we would really be discussing this, except that they chose to reveal two of the turtles first. Most likely just because they didn't want to overload the first trailer with turtles.

 

[ivanlerma]

Spoiler: Off-Topic DBD Stuff

Survivor main (I main Ace, Bill, Dwight, Claudette, and Yui, all of which I also have P3'd because I spent too much time in game), but when I play Killer I play Doctor or Oni.

Personally, Toph because from what I remember Aang and Korra don't know Metal Bending (haven't gotten far enough in TLOK to see if Korra learns it) and Earthbending seems like the least use Element from them (Aang had the hardest time learning Earth so out of the elements he's weakest at it, and from what I remember Korra mainly uses Water and Fire bending). Toph literally invented Metal Bending and taught the Avatar Earthbending so she'd be the most different from the Avatars than Zuko or Katara imo.

Spoiler: Unrelated DBD Content.

I mostly play a lot of Jake, Claudette, Feng Min, Bill, & Yui

 

[Fields - Ultimate's Great]

Not having the 4 turtles will be dumb. It's not like there's a bunch of competition they HAVE to prioritize immediately anyway. This game is heavy in nostalgia so that already dismisses a lot of potential reps from the late 2010s. It doesn't help how Nick wants to ignore stuff like Fanboy and Chum Chum. And many good cartoons that'd have a good shot are no longer in Nick's hands (Doug, Penguins of Madagascar, Kung Fu Panda).