What? OS, you say you agree with what Xonar said, but in the post before it, you shoot down Nick's plan. Xonar's point of his post was attacking TPK for.. shooting down Nick's plan. The same thing you did. Contradictory?
No. I think I was clear with why I put a FoS, and an overall agreement with Xonar that TPK is acting iffy.
Knowing what a player thinks is crucial towards scumhunting. If someone is constantly withholding information on their opinion, they probably have a reason. That reason is usually that they're too cautious to give their opinion in fear of being attacked or that they don't have an opinion. Scum, even though they know that the player they're talking about is town (unless they're indy), have to choose whether they want to make the leap and call the person scum, or hold back. Nick only asked for opinions from people of a yes or no question on whether or not they think cello is scummy. I don't see the problem.
Knowing what a player thinks is great and all, but information changes. Worse still, the only people that can be punished for this information would be... town. No one with half a brain is going to say "omg he's scum" this early on and be expected to stick to it. It's why making a scum list is dumb. It does nothing but give people targets and freak some people the hell out.
Why don't we just say "hey everyone, make a list 1-15 of most scummy to least scummy" and go from there? Because it's dumb and doesn't do any good. Trying to make everyone give concrete stances on a guy for one mess up is a dangerous play this early in the game. It's more worthwhile to ask peopel individually based on what they say. He can ask ME what I think about it because I've commented, or he can ask someone else that hasn't and get an "I don't know", but asking everyone and expecting something substantial is silly.
You're wrong. Your example information does nothing to help town. How could the information he asked for be harmful to town moreso than it would harm mafia? You're suggesting that we keep quiet about Cello opinions. That's what's going to harm town, since it will give us too little information to scumhunt with (not just on who people think are mafia, but also who people think are town, based on their opinions on the person's viewpoint of Cello), leading town in the wrong direction.
Not quiet, just not Nicholas making a list of his own interpretation of what we think.
Hilt - I think it was Cello trying to jump into things way too fast. I found the last part about him offering to hold onto the dragonballs scummy, but the rest just seemed like him going at things wrong. I don't like the idea of publicly controlling what all of us as a whole do, search/train wise (not that he was trying himself to, but suggesting the idea of it), and while it could have been done with scum intentions, it doesn't necessarily mean so. I'll be watching him more.
Cool story bro. Way to say "I dunno" in a paragraph while simultaneously making an effort only to piggyback on things already said. You didn't like the idea of him holding on the dragonballs scummy? Welcome to the party.
See OS? How does that harm town? I know I'm town, so when it comes to who I think is scummy or not, I have nothing to hide. Why do you? If it were your opinions on every single person, that I can understand, as it gives mafia a better pool to work with. But this isn't the case. But no, you don't have to tell anyone what you think about anyone if you don't want to, haha. Or if you think there's a good reason for you not to. Just don't expect to pass under any radars if you keep to yourself too much
I'm gonna go ahead and throw out the fact that I'm not exactly "flying under the radar"; if anyone is, its you. That's kinda what you DO in mafia games
I'll say things when I need to and keep them to myself when I shouldn't, but I'm not going to have Nicholas put things into my (or anyone else's) mouth.
If you want to waste a bunch of time with something like that, cool. I'm not going to. What he's gonna give us from that will be... less than adequate. Especially at this stage in the game. It'd give us nothing.
You wanna do something useful? Ask specific questions to specific individuals and let other people naturally come in or out of the discussion. See who's inactive, see who is distancing themselves, see who is pairing up. None of this list crap.
Vote: Gheb
Have you said a word since the game started? Would like to hear a bit more from you.
Good job voting for a replacement.
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