Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[GoldenYuiitusin]

I once had a website related smash dream but it never came true. First the wonderful 101 landed on a Nintendoland stage and then I saw wonder red’s newcomer banner on the smash 4 site

I can top that.

Before he was shown to be an Assist, I drempt a whole-ass trailer for Dillon, being in the rustic sepia artstyle and narrated by goddamn Sam Elliott.
Dillon was just sitting in a saloon and confronted by Mario and Co., which Dillon promptly showed them up.
I remember seeing some "gameplay" too, with for example a Down Smash being rolling in a full donut around the Z-Axis. The ending portion being Mario, DK, etc. all knocked out as Dillon tipped his hat and walked out.
And I never played a Rolling Western.

 

[Noipoi]

I will say that in late 2018/early 2019 I was one of the only guys on this website calling some form of significant Undertale content for Ultimate.

They called me a madman...until

 

[cashregister9]

The only somewhat prophetic smash dream I had was a daydream the day of the final Smash Ultimate direct, I couldn't watch it till the afternoon and I didn't get spoiled at the time, so I thought "hey wouldn't it be cool if A!Tiki from Fire Emblem would get in and have Y!Tiki as an Echo?"

and Tiki was then revealed as an assist in the direct.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

Ooh, AC and Uncharted. Those are good ones.

Realistically, anyone that's had a live-action TV series or hollywood movie is probably iconic enough for Smash.

The time has finally come for a Rampage character

 

[Wonder Smash]

Alright. Well, I disagree.

Originally I was going to say that gives me a better idea of where you're coming from, but I actually learned a lot more from all that happened afterwards.

I have no problem with you disagreeing. That's normal. People do that all the time.

Let's change the subject. Who wants to hear of random Smash related dreams I've had over the years that range from prophetic ( ) to bizarre?

Years ago when Brawl was coming out, I did have a dream that Mickey Mouse, as his Kingdom Hearts version, and Link were fighting a huge, dark enemy that look like a Heartless.

Now in Ultimate, we have Kingdom Hearts content and Link in game.

 

[CannonStreak]

The time has finally come for a Rampage characterView attachment 387638

You know Doshin the Giant? It would be funny if we had Doshin and one of the characters from Rampage put into a Smash Bros. game, made to be around the same size, and fight each other in such a Smash Bros. game.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Before Ultimate was officially revealed or even teased, one dream was for a Switch port for For, which combined content from both 3DS and Wii U, with a big draw being two reveals that would be "impossible" on a 3DS.
One was the Ice Climbers returning (which is hardly prophetic since it was obvious they'd return in the future), and the other was....Greymon. With the draw that he could become MetalGreymon in the fight through unknown means (would've been revealed later if real probably). No sign of Agumon.

But that's not the only thing; on the "website" for it showed another new character that wasn't shown in the initial reveal, Dante. And this was before DMCV was announced or Dante becoming a big name in Smash speculation, so it was definitely more random.


And this ends the "reasonable" ones.
The last two are completely out there.

 

[Nabbitfan730]

I don't really do dreams much and even if they were, it wouldn't about Smash of all things. Weird i say

Also. Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

 

[Noipoi]

I don't really do dreams much and even if they were, it wouldn't about Smash of all things. Weird i say

Also. Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

Eh, not that weird. For more frequent dreamers you can dream about literally anything. Especially stuff you think about a lot. And if you’re a smash fan who spends a lot of time on speculation, it makes sense that some of that speculation might seep into your dreams.

 

[KingofPhantoms]

Let's change the subject. Who wants to hear of random Smash related dreams I've had over the years that range from prophetic ( ) to bizarre?

Some time after the Pyrosphere stage was revealed but before Ridley was revealed to be a boss again, I had a dream where the final roster for Smash 4 included Ridley and King K. Rool.

And more notably Chunky Kong.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

I had a weird dream during the Pre-Brawl era.

For some reason, the only characters in the game were Mario, Pikachu, Link and Kirby. That's it. No other vets. No newcomers. The only stage was Battlefield.

I was pretty bummed in my dream.

 

[CapitaineCrash]

Not long after the Mercedes Benz crossover was announced in Mario kart 8, I dreamed that Smash bros added Nidoking in a Mercedes for some reason. This is still a inside joke in my friends group to this day.

 

[Noipoi]

I had a weird dream during the Pre-Brawl era.

For some reason, the only characters in the game were Mario, Pikachu, Link and Kirby. That's it. No other vets. No newcomers. The only stage was Battlefield.

I was pretty bummed in my dream.

You were really just having a psychic vision of the reveal trailer

 

[DarthEnderX]

The time has finally come for a Rampage character

Too big for Smash.

 

[Perkilator]

Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

1. Flower Kingdom
2. Ferenia
3. Waddle Dee Town
4. Transient Temple
5. Egg Planet Park

 

[Noipoi]

Also. Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

Flower Kingdom
Alivel Mall
Area Zero
A proper Bowser’s Castle
Bramble Scramble

 

[DarthEnderX]

Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

Battleship Dodriguez [Contra]
Graveyard [Ghosts 'n Goblins]
Millennium Tower Rooftop [Like A Dragon]
The Village [Resident Evil]
Courtroom [Ace Attorney]

 

[Wonder Smash]

I don't really do dreams much and even if they were, it wouldn't about Smash of all things. Weird i say

Also. Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

1. Mushroom Kingdom 3 (Super Mario Bros. 3)
2. Dream Land NES (Kirby's Adventure)
3. Sky City Tokyo (Ninja Gaiden 2)
4. Reiho Academy (River City Ransom)
5. City Streets (Double Dragon)

Battleship Dodriguez [Contra]
Graveyard [Ghosts 'n Goblins]
Millennium Tower Rooftop [Like A Dragon]
The Village [Resident Evil]
Courtroom [Ace Attorney]

You know, I've always had a problem figuring out a good stage for Contra.

 

[DarthEnderX]

You know, I've always had a problem figuring out a good stage for Contra.

It's basically like Big Blue, but with more verticality.

4. Reiho Academy (River City Ransom)

Ooh, yeah. Particularly the rooftop.

 

[GoldenYuiitusin]

Some time after the Pyrosphere stage was revealed but before Ridley was revealed to be a boss again, I had a dream where the final roster for Smash 4 included Ridley and King K. Rool.

And more notably Chunky Kong.

And then we got Chunky as an Assist.

....wait.

 

[Arcanir]

Considering they're bird people, would that make her more muscular, or less?

Surprisingly more, Raven Beak and the Mawkin aren't that skinny.

Also. Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

Area Zero (Pokemon SV)
Sylvalum (Xenoblade Chronicles X)
Ancestral Steppe (MH4)
Ferenia (Metroid Dread)
The Flying Kroc (DKC2)

 

[Ivander]

Also. Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

Ultra Space - Pokemon Sun and Moon
Ferenia - Metroid Dread
The Citadel - Monster Hunter Rise Sunbreak
The Realm of Nidavellir - Fire Emblem Heroes
Chemical Plant Zone - Sonic the Hedgehog

 

[ScrubReborn]

Let's change the subject. Who wants to hear of random Smash related dreams I've had over the years that range from prophetic ( ) to bizarre?

Wow crazy timing, I had my first Smash dream two nights ago. Jigglypuff came into my room when I was sleeping (with some other Smash characters, including Wolf, Incineroar, Corrin, Young Link, other "likely cuts". Took me a while to remember them 'cause they didn't interact with me). Jiggs Pounded® my door down and floated in my face. I think she had a Ray Gun too.

She said something about "the cut army" and how she and some other Smashers were fighting to avoid getting cut in Smash 6 (heavily paraphrasing). The one line I remember clearly is her saying "That's Smash 6's gimmick! Nobody is Here!" at one point. Then I looked out the window and saw a giant army of Primids marching at my house.

Sakurai was there too and I don't remember too good, but I think he might have had a ****ing Death Note lol. I bet it was his priority list. I think he mighta been the Primid's leader. I think more stuff happened in it but I don't remember anything else. Call me crazy but I think my mind just leaked Smash 6's story mode.

 

[Jave]

Re: Top 5 Wanted Stages:

• Bowser's Castle (Super Mario)
• The Courtroom (Ace Attorney)
• Puyo Stadium (Puyo Puyo)
• The Somniel (Fire Emblem Engage)
• A stage based on A Link To The Past that switches between Light and Dark World.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Also. Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

• Bowser's Castle(not a minor reference like we had with the Paper Mario stage, but a specific design from the core Super Mario series).
• Any stage from Quest 64(for obvious reasons, lol)
• Westopolis or Lethal Highway(Shadow the Hedgehog. Same locations overall, but very different in how they work. Most memorable levels... but for the wrong reasons)
• The Pit(Mortal Kombat)
• Anything from Killer Instinct(I really don't play often enough anymore to remember the locales. It's just the characters that are memorable to me)

 

[Lionfranky]

If I may add, that power suit does look heavy, but if I recall; Samus did all her training on a planet that has over 900 times that of Earth's gravity. With that, that should be enough for her to move in a heavy suit like the Power Suit. So, I think that adds more to her using her muscles for acrobatics, even inside the Power Suit.

Wasn't that debunked?

 

[Laniv]

I don't really do dreams much and even if they were, it wouldn't about Smash of all things. Weird i say

Also. Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

1. Bowser's Castle (Weird how we haven't gotten this one yet)
2. Gangplank Galleon
3. Lor Starcutter (a touring stage, traveling around different RTDL locations)
4. Blizzard on the Star Express (I do like a good train stage)
5. Bomb Factory Maze (for Bomberman. Oh, these aren't homemade, they were made in a factory. A bomb factory. They're bombs.)

 

[Wonder Smash]

I also wouldn't mind seeing stages from games like Urban Champion and Super Scope 6.

 

[ninjahmos]

I don't really do dreams much and even if they were, it wouldn't about Smash of all things. Weird i say

Also. Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

OK, this is gonna be pretty tough.

1. Bowser's Castle
2. Gangplank Galleon
3. Flying Battery Zone
4. Haunted Graveyard
5. Clock Tower

 

[ScrubReborn]

I also wouldn't mind seeing stages from games like Urban Champion and Super Scope 6.

I'm a lil suprised we haven't seen a Urban Champion stage yet. It practically writes itself. Just have the stage be a long street where we can fight like real men while random people drop flowerpots on the fighters. Immediate banger stage there.

 

[ninjahmos]

If we get a Bowser's Castle stage for Smash, it should include new remixes of the SMB1 Castle Theme, SMB All-Stars Bowser's Theme, Koopa's Road, SM64 Bowser's Theme, etc.

 

[Capybara Gaming]

Gah I know I've brought it up before but it genuinely bothers me about some of the last spirits not having their series name. Noah & Mio is the worst being that it's literally a Nintendo series, but Zagreus and the 13 Sentinel Pilots are annoying too.

I can't tell if there's ratings mumbo jumbo, the team making the fights just got lazy, or what.

 

[Godzillathewonderdog]

I don't really do dreams much and even if they were, it wouldn't about Smash of all things. Weird i say

Also. Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

Some stages I could see being added to the next Smash game include
Bowser’s Castle (Super Mario Bros. series)
Flower Kingdom (Super Mario Bros. Wonder)
Sparkle Theatre (Princess Peach Showtime)
Paranormal Productions (Luigi’s Mansion 3)
Yoshi’s Crafted World (Yoshi’s Crafter World)
Warioware, Inc. 2 (Warioware series)
Homecoming Hijinxs (Tropical Freeze)
Gangplank Galleon (Donkey Kong Country 2)
The Depths (Tears of the Kingdom)
Koholint Island (Link’s Awakening)
Hero’s Hideaway (Pikmin 4)
Ferenia (Metroid Dread)
Alivil Mall (Kirby and the Forgotten Land)
Pokémon League (Pokémon Sword & Shield)
Alabastar Icelands (Pokémon Legends: Arceus)
Paldea (Pokémon Scarlet & Violet)
Sand Ocean (F-Zero series)
The Underworld (Kid Icarus series)
Dodo Airlines (Animal Crossing: New Horizons)
Museum (Animal Crossing series)
Mako Mart (Splatoon 2)
Scorch Gorge (Splatoon 3)
Cruise Ship (Bayonetta 3)
Chemical Plant Zone (Sonic the Hedgehog 2)
Transient Temple (Ring Fit Adventure)
The Ark (Astral Chain)
Somewhere from Xenoblade Chronicles 3 and Fire Emblem Engage

 

[fogbadge]

I can top that.

Before he was shown to be an Assist, I drempt a whole-ass trailer for Dillon, being in the rustic sepia artstyle and narrated by goddamn Sam Elliott.
Dillon was just sitting in a saloon and confronted by Mario and Co., which Dillon promptly showed them up.
I remember seeing some "gameplay" too, with for example a Down Smash being rolling in a full donut around the Z-Axis. The ending portion being Mario, DK, etc. all knocked out as Dillon tipped his hat and walked out.
And I never played a Rolling Western.

well that certainly tops mine with thowmp and a bulborb being revealed as ultimate dlc

 

[Stratos]

Whatever stage there is I'm fine.

 

[chinkuru]

I don't really do dreams much and even if they were, it wouldn't about Smash of all things. Weird i say

Also. Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

-Virtual Boy Wario land
-Smash Bros 64 Bedroom
-Mission One stage (Metal Slug)
-Digimon Cage
-Game Boy camera stage

Other I want: Bowser Castle, Gangplank Galleon, Clock Town, Murasame Castle, Venus Lighthouse, Donkey Kong 2 stage, Mushroom Kingdom 3, Urban Fighters stage, Star Fox stage from the SNES game, Courtroom

 

[Gengar84]

I don't really do dreams much and even if they were, it wouldn't about Smash of all things. Weird i say

Also. Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

There’s a lot of potentially fun stages we could add but here are five of mine I’d love to see:

Hornet Hole (Donkey Kong Country 2)
Chemical Plant Zone (Sonic 2)
Bowser’s Castle (Super Mario)
Central Highway (Mega Man X)
Khaos Mountains (Battletoads in Battlemaniacs)

You know, I've always had a problem figuring out a good stage for Contra.

I think there a lot of great options for Contra stages but I’d personall go with the opening stage from Contra 1 (Jungle) or Contra 3 (City). I think both locations would be really unique compared to everything else in Smash and have very interesting stage elements you could play with. I made a Contra 3 City stage in Stage Builder that I’m pretty happy with. The left half of the stage is a normal cityscape with standard platforming but the right half is the section after the stage is set on fire with crumbled pillars for platforms and rising fire pillars.

 

[UserKev]

Also. Top 5 Stages you'll like to see in the next Smash anyone?

Water World - Mario
Grassland Groove - DK
Samus Ship
Castle Dedede - Kirby
Cave of The Past - Earthbound

 

[Wonder Smash]

I think there a lot of great options for Contra stages but I’d personall go with the opening stage from Contra 1 (Jungle) or Contra 3 (City). I think both locations would be really unique compared to everything else in Smash and have very interesting stage elements you could play with. I made a Contra 3 City stage in Stage Builder that I’m pretty happy with. The left half of the stage is a normal cityscape with standard platforming but the right half is the section after the stage is set on fire with crumbled pillars for platforms and rising fire pillars.

If Bill and Lance do get in, I expect the stage to be from the first Contra game. I'm just wondering what a good layout would be like.

The only thing I can think up is something similar to Gaur Plain with the Gromaides guarding an entrance in the background.

 

[CannonStreak]

Wasn't that debunked?

Okay, one, that is a fan take, not official stuff. Secondly, you can't use science to try to solve things in fiction, as the physics of fiction and reality and reality's science are different.

In other words, might as well just go with it.