Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[TCT~Phantom]

Most wanted time? Sure

1. Spyro
2. Heavy
3. Crash
4. Neku
5. Isaac
6. Adol
7. Officer Howard
8. Noah and Mio
9. Demon King Ganondorf
10. Master Chief

HM: Dr Eggman, Meowscarada, a Resident Evil protagonist, Riku, Crono, Alis Landale, Ryu Hayabusa, King Boo, Skull Kid, Raven Beak, Lyn, as for echoes you have Shadow, Roxas, Dixie Kong, Funky Kong, Proto Man, Zack, Big Boss, and Galacta Knight

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

1. Dixie Kong
2. Bandana Waddle Dee
3. Geno/Mallow
4. Bomberman
5. Wonder Boy/Jin
6. Amaterasu
7. Impa
8. Crash Bandicoot
9. Claire Redfield/Leon Kennedy/Jill Valentine/Chris Redfield
10. Terra Branford

 

[Sucumbio]

1. Rygar
2. Alucard
3. Waluigi
4. BWD
5. Master Chief
6. Toad
7. Alear
8. Meowscarda
9. Raven Beak
10. Kefka

 

[Soy_Man]

10. Master Chief
9. Phoenix Wright
8. Zero
7. Knuckles
6. Chun-Li
5. KOS-MOS
4. Alucard
3. Demi-Fiend
2. Soldier TF2 (never gonna happen)
1. Aigis

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Top 10 time? Sure. But I don't really wanna make it ordered because it'll take forever for me to rank them.

• Literally anyone from Mortal Kombat
• Literally anyone from Sonic other than Classic Sonic
• Nightmare (Soulcalibur)
• Demon King Ganondorf (TotK)
• Alear (Fire Emblem)
• Shez (also Fire Emblem because yes, two of my 10 most wanteds are "anime swordspeople")
• Octoling (Splatoon)
• Raven Beak (Metroid)
• Tom Nook (Animal Crossing)
• Shovel Knight

 

[fogbadge]

Well I guess I’ll throw a top 10 out as well

1: Toad/Toadette
2: Chibi-Robo

the rest aren’t ordered and subject to change

Tails
Bandanna Dee
Octoling
Layton
Impa (or nearly any loz character)
Nate or Jibanyan
Rex
Noah

 

[chocolatejr9]

Dang, I'm not good at these "Top 10 Most Wanted"s, so I'm just gonna list a bunch that come to my head:

• Bandana Waddle Dee
• Monokuma and/or a "Danganronpa protagonist" character
• Billy Hatcher
• Adol Christin
• Sol Badguy and/or Ragna the Bloodedge
• Eudan
• Edelgard
• Rex and/or Noah
• Freddy Fazbear and/or Bendy (yes, really)
• Crash Bandicoot and/or Spyro

Honorable mentions: Elma, Ayumi Tachibana, Goku from Yuyuki, Nestor/Kevin Keene (the only non-video game reps I'm willing to entertain).

 

[CannonStreak]

My list is...

1. Crash Bandicoot
2. Spyro
3. Geno
4. Captain Syrup
5. Wart (from Super Mario Bros 2/Doki Doki Panic
6. Dixie Kong
7. Bandana Waddle Dee
8. Dr. Eggman
9. Rayman
10. Bomberman

 

[Wonder Smash]

Still these guys for me.

 

[Oracle Link]

So as of right now this is my top ten most wanted characters, my opinions are very fluctuating though so this is just for fun.
Only rules are no 4th Party, if I’m thinking of a duo type of character I just pick the one I want more, and im trying to be somewhat reasonable with these.
10. Dr. Eggman (Sonic The Hedgehog)
9. Birdetta/Birdo (Super Mario)
8. Setro/Warrior Of Light (Final Fantasy)
7. Mallow (Super Mario RPG)
6. Paper Mario (Paper Mario)
5. Red (Angry Birds)
4. Rayman (Rayman)
3. Tails The Fox (Sonic The Hedgehog)
2. Shadow The Hedgehog (Sonic The Hedgehog)
1. Demifiend (Shin Megami Tensei)
Any thoughts?

I think they retconned that birdo wants to be called birdetta yes shes still trans I think?
But i think Birdo is now her prefered name!

Spoiler: Weird tangent

Also i just noticed something? So birdo is bioologically male right (Its stated she started wearing a ribbon) and all yoshis can lay eggs so im sure using eggs as weapons isnt something looked to biological female dino creatures!

 

[Laniv]

Top 10? Okay then

1. Toad
2. Dixie Kong
3. Tom Nook
4. Tails
5. Bandana Dee
6. King Boo
7. Bomberman
8. Pauline
9. Mona
10. Tiki

Honorable mentions go to Pig Ganon, Magolor, Genesect, Octoling, Isaac and Cranky Kong

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Top 10;

Brian
Toad
Shadow
Isaac
Impa(Oracle games version)
Dixie Kong
Fulgore
Scorpion
Agumon
Master Chief

Some contenders; Hector, Black Knight, ToyAgumon, Cranky Kong, Sub-Zero, Metal Sonic, Pig Ganon, Genesect, Octoling, Ashley, Bandanna Waddle Dee, Waluigi, Samurai Goroh, Tingle

 

[Stratos]

Top 10:

Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden series)
Jin Kazama (Tekken series)
Alexandra Roivas (Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem)
John Raimi (Geist)
Professor Hershel Layton (Professor Layton series)
Takamaru (The Mysterious Murasame Castle)
Black Shadow (F-Zero series)
Medusa (Kid Icarus series)
Saki Amamiya (Sin and Punishment: Successor of the Earth)
Black Panther (not the Marvel superhero, the cybernetic Black Panther from Konami's arcade video game 'Black Panther')

For those who don't know about Black Panther who I mean, below is his picture:

 

[Gengar84]

It’s hard to narrow down my most wanted to a consistent top 10 since I like so many characters but here’s what I’m thinking right now.

1. Rash/Pimple/Zitz (Battletoads)
2. Magus (Chrono Trigger)
3. Zegram Ghart (Rogue Galaxy)
4. Illidan Stormrage (WarCraft)
5. Fulgore (Killer Instinct)
6. Sarah Kerrigan (StarCraft)
7. Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat)
8. Lu Bu (Dynasty Warriors)
9. Zero (Mega Man X)
10. Bill Rizer/Lance Bean (Contra)

 

[Diddy Kong]

1. Dixie Kong
2. Impa
3. Isaac
4. Demon King Ganondorf
5. Cranky Kong
6. Toad
7. Monster Hunter
8. Noah
9. Rex
10. Raven Beak

 

[ShotoStar]

We're doing our top 10 most wanted newcomers? Well, I only really have two that I'm honed in on right now.
So, I'll add the stipulation that I have to make it even between first and third party characters. 5 characters for each.

1- Beatrice (From; Umineko: no Naku Koro ni) (3rd party)
2- Geno (From; Super Mario RPG) (3rd party)
3- Rhythm Reporter (From; Rhythm Heaven) (1st party)
4- Kyle Hyde (From; Hotel Dusk) (1st party)
5- Reimu Hakurei (From; Touhou) (3rd party)
6- Sol Badguy (From; Guilty Gear) (3rd party)
7- Arle Nadja (From; Puyo Puyo) (3rd party)
8- Isaac (From; Golden Sun) (1st party)
9- Magolor (From; Kirby Return to Dream Land) (1st party)
10- Muddy Mole (From; Mole Mania) (1st party)

It's basically just my two wanteds plus eight characters I think would be cool for one reason or another (Oddball pick/Fun Moveset/Banger additional content/etc.)

 

[dezeray112]

My top 10 most wanted newcomer characters (in no particular order)

1. Chun-Li (Street Fighter)
2. Sol Badguy (Guilty Gear)
3. Urban Champion (Urban Champion)
4. Mach Rider (Mach Rider)
5. Hershal Layton (Professor Layton)
6. Isaac (Golden Sun)
7. Someone from F-Zero (Mainly Black Shadow)
8. Tidus (Final Fantasy X)
9. Rock Howard (Garou: Mark of the Wolves)
10. Tulin (Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom)

 

[Hadokeyblade]

If were going full 10 these are mine in no particular order.

Phoenix wright (Ace Attorney)
Ryunosuke Naruhodo (The Great Ace Attorney)
Isaac (Golden Sun)
Andy (Advance Wars)
Cybuster (Super robot wars)
Megaman.EXE (Megaman Battle network)
Chun-Li (Street fighter)
Kazuma Kiryu (Yakuza)
Hershell Layton (Professor Layton)
Agumon (Digimon)

I really like Capcom franchises in case it isnt obvious.
Pretty much any mainstream character i could want is already in smash bros, this list is comprised of more niche stuff and series i got into after Ultimate was released.

 

[fogbadge]

it's nice to see quite a few shout outs to layton

 

[ARandomFruit]

I decided to split my list up into first and third parties.

Spoiler: 1st party

Spoiler: 3rd party

 

[Will]

I only have a Top 3. I would be satisfied if any of these three made it in the next installment.

1. Waluigi
2. Scorpion
3. Travis Touchdown

 

[SPEN18]

I’m happy that Advance Wars got a new title

Yeah, me, too.
Though I still hope for a brand new game (i.e. not a remake) to come after at some point.
Hopefully all the delays didn't hurt the current release enough to discourage them. It remains to be seen if WayForward both wants to do and would be allowed by IS to do a non-remake.

I think that as far as AW in Smash goes, a continuation of the series beyond the remake would probably be necessary in order to get a PC. But if we do get a new release then AW could be in a stronger position than ever before.

 

[Super Devon]

I don't really have a most wanted newcomer list for the next game, I had 5 for Ultimate, but 3 of them became reality

here was my most wanted for Ultimate
1: Tekken rep
2: Tails
3: Sora
4: Ken
5: Crash Bandicoot

The only things I really want in the next game, DLC or not, is Tails and the return of Kazuya, nothing else really matters to me.

 

[DemifiendEnjoyer]

Provided that they both return, I really hope Alph gets his own slot seperate from Olimar.

 

[chinkuru]

My top ten:
1. Tingle
2. Agumon
3. Marco Rossi
4. Takamaru
5. Isaac
6. Skull Kid
7. Toad
8. Meowth
9. Toon Nook
10. Crash

 

[MasterCheef]

1. , Ahri & Arcane Jinx = 1 slot for both characters
Master Chief
Elysium , ( SoulCalibur )
Noah
Mio
Impa

 

[Perkilator]

Provided that they both return, I really hope Alph gets his own slot seperate from Olimar.

He really should've, from the beginning.

 

[JOJONumber691]

How about you just cut Both and double the Pikmin Stage Count.

 

[Pupp135]

To be honest, the only characters that I’d want are Tidus and Isaac, but any character at this point would be cool to see.

 

[Perkilator]

If Paper Mario was in Smash, ideally I would want to take elements from all the games rather than choose one basis over the other (even though Nintendo would probably want to use the later games as a basis, but that’s besides the point).

 

[Soy_Man]

He really should've, from the beginning.

y tho?

 

[Perkilator]

y tho?

The plan was for Alph to be a separate character in Smash 4 who used Rock Pikmin in his moveset. I’m just sad that Alph was reduced to an alt for Olimar, because I could totally see Alph being an Echo Fighter of Olimar who uses a single Rock Pikmin (and just the one, instead of three Pikmin) that weighs as much as three Pikmin for Olimar.

 

[Sucumbio]

The plan was for Alph to be a separate character in Smash 4 who used Rock Pikmin in his moveset. I’m just sad that Alph was reduced to an alt for Olimar, because I could totally see Alph being an Echo Fighter of Olimar who uses a single Rock Pikmin (and just the one, instead of three Pikmin) that weighs as much as three Pikmin for Olimar.

Why didn't they make him playable in Ultimate?

 

[Quillion]

I'd rather just have all the captains be alts for Olimar and the later Pikmin types integrated into their moveset honestly.

 

[Perkilator]

Why didn't they make him playable in Ultimate?

Right?! Same could be said for Shadow, especially considering Dark a Samus made the jump from Assist Trophy to Echo Fighter.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Why didn't they make him playable in Ultimate?

It was never said iirc, but it can be assumed that time constraints played a part because that's the usual reason for stuff not getting in.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Ignore this, the original Source Gaming post was updated.

Though worth noting it was "Rock Pikmin if possible" not "will use it for sure". Rock Pikmin were never a guarantee at any point either.

So the wiki is misleading a bit, since it implies it was a core idea, not a mild hopeful thought.

Alph could've been an Echo but no Rock Pikmin. It's a minor semantics thing, though.

To comment more on Ultimate;

Time constraints isn't the full picture for Pikmin & Alph. The series was on hiatus, and there was at most one new Pikmin idea. That means it requires more work than others Echoes and the series isn't that active, so it's basically a lower priority. Time constraints probably played a part too.

Shadow at least has the excuse of "Sega didn't say yes.", if he was considered. He tends to be decently used around that point, and the Sonic series didn't lose relevance at any point(or even had a minor thing, like how MegaMan had a crossover comic around the time he was added, making it an overall active product. Not just re-releases).

 

[fogbadge]

I'd rather just have all the captains be alts for Olimar and the later Pikmin types integrated into their moveset honestly.

or we have olimar with louie and the president as alts then an alph echo with britanny and charlie as alts

 

[Quillion]

or we have olimar with louie and the president as alts then an alph echo with britanny and charlie as alts

And what about the rookie?

 

[CannonStreak]

On an unrelated note, here is a possible rumor about the next Nintendo console, if that is okay and you all are interested.

RUMOR: Dev kits for the Switch successor are being sent out https://t.co/zeJPVwJ8MJ pic.twitter.com/YfmIy8xQRG

— GoNintendoTweet (@GoNintendoTweet) July 2, 2023