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Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

Gengar84

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So I guess we know what Ganondorf will look like in Smash 6, right?
Not necessarily. They didn’t go with Zelda’s Breath of the Wild design in Ultimate and instead decided to represent different games with the Triforce trio. I could see see them doing something like that again. It’s definitely still a possibility we could get his TotK design in the next Smash though.
 
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The issue with BotW-style Zelda for me is that she's so far afield from Zelda as she is in the rest of the series. So I wouldn't want BotW-style Zelda at the expense of the classic Zelda moveset.
 

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It's simple with the new Ganondorf; how easily can they make the model work with the current moveset design? If easy, we're golden. If not, it requires more work to use than it is to use his OOT or TP designs.
 

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Giant Staryu eating people!

Wait, what are we talking about?

Oh yeah Ganondorf.

He should be faster given this new looking design.
 

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For me:
  • Waluigi
  • Bandana Waddle Dee
  • Dr. Eggman
  • Crash Bandicoot
  • Estelle Bright
For me, it would be Dante, Doomguy, Geno, 2B, and Crash Bandicoot.

I likely went too heavy on the third party characters, but I'm satisfied with Smash's first party line-up. (though I wouldn't say no to a unique Zelda character like Midna, Impa, or Skull Kid - that feels insanely long overdue)
 

Gengar84

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For me:
  • Waluigi
  • Bandana Waddle Dee
  • Dr. Eggman
  • Crash Bandicoot
  • Estelle Bright
It’s hard to just pick five since there are tons of characters I really want to see but these are my personal top 5 at the moment:
  • Rash/Pimple/Zitz (Battletoads)
  • Magus (Chrono Trigger)
  • Illidan Stormrage (WarCraft)
  • Zegram Ghart (Rogue Galaxy)
  • Sub-Zero (Mortal Kombat)
 
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Aaronitmar released another video on SSBU's Classic Mode.
It got me curious; which routes would you guys change?
  • Samus: Rathalos as the Final Round boss
  • Fox: Marx as the Final Round boss
  • Ness: Marx as the Final Round boss
  • Jigglypuff: Master Hand following the Giant DK in the Final Round
  • Peach: Ridley in Round 6, Bowser/Giga Bowser as the Final Round boss
  • Daisy: A route about fighting every Mario and Mario-adjacent character, with Bowser/Giga Bowser as the Final Round boss
  • Sheik: Galleom as the Final Round boss
  • Dr. Mario: Marx as the Final Round boss
  • Falco: A route about fighting characters with more than two jumps, with Rathalos as the Final Round boss
  • Ganondorf: A route where you fight every character who debuted in Melee, with Bowser/Giga Bowser as the Final Round boss
  • Roy: Ganon as the Final Round boss
  • Mr. Game & Watch: A route about going back in time from the Switch era to the NES era, with Dracula as the Final Round boss
  • Meta Knight: Marx as the Final Round boss
  • Pit: Dracula as the Final Round boss
  • Wario: A route about three-way fights between Wario certain heroes and villains, with Dracula as the Final Round boss
  • Ike: Dracula as the Final Round boss
  • Sonic: A route where you fight every character who debuted in Brawl, with Galleom as the Final Round boss
  • King Dedede: Ganon as the Final Round boss
  • Olimar: A route about opponents larger than Olimar, with Bowser/Giga Bowser as the Final Round boss
  • R.O.B.: A route recreating the Subspace Emissary, with Galleom as the Round 4 boss, Wario in Round 5, Bowser in Round 6, and Ganondorf in the Final Round
  • Toon Link: A route with a team of 4 Toon Links fighting another team of 4 opponents, with Ganon as the Final Round boss
  • Wii Fit Trainer: Bowser/Giga Bowser as the Final Round boss
  • Little Mac: A route more closely based on the Punch-Out games
  • Mii Fighters: A route about fighting opponents based on the three Mii Fighter classes
  • Robin: A route about fighitng opponents based on Robin's tomes
  • Cloud: A route about fighting Sm4sh's DLC characters
  • Richter: Crazy Hand as the Final Round boss, following a battle against Simon
  • King K. Rool: A route about fighting protagonists with the help of fellow villains
  • Joker: A route about fighting characters based on the seven deadly sins
  • Hero: A route about fighting characters from JRPG's
  • Banjo-Kazooie: A route about notable appearances on the N64, with Ganon as the Final Round boss
  • Byleth: A route referencing Fire Emblem gameplay mechanics
  • Min Min: A route about fighters with slowly increasing range each round, with Galleom as the Final Round boss
  • Steve: A route about fighting every 3rd party character in the base game
  • Sephiroth: A route referencing the first 7 Final Fantasy games, with Marx as the Round 6 boss and Cloud as the last opponent
  • Pyra / Mythra: A route referencing the Xeno games
  • Sora: A route where you fight every character in the base game
 
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Speaking of wants wasn't there supposed to be a fe poll TCT~Phantom TCT~Phantom ?
It’s coming, but the suggestion box got flooded with Pokémon replies and Gen 9 stuff so Pokémon is coming first.

Let me tell you, even after pruning the candidates four times we still have over two dozen Pokémon to go through. I couldn’t hit every single suggestion but I tried to hit a good chunk of them. Just by the nature of how many Pokémon were on the docket, I couldn’t hit all of them.

The Pokémon poll and Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, and Kirby results should be out next week. Fire Emblem, Xenoblade, and Mother will be after Pokémon article goes live, likely in late May.

Also idk which of y’all suggested Earthworm Jim in the suggestion box for Pokémon, Mother, Xenoblade, and Fire Emblem lol.
 
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  • Gholdengo
  • Morshu (both he and Gholdengo almost got in the "Memes" category, but i change my mind)
  • The Four Champions (as a stance fighter or only one, preferably Urbosa)
  • Sigurd and/or Seliph (if the rumored Fe4 remake becomes reality)
  • Mike Jones (Come on, Nintendo. Give some representation to your western output)

  • Earthworm Jim
  • A Hyperdimension Neptunia character (anyone besides the main protagonist and maybe Nepgear)
  • Fulgore
  • Ryu Hayabusa
  • Playable Zero (based on Mega Man Zero for variety's sake)

  • Replacing the generic Lumas of Rosalina & Luma with Lumalee from the Super Mario movie. or the Minions.
  • Tony Hawk
  • Mr. Monopoly
  • Moonlight Mask (because of it's "action figure" of the N&B Blocks line)
  • Loco Damian (a Mexican YouTuber that's mostly the Scott the Woz of the country)
 

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For me:
  • Waluigi
  • Bandana Waddle Dee
  • Dr. Eggman
  • Crash Bandicoot
  • Estelle Bright
Alear (Fire Emblem)
Saber (Fate)
Noah (Xenoblade)
Estelle Bright (Trails)
Gholdengo (Pokemon)

Jonesy Fortnite and Sakura Shinguji just barely made the list.

This made me realize that my wants have barely changed since Ult ended lmao, I just added the newest Blorbos in place of the older ones.
 

Hadokeyblade

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Yo this remix of the hometown music that Capcom put in the launch trailer for Battle network legacy collection is fire
We'll probably never hear this piece of music again but i want it in smash.

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For me:
  • Waluigi
  • Bandana Waddle Dee
  • Dr. Eggman
  • Crash Bandicoot
  • Estelle Bright
Megaman.EXE
Kazuma Kiryu
Cybuster
Crash Bandicoot
Meowscarada
 

Stratos

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If there are sequels to The Super Mario Bros. Movie, I'd say they should put Green Yoshi, Wario, Waluigi, Princess Daisy, Pauline, Professor E. Gadd, Bowser Jr., Koopalings, maybe and Wart.
 

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If there are sequels to The Super Mario Bros. Movie, I'd say they should put Green Yoshi, Wario, Waluigi, Princess Daisy, Pauline, Professor E. Gadd, Bowser Jr., Koopalings, maybe and Wart.
Two of those are already in the movie, though.

Part of me hopes that Toad's prominence in this movie leads to a Toad (whether it's a regular Toad, the Blue Toad, or Captain Toad) becoming playable in Smash (in any of these cases, Toadette could be an alt like Alph is for Olimar), though if the past few decades of games haven't prompted them to promote Toad from being a shield/counter for Peach, then I doubt the movie appearance will.

(On a related note, it would be neat to see Cranky Kong playable in Smash, though I'd prefer Dixie)
 

Gengar84

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Are there any characters in Ultimate (or Smash in general) that you were indifferent to when they were revealed but ended up really enjoying how they play? For me, that’s probably Terry and Kazuya. I’ve never really followed Fatal Fury or Tekken but I find both characters a blast to play in Smash, even if I’m not skilled enough to fully play them effectively. That’s one reason I’m always open to pretty much any character even if they weren’t initially on my radar.
 
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Are there any characters in Ultimate (or Smash in general) that you were indifferent to when they were revealed but ended up really enjoying how they play? For me, that’s probably Terry and Kazuya. I’ve never really followed Fatal Fury or Tekken but I find both characters a blast to play in Smash, even if I’m not skilled enough to fully play them effectively. That’s one reason I’m always open to pretty much any character even if they weren’t initially on my radar.
erm probably lucas back when he was first revealed for brawl. having only heard of mother 3 in passing back then i really wasn't sure who he was. however by the time smash 4 came he was, and remains, one of my most used characters. also i guess joker kinda fits that as well, when i saw him on the ultimate website i just rolled my eyes and went "of course" but i found his move set to be fairly enjoyable. even more so after playing persona 5 although i do think his move set is oddly simple for him now.
 

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