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Would you like if next smash bros roster becomes 50% Nintendo reps and 50% 3rd party reps
It makes me wonder how long it will take until nintendo newcomers becomes the least valuable addition we already have seen during DLC that Nintendo reps don’t seem to get much hype in the community in comparison to 3rd parties
Nintendo is a big part of the current roster and you can't get the 50-50 split without cutting a ton of first-party characters or just giving them little to no room in the newcomer department. It can still end up with a fun set of fighters but I think you're moving away from one of the game's big charm points.
Its the two mini Versions of Whispy and Kracko namely Whispy Jr. and Co Kracko they are from 64 and Dreamland 2 Respectivly i dont know i like these tiny Guys!
Obviously they are Stand ins for their Parents!
Other than me being weird there are some reasons to use them instead of their Parents:
Size could be a issue with Whispy
Both are technically Sakurai Characters (Because of Sakurai Bias and Everything)
and thats about it for reasons Hey im not saying they are likely!
Although maybe i swap both of them out with Regular Kracko!
When it comes to Third Parties Thats the fun fact there is only one full third party (Because i think Bayo is 2nd Party like Kirby and Pokemon)
And that is Pacman who is in cause Bandai Namco made/Makes Smash!
I wanted to focus on nintendo with that roster!
Bayonetta (at least 2 and 3) is Nintendo-exclusive, yes, but Nintendo did not contract Platinum in the same way they'd contract HAL/Game Freak for a Kirby/Pokemon game. Bayo's still third party.
Okay i was wrong but the whole situation definitly is up to interpreation a lot!
So depending on how you look at it Bayo is either 1st or 3rd party!
But yeah it is owned by Sega but it cant release on other Plattforms!
What would your thoughts on Windows representation be? It's probably the one specific IP - third party or otherwise - I want to see represented in Smash most. I feel there's more than enough content to make spirits and music of for a Clippy or Cursor DLC pack, but just a stage and 2 or 3 songs or a single AT would be enough for me. I understand the consensus over whether Windows would even be elegible is a bit muddy (and generally negative), but I personally don't really see how it's that different from PictoChat or the Wii Shop. Will admit Halo should probably come first though.
Nintendo is a big part of the current roster and you can't get the 50-50 split without cutting a ton of first-party characters or just giving them little to no room in the newcomer department. It can still end up with a fun set of fighters but I think you're moving away from one of the game's big charm points.
I think from business stand point it would definitely help selling the game that target communities that are not from Nintendo
Also There are definitely are many nintendo reps that can be cut from the roster even though I am not a fan of cutting characters
Okay i was wrong but the whole situation definitly is up to interpreation a lot!
So depending on how you look at it Bayo is either 1st or 3rd party!
But yeah it is owned by Sega but it cant release on other Plattforms!
What would your thoughts on Windows representation be? It's probably the one specific IP - third party or otherwise - I want to see represented in Smash most. I feel there's more than enough content to make spirits and music of for a Clippy or Cursor DLC pack, but just a stage and 2 or 3 songs or a single AT would be enough for me. I understand the consensus over whether Windows would even be elegible is a bit muddy (and generally negative), but I personally don't really see how it's that different from PictoChat or the Wii Shop. Will admit Halo should probably come first though.
Waited to respond to this one until I'm on PC - I have a lot to say!
I'm still not 100% sure what my stance on Windows content in Smash is. On one hand, I think it'd be interesting - I do think there's enough content to make a full on Challenger's Pack with Clippy as the star, and people being introduced to the history of Windows would be cool as well. A lot more people use Windows on a daily basis than, let's say, people who like one specific game franchise, so in a sense, Windows would be one of the least "literally who" franchises you could add to Smash! So on a conceptual level, I'd love Windows content.
That leads to a question, though; Is Windows a gaming series? I'd argue no - Although WaWaWa does cite PictoChat and the Wii Shop Channel as non-games with content in Smash, those services were specifically made for gaming consoles, while Windows is a computer operating system first and foremost. At the same time, though, PC gaming is wildly popular, so by that logic, you could argue someone like Clippy is a console mascot like Mr. G&W and ROB?
So yeah, that's why I'm on the fence about Windows stuff - It'd be awesome, but it's sitting on a fine line between being a non-gaming and gaming franchise, IMO. Even if you subscribe to the former idea, I'd still say that Clippy would be one of the very few fourth-parties I wouldn't be considerably opposed to.
curious how long it will take until Roblox rep becomes serious smash suggestion
I remember was seen by many as a joke smash suggestion but here we are Minecraft is the most sold game ever and was worth the inclusion to be added with gaming all stars
While Roblox still has not been on a Nintendo system yet it is currently the most played game that is still growing a lot to this day
I am pretty Steve vs Roblox Noob would be a historical moment in gaming
What would your thoughts on Windows representation be? It's probably the one specific IP - third party or otherwise - I want to see represented in Smash most. I feel there's more than enough content to make spirits and music of for a Clippy or Cursor DLC pack, but just a stage and 2 or 3 songs or a single AT would be enough for me. I understand the consensus over whether Windows would even be elegible is a bit muddy (and generally negative), but I personally don't really see how it's that different from PictoChat or the Wii Shop. Will admit Halo should probably come first though.
Ngl I want Clippy in smash he is basically a console mascot just like I think we can agree that PC does count as a gaming console and also Clippy did have his own game
Think about this for a second Microsoft owns 3 console mascots Crash for PlayStation and Master Cheif for Xbox and Clippy for Windows PC
Also it would be funny seeing Microsoft office assistance as spirits
curious how long it will take until Roblox rep becomes serious suggestion
I remember was seen by many as a joke smash suggestion but here we are Minecraft is the most sold game ever and was worth the inclusion to be added with gaming all stars
While Roblox still has not been on a Nintendo system yet it is currently the most played game that is still growing a lot to this day
I am pretty Steve vs Roblox Noob would be a historical moment in gaming
One thing I've been saying for a while now is that Smash not having any true "meme picks" yet, as in characters added solely in response to viral internet humour (and no, Waluigi would not count come his next-to-inevitable addition), has nothing to do with "integrity" or some gatekeepy BS like "pleasing only the TRUE fans". I think it's more to do with how many regions Smash is released into - memes tend to be mutually exclusive by region (sans regions that share languages), especially with the sort of niche fandom micromemes that spawn Hugh Neutrons and Ultra Instinct Shaggies. A Japanese dev team probably wouldn't spend enough time on Western Smash circles to pick up the idea of say, Morshu - and if they did somehow pick up and act on it, the non-English fandom would be wondering what the hell possessed them to add the top hat-wearing Goomba from Mario Party 4 and why his trailer is Kirby-themed.
One thing I've been saying for a while now is that Smash not having any true "meme picks" yet, as in characters added solely in response to viral internet humour (and no, Waluigi would not count come his next-to-inevitable addition), has nothing to do with "integrity" or some gatekeepy BS like "pleasing only the TRUE fans". I think it's more to do with how many regions Smash is released into - memes tend to be mutually exclusive by region (sans regions that share languages), especially with the sort of niche fandom micromemes that spawn Hugh Neutrons and Ultra Instinct Shaggies. A Japanese dev team probably wouldn't spend enough time on Western Smash circles to pick up the idea of say, Morshu - and if they did somehow pick up and act on it, the non-English fandom would be wondering what the hell possessed them to add the top hat-wearing Goomba from Mario Party 4 and why his trailer is Kirby-themed.
Speaking of favourites, what stages do people want to see? Smash ultimate was rather light on new stages, so is there anything you think is missing? Or better yet, what could come with a new series?
Getting something fun and unique like kof stadium or just something really aesthetic like cloud sea is another thing to look forward to.
The Rayman games have way too many amazing environments for me to pick just one, though I feel band land might be the best with how unique it is and it's pretty iconic from the first game.
As for existing reps, wouldn't mind a Wario land stage, or some more metroid
Okay i was wrong but the whole situation definitly is up to interpreation a lot!
So depending on how you look at it Bayo is either 1st or 3rd party!
But yeah it is owned by Sega but it cant release on other Plattforms!
One thing I've been saying for a while now is that Smash not having any true "meme picks" yet, as in characters added solely in response to viral internet humour (and no, Waluigi would not count come his next-to-inevitable addition), has nothing to do with "integrity" or some gatekeepy BS like "pleasing only the TRUE fans". I think it's more to do with how many regions Smash is released into - memes tend to be mutually exclusive by region (sans regions that share languages), especially with the sort of niche fandom micromemes that spawn Hugh Neutrons and Ultra Instinct Shaggies. A Japanese dev team probably wouldn't spend enough time on Western Smash circles to pick up the idea of say, Morshu - and if they did somehow pick up and act on it, the non-English fandom would be wondering what the hell possessed them to add the top hat-wearing Goomba from Mario Party 4 and why his trailer is Kirby-themed.
Why he's a legend on the industry, he's mostly joked in the Smash Ultimate speculation days, and his fans were attacked by both Steve and Banjo communities.
The waters were calm later on, and his "meme pick" status was gone. So a better poll can be:
Goku or Bubsy?
So's I asks the wife. I says what's a bad Pokemon? There are none!, I answers before she c'n says. Polteageist, she says. That's awesome!, I says. It's a haunted tea pot. So?, I asks. I continues, name the worst Pokemon!
Paras.
Watchog, maybe?
She says.
What says you? And I know it's about as useful's a question But I stands by my word. There are no bad Pokemon!
So's I asks the wife. I says what's a bad Pokemon? There are none!, I answers before she c'n says. Polteageist, she says. That's awesome!, I says. It's a haunted tea pot. So?, I asks. I continues, name the worst Pokemon!
Paras.
Watchog, maybe?
She says.
What says you? And I know it's about as useful's a question But I stands by my word. There are no bad Pokemon!
So's I asks the wife. I says what's a bad Pokemon? There are none!, I answers before she c'n says. Polteageist, she says. That's awesome!, I says. It's a haunted tea pot. So?, I asks. I continues, name the worst Pokemon!
Paras.
Watchog, maybe?
She says.
What says you? And I know it's about as useful's a question But I stands by my word. There are no bad Pokemon!
Okay i was wrong but the whole situation definitly is up to interpreation a lot!
So depending on how you look at it Bayo is either 1st or 3rd party!
But yeah it is owned by Sega but it cant release on other Plattforms!
The character of Bayonetta, the Bayonetta IP and the first game are all owned by Sega and developed by Platinum Games.
Nintendo funded and has some rights to Bayonetta 2 and Bayonetta 3.
So they have SOME legal ownership over those two specific games, but Sega has the rights to the character and franchise. Nintendo has no legal right over the IP. Bayonetta 1 can still be sold on any console. I have a Steam copy myself. Sega can do what they want with the IP. They just choose to make a partnership with Nintendo.
There is no room for interpretation. Legal rights are legal rights.
The Rayman games have way too many amazing environments for me to pick just one, though I feel band land might be the best with how unique it is and it's pretty iconic from the first game. View attachment 363907
As for existing reps, wouldn't mind a Wario land stage, or some more metroid
So's I asks the wife. I says what's a bad Pokemon? There are none!, I answers before she c'n says. Polteageist, she says. That's awesome!, I says. It's a haunted tea pot.
Why he's a legend on the industry, he's mostly joked in the Smash Ultimate speculation days, and his fans were attacked by both Steve and Banjo communities.
The waters were calm later on, and his "meme pick" status was gone. So a better poll can be:
Goku or Bubsy?
I don't really get how Bubsy is a "meme pick", like his games are bad and the character is seen as annoying, sure, but he's still the main protagonist of a very memorable triple A (for the time) game, and Bubsy 3D - in spite of its poor quality - is objectively a landmark title in the 3D platformer genre for mostly positive reasons. I feel a meme pick is moreso a character who's sole virtue is "it'd be funny" and was specifically requested by fans for that reason alone.
The thing with Bubsy is that any contemporary relevance he does have is due to his memetic status as a lousy platforming mascot (though I'd argue his first two games are merely below average than outright bad). Him getting two new games in the last few years was likely rooted in that fame specifically, and especially younger fans know him for being the joke figure content creators make videos about than his merits as an actual game character.
Hence why he's seen as a meme pick in that sense; the majority of people out there would not see much merit in him getting in Smash except for the humorous absurdity of it, especially given that even in the category of mid 90s mascots, there's still other choices that feel more interesting (Sparkster, Aero the Acrobat, Gex, Crash, etc).
The thing with Bubsy is that any contemporary relevance he does have is due to his memetic status as a lousy platforming mascot (though I'd argue his first two games are merely below average than outright bad). Him getting two new games in the last few years was likely rooted in that fame specifically, and especially younger fans know him for being the joke figure content creators make videos about than his merits as an actual game character.
Hence why he's seen as a meme pick in that sense; the majority of people out there would not see much merit in him getting in Smash except for the humorous absurdity of it.
At least he has a better chance than any non-video game character like Shrek, SpongeBob, Geralt, etc.. Any character that didn't started as part of a video game should be considered as a meme pick.
At least he has a better chance than any non-video game character like Shrek, SpongeBob, Geralt, etc.. Any character that didn't started as part of a video game should be considered as a meme pick.
At least he has a better chance than any non-video game character like Shrek, SpongeBob, Geralt, etc.. Any character that didn't started as part of a video game should be considered as a meme pick.
Just because someone has alow chancve that doesnt make them a Meme Pick realisticly as long as Sakurai is in Charge Dark Matter has a low chance of coming in! Heck even Galacta Knight has a low Chance noe that hes replaced!
A Meme pick is only a meme if its almost exclusivly picked cause of a Meme!
Goku for Example ISNT a meme pick eventho hes fourth Party cause there are Many DB Fans that Genuinly want him!
For example speaking of Plugs Plugg from kirby aswell as Pirahna Plant are Joke/Meme Characters but Metroids on the other hand arent!
Even the dumbest fan of Dragon Ball thinks that Goku in Smash is a bad idea.
The people that truly wants non-gaming characters are trolls or people who believe in adaptation displacement.
Even the dumbest fan of Dragon Ball thinks that Goku in Smash is a bad idea.
The people that truly wants non-gaming characters are trolls or people who believe in adaptation displacement.
I am not agaisnt DB fans, it's just that people just want crossovers with their childhood icons in it, and Sakurai has a limit with representation of "outsiders" like Sheek or SpongeBob.
Also, a platform fighter with only dragon Ball and not Shonen Jump or even anime and manga in general. Just wanna main Tsuneo from Doraemon to beating the **** out of Chainsaw Man.
I am not agaisnt DB fans, it's just that people just want crossovers with their childhood icons in it, and Sakurai has a limit with representation of "outsiders" like Shrek or SpongeBob.
Even the dumbest fan of Dragon Ball thinks that Goku in Smash is a bad idea.
The people that truly wants non-gaming characters are trolls or people who believe in adaptation displacement.
So I know Fire Emblem is often a repeated subject that tends to bring groans in regards to character discussion and speculation about Alear is probably not going to be much different, what with them following the Avatar trend and them not looking too different from other Lords aside from the Pepsi hair. So rather than discussing the next game's protagonists' inevitability, why don't we discuss the characters from a game that is one of Nintendo's highest grossing mobile games, Fire Emblem Heroes?
With Fire Emblem Heroes' revenue reaching 1 billion and being one of Nintendo's top Grossing mobiles games even surpassing Mario Kart Tour immensely, and with it finishing up Book VI and on it's way to Book VII in December, Fire Emblem Heroes is certainly a game to think about in regards to the next Smash Bros. It's already had an appearance in Smash Bros. with a music track, the newest remix of the Fire Emblem theme being based on the Heroes version, and Black Knight, the Assist Trophy, uses his voice actors' lines from his appearance in Heroes.
So it's quite possible that more content from Fire Emblem Heroes could enter Smash Bros.
It could be in the form of items like the new Arcane weapons, or maybe a new Pokeball-like item like the Breidablik that could summon different Fire Emblem characters from the different games. More music would also be great.
Could be in the form of Spirits or bigger appearances like Assist Trophies, Bosses or maybe even a stage with cameos.
And then there's the possibility of actually getting a character. With Fire Emblem Heroes about to start Book VII, Fire Emblem Heroes could still be active when the next Smash Bros. is being developed and whatnot.
And obviously, I did ask about discussing the characters. But rather than just leaving those who know nothing about FEH in the dark and confused, I'd thought I would do a summary on the different Main characters for FEH for unknowing Smash fans and see if I can peak some interest.
First starting with the Protagonist Alfonse, the one in the middle and Prince of Askr. The one on the left is Heroes' version of Anna. The one on the right is Alfonse' sister Sharena.
Obviously, Alfonse is the cookie cutter image of the Fire Emblem Protagonist lord, with the classic blue hair and Sword, but in combat, he also uses a shield, like what Marth, Lucina and Chrom also use, aside from Smash Bros. where they don't.
That said, alot of FEH fans certainly have some fond moments with Alfonse, where aside from being very strategic in mindset and deceiving his foes with careful and well-placed strategies and wording, he has the balls to say he will kill Hel, the Goddess of the Realm Hel and FEH's personification of death, and also has some good, "I'm not taking crap from you./No U" attitude moments.
Moveset-wise, one might look at him and think Roy and Chrom, but for one, he does use a Shield and two, in his own game he is slow, so he'd be more similar to Link and Hero. His original Special move is Sol, but he can also get access to Luna, Aether, Bonfire, Astra, Draconic Aura and Moonbow. Also, one of his alternate versions eventually gets a Special called "Open the Way", a reference to his Critical catchphrase, "I'll open the way."
For his Final Smash, the easiest Option would be Open the Way, but you can also pull a Robin with him where he can summon Anna, Sharena and/or Kiran, the Summoner, to do a combo attack with them and finish with Open the Way. As he uses a Sword, Anna uses an Axe and Sharena uses a Spear, it can also serve as a reference to the Weapon Triangle of Sword/Axe/Lance.
Next with the Player Protagonist, the Summoner, their default name being Kiran(ENG) or Eclat(JP). Kiran's true design is the hooded one in the middle, as it is used as the promotional version for the FEH Manga, Cinematics and other FEH-related stuff, but eventually during Book V, FEH gave the option to customize Kiran, where you can choose the Default Hooded look or choose from 3 Male designs and 3 Female designs, although they added a 4th Male and Female design some point later.
Much like how Alfonse follows the traditional Protagonist Lord look, Kiran follows the footsteps of the other Avatar characters like Mark, Kris, Robin, Corrin and Byleth, although Kiran clearly takes from Robin mostly. Their main Weapon is the Breidablik, a Gun-like Mythical weapon that can shoot out magic, can transform into a Sword, Axe and Lance version and it's main purpose is to summon different Fire Emblem characters from different worlds to help save Askr.
Kiran in-game is mainly a silent protagonist that does not have much of a personality aside from being a good hearted person noted by other characters. It also shows in the early FEH Cinematics, where they are mostly a helper to Alfonse and the other main Heroes. However, in the FEH Manga and Cinematics, Kiran is a frickin' dork and goofball complete with gameplay awareness and Meta humor. Not that far off from an Isekei Hero, especially when Kiran was summoned by Anna from the World of Steel, AKA The Real World of Earth. They're also a professional Disco record player and a master of the tambourine.
Now whether or not they actually give Kiran their FEH Manga/later Cinematic personality for Smash is unknown. They can either be a straightforward character or they can go full into their identity as a Real World Human with alot of awareness of Fire Emblem and Smash Bros. gameplay mechanics and make them a dorky goofball.
Moveset-wise, Kiran's access to Breidablik gives them not only a Gun-like weapon that shoots out magic, like lightning magic and whatnot, but it can also transform into a Sword, Lance and Axe giving them access to the Weapon Triangle. They can also control the Sword/Lance/Axe versions telepathically and use them for ranged attacks as well. The Breidablik can also be used to summon Heroes by shooting their entry waypoint out like a bullet and summoning them to attack, so they could use some Heroes for his Special moves similar to Bayonetta's Smash attacks or Zelda's Spirit familiar.
As they are an Avatar character like Robin, Corrin and Byleth, their many alternate costumes would be 4 Male versions and 4 Female versions. There would be a Male Hooded version and a Female Hooded version for consistency sake while the other 6 would be based on the available looks that can be chosen for Kiran, with each one having a different colored outfit for gameplay sake.
Their Final Smash would more than likely be using the Breidablik to summon a whole bunch of Heroes for an all-out attack, but they could be given a Final Smash where he and Alfonse team up against the enemy much like Robin and Chrom.
Once the starting main villain for Fire Emblem Heroes, Veronica has gone through the stages of villain than reluctant helper to eventually her major role in Book VI as both a willing ally and manipulated against her will by the goddess Embla. The left design is her original design. The middle design is her Brave design, when she was voted to the 2nd Most Voted Female character in Choose Your Legends Round 2. The right design is the form given to her by Embla to fight against the player and protagonists in Book VI.
Veronica's main weapon is Magic, with her original Tome being Elivagar and the Tome given to her by Embla being Enclosing Dark. Her Brave version wields Hlidskjálf, a giant Staff weapon. In-story, she is mainly a dark magic user due to Embla's blood being in her veins.
Veronica goes through alot of character development though the books. During Book 1, she mainly starts as the spoiled princess of the Embla Empire who wants to destroy Askr, but eventually thanks to some of the Heroes she forced contracts with, she starts focusing less on Askr and more on the well-being and lives of her people. During the early times when she has to join forces with Askr, she starts mostly with "I'm only doing this because I have to." but slowly and eventually by Book VI, she reaches Main Heroine status and by then is more than grateful for Askr helping her with the issues in her kingdom and the darkness threatening to swallow both Askr and Embla and she becomes very sorrowful when she is forced to battle Alfonse and the player by Embla.
Moveset-wise, she would mainly be a magic user. She could also possibly use Hlidskjálf, her Staff for some moves as well. But that said, her big magic moves would mainly consist of dark magic like Elivagar, Nosferatu and Gespenst. Although maybe there could be a special move where she summons Xander, one of the Heroes from FEFates she forced a contract with, but stayed with her to see if he could possibly help her with her problem.
Her Final Smash would more than likely be Embla transforming her into her Book VI look and having her use Enclosing Dark to engulf foes near her.
The main Heroine of Book 2, Fjorm hails from the ice kingdom of Nifl who fights against the invading fiery kingdom of Muspell and it's tyrannical king, Surtr. The design to the left is her main look while the design to the right is her powered up by her kingdom's goddess Nifl. She is infamous for her many appearances in the event Forging Bonds.
Fjorm's main weapon is Leiptr, a lance of ice important to her home kingdom. And her powered up version uses Nifl's Bite, given to her by the goddess Nifl. She is also a conjurer of ice magic, capable of firing gigantic ice projectiles and conjuring a shield of ice that absorbs incoming damage to boost her power for a short while.
Personality-wise, she is a mix between gentle, timid and determined. In-battle for the most part, she's more than willing to fight against Surtr to save her kingdom and to avenge her mother and older sister who were slain by him. Nevertheless, she shows compassion for Laegjern, an enemy general who showed mercy to some of her people and who's fighting to protect her sister, and becomes sorrowful when they are forced to kill Laegjern. And her gentleness and unwillingness to kill those she finds friends is really put to the test when the goddess Nifl forces her to fight against the god Muspell who has revived and chosen Laegjern to fight against Fjorm and Nifl to Fjorm's horror.
Moveset-wise, she is mainly a Lance wielder. But she could utilize her Axe for her Smash attacks. She also uses Ice Magic and they can be utilized by her Special attacks, like she could use Ice projectiles for her B or Side-B and her Ice Mirror Special for her Down-B Special. She can also conjure ice to use for movement.
Her Final Smash would likely be her being powered up by the goddess Nifl to unleash a powerful Ice attack on foes.
The main Heroine of Book 3, Eir is the "daughter" of Hel, the goddess of the realm of Hel, who is forced to fight against the player and Alfonse early, but is spared by the group after her defeat and she joins them. She comes across as hopeless to Alfonses' incoming doom to Hel, but slowly her friendship with the group eventually has her turn against Hel and she ultimately helps Alfonse, Veronica and Kiran in defeating Hel for good. She is eventually found by the goddess Ymir who comes to save her from Ganglot, Hel's handmaiden, and reveals Eir's true lineage. Her left design is her main design throughout Book 3 and some Forging Bonds. Her right design is her being revitalised and powered up by Ymir.
Eir's main weapon is Lyfjaberg, a dagger given to her by Hel, that according to her, offers death to those who seek it and gives compassion to those wish to live. When powered by Ymir, she gains the dagger Ymir, Everliving. Despite the fact that she is shown with one dagger, both Lyfjaberg and Ymir can become two daggers for Eir to dual-wield which often portrays her spin attacking or attacking with both.
Personality-wise, she starts as a very sorrowful and hopeless character, having been forced to live and die constantly by Hel who used her as a power source. She is often gloomy and has a hopeless outlook. Eventually, her friendship with the protag group slowly gives her determination, hope and smile back. Forging Bonds portrays her as both curious, but still rather sorrowful as she adjusts to her new life. And after her journey with Ymir, learning her true identity and having to face Lif, her determination and desire to help erupts out for the sake of the fallen and desiring to help Lif with his currant problem.
Moveset-wise, she'd probably be a quick character who fights up close with daggers and also throws them. She can imbue her daggers with dark or life energy and if true to her gameplay in Fire Emblem, her daggers can slowly reduce the defense of her foes as she hits them. That said, as she does not have her own Special compared to some other characters, she could utilize her innate Special attack, Moonbow, as well as other Specials like Luna, Draconic Aura, Blazing Wind, and most notably, Lethality, a classic Special normally used by Assassins in the FE series, but it's also a Special she can get.
Her Final Smash would most likely be her powered by the goddess Ymir and utilizing the dagger Ymir, Everliving, to unleash a special attack against foes.
One of the main Antagonists of Book 3, Lif is one of the followers of Hel in her invasion against Askr and Embla. Named after the first King of Askr, in reality, he is a parallel version of Alfonse who's group ultimately lost to Hel, literally being 1 of the only 2 survivors from his world. Hel eventually gives him a deal where if he helps her destroy the next world, she will fully bring back his World, including the fallen like his world's Sharena and Kiran. Beyond desperate and looking at the slightest hope, he accepts the deal and takes the name Lif. The character on the right is Thrasir, named after the first Empress of Embla, the 2nd only survivor of Lif's world and in reality, a parallel version of Veronica.
His main weapon is Sökkvabekkr, a longsword given to him by Hel. He loses the shield that he had as Alfonse most likely to emphasise his destructive desperation in wanting to destroy the currant world to get his own world back. When he is later brought back by Ganglot, Hel's handmaiden, to kill Eir, Ganglot gives him the dangerous Arcane weapon once owned by Hel, Éljúdnir.
Personality-wise, he's what you think he would be like with that backstory. Serious, blunt and quite sorrowful similarly to Eir. Compared to Alfonse, he is without mercy and while uncompassionate to the currant world's group, he doesn't show sadism or anger to them, only desperation and despair.
Moveset-wise, he'd still be nowhere like the Marth/Roy/Chrom/Lucina quad. Maybe a mix between Cloud and Ike. His moveset would probably focus on being destructive and having desperation in his attacks. He can utilise the same Specials as Alfonse, including Open the Way.
His Final Smash would most likely be him teaming up with Thrasir for a combo attack, with him striking with his sword and Thrasir using dark magic. It's also possible for his Final Smash to utilise Éljúdnir, where his attacks become more destructive due to the sinister nature of the Arcane weapons.
The main Heroine of Book 4, she is a Fairy from Ljósálfheimr, the Realm of Dreams. She aids Alfonse and his group after they are trapped in a dream by Freyja, the ruler of Dökkálfheimr, the Realm of Nightmares. She and Sharena have an old friendship with each other, having met each other in the Realm of Dreams as children, alongside 3 other children. It is later revealed that Peony, alongside the other 3 children, chose to become fairies after Freyr, the ruler of Ljósálfheimr, offered them to become fairies to help restore the Realm of Dreams.
Peony does not use normal weaponry. Instead she uses the Flower of Joy, a power of the Realm of Dreams for attacking foes and supporting her allies. As a "Light Fairy", her dream powers often revolve around light and cheeriness.
She's friendly, sociable and likes to meet people and make new friends, very similarly to Sharena. She also shows compassion to those who are having problems and wants to give them good and gentle dreams to help cheer them up.
Compared to the others that I have listed, Peony is much more suitable as an Assist Trophy or Summon, as she is much more a Support character rather than an attacker. With her Flower of Joy and her special Dance support, Gentle Dream, she powers up her allies and refreshes them. I just thought I'd list her for consistency sake since she still is a main Heroine.
Reginn is the Main Heroine of Book 5 and is a Dvergar(the old name for Dwarf. Yes, she's a dwarf.) from the realm of Nidavellir, a vast kingdom of technological advances and machinery. At first, she fights against Askr under orders from her brother, Fafnir, but she eventually joins Askr as she feels like her brothers are being raged consumed and she wants to know why. She fights against her brothers Fafnir and Otr while trying to ask them why they feel so anger driven, but her questions are mostly ignored for the most part. She eventually goes to Jotunheimr with Alfonse and the group to find the royal sword Gramr where she befriends the Jotun Dagr and Nott and finds out she is the missing heir to Nidavellir.
Rather than wielding a weapon normally, she rides the Nidavellir-created Seidjárn, a four-legged Mecha that wields a giant sword and shield, shoots Seidr Shell bullets and rockets and can move quickly around the area even after attacking. She does eventually gets the sword Gramr that she uses to slay her forcibly maddened brother.
Personality-wise, she's tomboy-ish, open, wants to help people and really wants to help her brothers and find why they feel so rage driven. That said, she's also somewhat driven by impulse, she has a desire to prove herself and she can also get very emotional, especially when she is fighting her brothers later in the story. Also, she's implied to be a heavy eater by Sharena.
Moveset-wise, she would be a Mecha character, riding in her Seidjarn and attacking with a giant sword, bullets, rockets and whatnot. The Seidjarn is not overly big compared to other fighters. When she fought with Alfonse in the cinematic, the Seidjarn is not that bigger from Alfonse. It's possible that Bowser would still be bigger than the Seidjarn, although not by that much. As a Mecha Fighter, Reginn could potentially leave it after the Seidjarn gets damaged enough or she could stay in the Seidjarn and the Seidjarn gets knocked back like everybody else when they are launched. If they do make her leave the Seidjarn at some point, she would wield Gramr and likely be light and nimble compared to her Seidjarn.
Her Final Smash would most likely be her Seidjarn utilising a barrage of weaponry before finishing off with a sword strike. Maybe she could get a team-up FS with Dagr.
Probably the Secondary Main Heroine of Book 6, as Book 6 focuses more around Veronica compared to Ash, but nevertheless, she's the one who joins Alfonse and crew at the start of Book 6 like the other Main Heroines. She is the retainer to Lord Askr, the god of the kingdom of Askr, much like the goddess Embla to the Embla Empire. She comes to the aid of Alfonse and Crew when they find areas of complete darkness appearing in Askr, where they learn that Embla is making her descent to force those with her blood in them to destroy the kingdom of Askr.
Despite her humanoid form, her main form of battle is a divine beast to fight against foes. And yes, it is a bovine. It doesn't stop her from shooting lasers from her horns and that tail of hers. Aside from her divine form, she does hold a staff and while she never outright uses the staff, artwork does depict her using it in a magic-like sense.
Personality-wise, she's peaceful, amicable and protective and puts others over herself. That said, she can be a bit over talkative, especially in trying to get across what's on her mind and thoughts.
Much like Peony, she'd probably work more as an Assist/Summon character rather than a fighter, especially in a similar vein as Assist Trophy Tiki. She does have a staff that she can use for fighting, although her Divine form may not get alot of attention in favor of balance issues aside from her Final Smash.
As for a Final Smash for her, aside from her form, her other possible Final Smash would be summoning Lord Askr to unleash an powerful attack on her foes.
Because of their presence in Book 6 and somewhat their importance to Alfonse and Veronica, here's Lord Askr and Lady Embla.
Askr and Embla are the Divine Dragons that worked with the first King of Askr Lif and the first Empress of Embla Thrasir to found the Kingdom of Askr and the Embla Empire. Despite Askr being very trusting and open to the mortals, Embla was not so trusting and while she was convinced by Askr to open up a bit and she enjoyed the appreciation, but after an incident, Embla became distrusting of mortals again. That distrust only became worst, especially to Askr, and eventually, she contained the people of Embla and herself and plotted to kill Askr and those with his blood.
Askr's Divine form is that of a large divine bull, a much holier version compared to Twilight Princess Ganon while Embla's Divine form is that of a large bat-like dragon. Aside from their Divine forms, both of them hold Staff-like weapons like their retainers and compared to Ash, the Cinematic trailer with them has them using their staves for attacks and defense. Also, it should be noted that it's not a dress Embla's wearing. Those are her wings wrapped around her.
Personality-wise, Askr is cheerful, benevolent, open and also a dork. According to Askr, Embla once was also kind, although the events that lead to her change made her spiteful, cruel and hateful.
Hilariously, when they were first revealed, alot of FEH players went for Askr compared to Embla because of how dork-ish and cheerful he was acting in the trailer.
So there we go. I got a list of the notable FEH characters put there, I hopefully made it easy to find the more Smash Bros. important stuff like gameplay, aesthetic and whatnot. I know not alot of people are Fire Emblem fans and it's easy to talk about Alear in regards to Smash Bros, but I thought we could give FEH some attention. It's got some cool settings, interesting characters and good music. It's a notable mobile game for Nintendo in how much money it's made for them. I say a character from FEH is decently possible and there are a good number of characters they can choose from.
Heck, Book 7 is almost here and who knows which Book we'll be on when the next Smash Bros. comes. It would be interesting to see what Smash could do with FEH.
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