Official Next Smash - Speculation & Discussion Thread

[LiveStudioAudience]

As far as the niche franchise getting a new entry, is Star Fox still too well known to be considered for that category despite its declining sales? There is some precedent for Nintendo home consoles getting SF games near the final years (Assault in 2005, Zero in 2016, almost SF2 in 1995) so a Star Fox release around this time isn't that out there.

 

[Gorgonzales]

I mean, when the only Wario Land content in Smash Bros. is the one main theme from Wario Land Shake it, where else are you going to categorise it without a Wario Land category?.....

They had 3 games to just put in Greenhorn Forest as a Wario song and didn't do it.
That's like his theme! How is it not in after all this time?

 

[Ivander]

There's also a couple Spirits. :V

Right.....counts 4. So 4 spirits + 1 song = 5 pieces of content. That's only 1 more higher than R.O.B/Stack-Up/Gyromite......me typing that just makes me feel bad for both Wario Land and R.O.B., especially when none of the R.O.B. spirits are Professor Hector.

 

[dream1ng]

As far as the niche franchise getting a new entry, is Star Fox still too well known to be considered for that category despite its declining sales? There is some precedent for Nintendo home consoles getting SF games near the final years (Assault in 2005, Zero in 2016, almost SF2 in 1995) so a Star Fox release around this time isn't that out there.

For all we know everything that isn't like... Mario, Zelda, AC, Pokemon, Splatoon, Smash, DK, and probably Kirby could qualify. It's based on the perception of the leaker and what they see as "somewhat niche" yet "big".

I would argue Star Fox fits somewhat niche yet big (for the Nintendo crowd) very well, but I don't think it's SF. I think if there is a SF in development, Nintendo isn't putting it on a system that is actively being replaced. I think they want to give it more of a chance than that in terms of longevity and promotion.

 

[Thegameandwatch]

For all we know everything that isn't like... Mario, Zelda, AC, Pokemon, Splatoon, Smash, DK, and probably Kirby could qualify. It's based on the perception of the leaker and what they see as "somewhat niche" yet "big".

Maybe Fire Emblem but that series could still be considered niche depending on how it’s defined.

 

[Lionfranky]

Will people bring "Characters from F2P games origin can't become fighters" fanrule? Fortnite, Genshin, etc

 

[Gengar84]

Will people bring "Characters from F2P games origin can't become fighters" fanrule? Fortnite, Genshin, etc

I don’t see why they couldn’t. If people love the games and the characters, that should be all that matters. I don’t care to play F2P games myself but some have pretty cool lore based on shows I’ve seen.

 

[Ivander]

Will people bring "Characters from F2P games origin can't become fighters" fanrule? Fortnite, Genshin, etc

Not only would it be broken by Fortnite, but Fire Emblem Heroes can also break that rule(and then people go "3rd Party characters from F2P games origin can't become fighters").

That said, even if Fire Emblem Heroes didn't get a playable character, I'd still love to see some content for it like the music, an Assist Trophy, a stage or even the Breidablik as a Pokeball-like item for Fire Emblem characters.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Will people bring "Characters from F2P games origin can't become fighters" fanrule? Fortnite, Genshin, etc

I want it to not be a fan rule just for the sake of using FEH and all the Pokemon mobile spinoffs as a way to get reps from their older games.

 

[dream1ng]

Will people bring "Characters from F2P games origin can't become fighters" fanrule? Fortnite, Genshin, etc

If they haven't yet, probably not. People weren't stoked on the idea of a Fortnite character in Smash but no one was saying it couldn't happen on the grounds of being F2P. And if people aren't using that excuse for a character so unwanted as, like, Jonesy, clearly it's not widespread.

Besides, Nintendo has released F2P games themselves, so it would be a little hypocritical.

 

[Gengar84]

I think my biggest issues with Jonesy are that he looks kind of boring visually and I don’t know much of anything about his story or personality. He kind of gives off the impression of a blank slate avatar but I could be way off. Fortnite’s definitely popular enough that he’s earned consideration. If his moveset is fun, I’d be perfectly fine seeing him in Smash.

 

[Thegameandwatch]

I don’t see why they couldn’t. If people love the games and the characters, that should be all that matters. I don’t care to play F2P games myself but some have pretty cool lore based on shows I’ve seen.

I feel like the only video game characters that could have issues are ones that are from non-video game franchises such as KOTOR (Knights of the Old Republic) and maybe even The Witcher since not that many people are aware that it started as a novel series.

I think my biggest issues with Jonesy are that he looks kind of boring visually and I don’t know much of anything about his story or personality. He kind of gives off the impression of a blank slate avatar but I could be way off. Fortnite’s definitely popular enough that he’s earned consideration. If his moveset is fun, I’d be perfectly fine seeing him in Smash.

It will probably be a Hero situation where it wouldn't be just Jonesy but every alt is a different skin because they're mostly aesthetic in Fortnite. There is lot of original skins so copyright wouldn't be an issue.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

It will probably be a Hero situation where it wouldn't be just Jonesy but every alt is a different skin because they're mostly aesthetic in Fortnite. There is lot of original skins so copyright wouldn't be an issue.

Alternatively, we could see Jonesy's various outfits over the course of the games story, he's had a lot.

 

[Arcanir]

It was talked about earlier, but ideally if Jonesy is playable they'll add some of the quirkier skins. Part of the charm I've seen if the game is how silly it can be, and skins like Peely, Meowscles, and Fishsticks are popular/recurring skins that the franchise constantly uses and would help highlight that aspect.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Me, I'd prefer Trace

I'm already Trace.

 

[Gengar84]

Me, I'd prefer Trace
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Or maybe Adanna of the Deep

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I like these designs quite a bit actually, particularly Adanna. I have no idea if either are prominent characters in Fortnite but they do look cool and they’d help give Smash some diversity.

 

[BuckleyTim]

I like these designs quite a bit actually, particularly Adanna. I have no idea if either are prominent characters in Fortnite but they do look cool and they’d help give Smash some diversity.

they really aren't important to anything, but at this point reoccurring characters of relevant interest are basically down to Jonesy, Peely, and I guess Hope?

...it's not worth making sense of this game's story because it's so obvious when things get sidelined because they have to pour all their resources into making the game whatever Epic thinks the definition of metaverse is this year.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

...it's not worth making sense of this game's story because it's so obvious when things get sidelined because they have to pour all their resources into making the game whatever Epic thinks the definition of metaverse is this year.

From what I've heard it's a simulation that kidnaps and lobotomizes people from just about every universe in existence so they can watch people fight...

Oddly dark, but in a way that feels like a copout to explain how literally every crossover is cannon rather than an interestingly dark Kirby lore sort of way.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

Completely forgot it was Monday for a second there and that the music app would update, so a bit late, but eh.

Today's addition is Super Mario Kart, which feels fitting considering we saw Mario Kart in the Switch 2 reveal lol

 

[jamesster445]

How do we react when they add Geno but it's Fortnite Geno
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Laugh. Hard. Like Light Yagami at the end of Death Note.

 

[Hadokeyblade]

From what I've heard it's a simulation that kidnaps and lobotomizes people from just about every universe in existence so they can watch people fight...

Oddly dark, but in a way that feels like a copout to explain how literally every crossover is cannon rather than an interestingly dark Kirby lore sort of way.

Yeah, Master Chief, Kratos, the Avengers and the Street fighter gang have been integral to the plot before after being kidnapped from their worlds

Jonesy personally being the guy who dragged Ryu and Chun-Li here.