Official Newcomer/DLC Speculation Discussion

[Nightguything]

I’d actually love if Chun-li and Lloyd turned out to be true.

Being a big fighting game fan, having the First Lady of video games (Chun) and the final in the trio of big JRPG’s (Tales) Would set this pass pretty high imo

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Chun-Li is a character who's iconic status, popularity and history make her one of gaming's most recognizable characters.

Even if you don't know her name, you'll probably recognize her somewhat.

Also she's major enough to get a movie focusing on her.

She is Sephiroth level for sure.

 

[Evil Trapezium]

I wonder if it's possible that this pass could end up having a 50/50 split of Japanese and Western characters. Sounds unlikely but if Crash Bandicoot does end up being in this pass then I think we could expect one more western character to join Fighter Pass 2.

 

[SNEKeater]

Sephiroth after trying spicy curry. Truly the best gift of this Challenger Pack:

 

[SharkLord]

Chun-Li is a character who's iconic status, popularity and history make her one of gaming's most recognizable characters.

Even if you don't know her name, you'll probably recognize her somewhat.

Also she's major enough to get a movie focusing on her.

She is Sephiroth level for sure.

Wait, she had a movie...?
Huh, she had a movie.

Whenever I hear "Street Fighter" and "movie" in the same sentence all I can think about are M. Bison memes.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

I think people are getting a bit too surface level with their comparisons of potential DLC candidates. Like, I get that they want to appeal to a wide audience, but that doesn't mean that if two characters have one thing in common that they wouldn't both be in the pass, or even added one after the other.

I can understand the idea that Master Chief and the Doom Slayer wouldn't be in the same pass due to being in the same genre, having similar character designs, and similar color schemes to the point where the casual audience might view one as a redesigned version of the other. I think that's a valid argument.

However, I don't agree with claims that Yuri or Ryu wouldn't be added either right after, or at all because of Sephiroth. Yuri's sword is not the length of his body, his color scheme is way different than Sephiroth's, and while they are both RPG characters, Yuri is a protagonist, and Sephiroth is a villain, which causes them to give off different vibes visually alongside the differences in their gameplay. Nobody would confuse one for the other. Similarly, Ryu is from an entirely different genre, his katana is the length of a butter knife, and he has the whole ninja thing going on as opposed to Sephiroth's angel motif. Nobody would genuinely call him Sephiroth 2.0 or whatever.

If we want to use the previous pass as an example, Banjo & Kazooie and Terry are both fist fighters, and Terry came right after Banjo & Kazooie. Nobody even compared the two characters because there really aren't any comparisons to make. They sure as heck don't appeal to the same people. Similarly, Hero and Byleth are both swordsman from RPGs, and also weren't compared because again, they aren't even remotely the same.

So yeah, while I do think some characters might not be released together just due to who they appeal to and how similar they are to each other, the threshold for that isn't as surface level as their weapon and hair color and whatnot.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Chun-Li and Lloyd are among my Top 5 most wanted, so I'd be ecstatic if they both got in.

 

[Nekoo]

Also she's major enough to get a movie focusing on her.

We shall not talk... About that. Compared to this movie, Advent Children is an Award Winning masterpiece.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

We shall not talk... About that. Compared to this movie, Advent Children is an Award Winning masterpiece.

It had funny memes tho.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Just finished watching Mega Mind. Seems like I missed some leak talk regarding Chun-Li, Lloyd, Doom Slayer, Rayman, and Ryu Hayabusa.

 

[Deleted member]

I feel like Chun-Li has a better shot next game, honestly.

Sephiroth after trying spicy curry. Truly the best gift of this Challenger Pack:

Wow.

 

[Simplythe1]

So.....uh is that Falcom leak from like a month ago dead? no one's really talking about it

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Whenever I hear "Street Fighter" and "movie" in the same sentence all I can think about are M. Bison memes.

I personally think of Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game Ultimate Battle Royale & Knuckles/2 Days Featuring Dante from the Devil May Cry Series.

 

[SharkLord]

So.....uh is that Falcom leak from like a month ago dead?

Nothing's really deconfirmed it yet, though as a "leak" it's probably fake anyways.

 

[MooMew64]

Chun-Li would be an amazing pick. Probably one of the very few fighting game reps that would get my attention, personally.

As for who I think this potential Capcom rep could be? I'm starting to hop back on the Monster Hunter train just a bit after seeing Sephiroth and his pack. DMC is still extremely plausible to me as well, but I really do think MH might end up the victor here.

...Gosh, I wish I could be more positive about Phoenix, though, lol.

 

[Oracle Link]

God I hope, that would be sick. Playing as Master Hand then was like my childhood dreams coming true.

i think its sad that in ultimate you can play Master hand only in Story mode

 

[StarBot]

tl;dr I'm allowed to slobber over half naked characters, you are not

That's not what I said at all

But technically you are right when you word it like that

Men are allowed to slobber over female half baked characters, and nobody bats a eye

While females for some reason, are not allowed or discouraged, even if the character was 100% was meant to attract to them

Glad you agree dude, the patriarchy sucks ass

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

I think people are getting a bit too surface level with their comparisons of potential DLC candidates. Like, I get that they want to appeal to a wide audience, but that doesn't mean that if two characters have one thing in common that they wouldn't both be in the pass, or even added one after the other.

I can understand the idea that Master Chief and the Doom Slayer wouldn't be in the same pass due to being in the same genre, having similar character designs, and similar color schemes to the point where the casual audience might view one as a redesigned version of the other. I think that's a valid argument.

However, I don't agree with claims that Yuri or Ryu wouldn't be added either right after, or at all because of Sephiroth. Yuri's sword is not the length of his body, his color scheme is way different than Sephiroth's, and while they are both RPG characters, Yuri is a protagonist, and Sephiroth is a villain, which causes them to give off different vibes visually alongside the differences in their gameplay. Nobody would confuse one for the other. Similarly, Ryu is from an entirely different genre, his katana is the length of a butter knife, and he has the whole ninja thing going on as opposed to Sephiroth's angel motif. Nobody would genuinely call him Sephiroth 2.0 or whatever.

If we want to use the previous pass as an example, Banjo & Kazooie and Terry are both fist fighters, and Terry came right after Banjo & Kazooie. Nobody even compared the two characters because there really aren't any comparisons to make. They sure as heck don't appeal to the same people. Similarly, Hero and Byleth are both swordsman from RPGs, and also weren't compared because again, they aren't even remotely the same.

So yeah, while I do think some characters might not be released together just due to who they appeal to and how similar they are to each other, the threshold for that isn't as surface level as their weapon and hair color and whatnot.

Wait, was there an actual discussion about Yuri not being added because of Sephiroth? I brought it up last night, but I was just goofing.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I'm telling y'all. Be prepared to be amazed and surprise as we get Palicos as the Capcom rep and coming with the Monster Hunter Miis thus the continuation of that Sm4sh trend.

 

[Þe 1 → Way]

i think its sad that in ultimate you can play Master hand only in Story mode

Yeah, its a bit sad. Though it was still an incredibly cool moment. I can see the team adding a new mode eventually where he comes back playable in some form.

 

[Simplythe1]

Nothing's really deconfirmed it yet, though as a "leak" it's probably fake anyways.

I hope its real, I just want Adol to arrive in Smash with his bangers like this

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Idk man, I just want Yuri because I think hes neat

 

[Oracle Link]

That's not what I said at all

But technically you are right when you word it like that

Men are allowed to slobber over female half baked characters, and nobody bats a eye

While females for some reason, are not allowed or discouraged, even if the character was 100% was meant to attract to them

Glad you agree dude, the patriarchy sucks ass

I think you live at least 3-5 Years in the Past this Changed drasticly and continues to change even more drasticly into the faaaaaaar other direction

Also Girls have an Big Advantage when it comes to that its not noticble with them

 

[I.D.]

That's not what I said at all

But technically you are right when you word it like that

Men are allowed to slobber over female half baked characters, and nobody bats a eye

While females for some reason, are not allowed or discouraged, even if the character was 100% was meant to attract to them

Glad you agree dude, the patriarchy sucks ass

Here we have the dreaded MALE POWER FANTASY™ at work

https://arch-img.b4k.co/v/1585663489653.webm

This is what all the little boys who played FFVII 23 years ago myself included truly fantasized about, a very macho scene where Sephiroth literally tries to molest Cloud Strife. Rest assured this scene is totally intended for all the chauvinist manly men out there and totally wasn't written nor suggested by a horny fujo at Square, and DEFINITELY not written with a female audience in mind.

 

[SharkLord]

I hope its real, I just want Adol to arrive in Smash with his bangers like this

To be fair it's not like his chances hinge on the leak. Though, there is the question of if he can get in over a Trails character. Trails seems to be the more popular of the two, but Ys wins out in the legacy department. There's also the fact that Adol, Estelle, and Rean have all been shown favoritism by the head of Falcom (I think); Estelle being his favorite character to write for, Adol being his first pick for Smash, and Rean as a backup because he can't picture how Adol would play. I want Adol the most, but I'm not sure who would actually get the spot. Either way, we should be able to get some good Falcom tunes out of it.

 

[Nekoo]

Can we please not talk about this?
Assume what you want, when all they probably wanted was to do a cool looking final battle attack.

Nothing about toxic Male power fantasy, or stupid fujo dreams.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Okay the whole boy/girl sexualization thing isnt really suited for here.

Besides you're all horny anywho. And none of you hide it very well.

Sinners, all of you!!!

 

[Deleted member]

Does anyone want to know a fun fact?

This is character weight.

Yep.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

Wait, was there an actual discussion about Yuri not being added because of Sephiroth? I brought it up last night, but I was just goofing.

I don't think so, I just remember someone bringing it up. It was probably just your joke that I didn't register as a joke.

 

[Eldrake]

Does anyone want to know a fun fact?

This is character weight.

Yep.

Maybe Smash Sephiroth is actually a ghost.

 

[Oracle Link]

Okay the whole boy/girl sexualization thing isnt really suited for here.

Besides you're all horny anywho. And none of you hide it very well.

Sinners, all of you!!!

i mean its sorta in the nature of humans to be horny + Animated Characters are Designed to look better than humans so yeah

 

[Momentary]

I cant wait for shirtless Dante and shirtless Sephiroth to face off in Smash 6

 

[ALongWistfulSquiggle]

I don't think so, I just remember someone bringing it up. It was probably just your joke that I didn't register as a joke.

Gotcha. I do have a very dry sense of humor, so I don't blame you for not picking that up.

 

[Deleted member]

Monster Hunter is the most likeliest Capcom representative to me. Dante has some solid merit too. Don't underestimate Phoenix Wright. He's been making a comeback, and he is quite close with Nintendo, so he has some merit.

 

[Momentary]

What do you mean by...comeback?

 

[osby]

As cool as Chun Li is, I can't say I wouldn't prefer a new Capcom series over her.

That being said, she's ****ing Chun Li and I'd be too busy laughing about how we got two anime Chinese girls in the same pass to be offended, anyway.

 

[RouffWestie]

We shall not talk... About that. Compared to this movie, Advent Children is an Award Winning masterpiece.

Only thing I remember about this movie is seeing a boom mic in one of the scenes.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

What do you mean by...comeback?

I think the Capcom leak has gone on to reveal Ace Attorney 7 being in development.

Now I await for Darkstalkers 4 and Okami 2...

 

[Deleted member]

What do you mean by...comeback?

Phoenix Wright's games are on the Switch, and I just feel a comeback is happening.

 

[3BitSaurus]

Okay the whole boy/girl sexualization thing isnt really suited for here.

Besides you're all horny anywho. And none of you hide it very well.

Sinners, all of you!!!

...Who said any of us were trying to hide it?

I mean, there's more than one reason people here are memeing Sephiroth more than other picks, just saying.