He's been scoring higher on multiple fan pos like the sourcegaming one pointed out above, the twitter campaign is the most followed smash campaign with over 5000 followers (people can say what they want about twitter but it has way more active users than this site) he's been showing up in youtube videos for people's most wanted more and more.
You can be smug all ya want calling it "basic history" and what not but you're still wrong
Considering that you somehow think Rayman is not less likely now than in Smash 4 and that characters are not affected by time at all, I think you are a lost cause at this point. This is gonna be my last post replying to you.
Congratulations, his twitter campaign has a few followers, so what. I could make an argument that fan demand does not matter as much for dlc right now anyway. Considering only 1 out of our 7 dlc characters we can say for sure came from the ballot, I think that is safe to say. The fact of the matter still stands. Rayman had way more going for him in 2015 than he does now. The franchise is dead right now. His franchise bombed in Japan. If there ever was a time he could overcome it, maybe it would be
gasp when a relatively new game that was talked about a lot pre wii u launch came out! But oh wait he did not get in.
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clap matter. If YT wishlists mattered for DLC, our DLC lineup would be way different both for Smash 4 and for this game. Just because nutterbutterfan73 wants Rayman does not mean he is getting in. All that means is, surprise, Rayman is wanted by some people.
I have said this countless times on this site and I will say it again, fan demand is not an end all be all, especially for DLC. Just because a character is reasonably popular does not mean they are going to be super likely. You need evidence to support the argument of Rayman getting in smash.
Let me see what evidence you have suggested...
-He is popular, youtubers and twitter want him so hes popular, fan polls say he is popular
Ok, so you have no evidence outside of "popularity".
Now let me lay out every single piece of evidence that he is not likely.
-The Rayman Franchise is in a dormant state right now. Outside of phone runners, the last game he got was Legends. In 2013. Having your franchise stay dormant after its revival is not a good look.
-His franchise bombed hard in Japan. I know this might be hard for you to understand, but Smash tends to have a wee bit of a Japanese tilt. Wonder why /s. We only have two Western characters in Smash as of this writing. One of which has been requested since Melee in no small part due to Rare being very core to Nintendo's history and the other is from the literal biggest game of all time. If a Western character is going to get in, they have some big hurdles to get over compared to their Japanese counterparts. Keep in mind I am more of a Western character optimist compared to others on this form, but the hurdles can't be overstated.
-For Rayman, it seems that at least one party is apprehensive to making him playable for two games in a row. He was only a trophy in Smash 4 and a spirit in Ultimate. While Spirits do not deconfirm, it still ain't a great look going forward considering...
-We got Ubisoft Mii Costumes in January. I personally am championing Costume theory right now mainly because it has not been wrong up to this point. Getting costumes outside of your fighter pass from your company ain't a good sign.
Now, let's see if we can do some basic logic. The Rayman franchise has seen better days, bombed hard in Japan, is a western property, we got ubisoft mii costumes, at it seems at least one party is a bit resistant to including him on one hand. On the other hand, he is "popular". It would seem that, surprise, I have more evidence in my corner. I tend to be smug when I am arguing with people that are not only bad at arguing, but think that they are good at it. You offered zero evidence for your first claim that "oh characters do not miss the boat with smash games", then moved the goalpost when someone else called you out on it. In case you forgot, I will remind you of three examples, just three. Isaac in Brawl, Elma in Smash 4 DLC, Krystal in Brawl. Then you call me a liar when I say that Rayman's overall demand has remained steady from Smash 4 at best. In general, he is around the spot he was in terms of demand, at least in the west. While the numbers might have shifted more for him, the easier explanation is that we have smash on not the wii u.
Next time you try to debate me, maybe consider having an argument beyond just "he's popular". Then again, it might be easier for you to accept his deluxe Mii Brawler costume at some point this pass than accept that you are terrible at debating.
